hahah what a load of bullshyt coming out of this guys mouth
hes just drawing conclusions based on incomplete info with a strong anti india bias and absolute denial that jihadists exist in pakistan
its amazing how these jihadists kill you all the time but when they do / help do anything india automatically they dont exist
Riiiiight. Anyone that speaks against India and sheds light on Indian home grown Hindu terrorists is just b.s'ing. But anyone that praises India is totally balanced.
Your and your countrymen's double-standards and hypocracy never fails to amaze me.
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It already is pretty obvious that these are not hindu militants but islamic militants. Will be more obvious and internationally accepted in the coming days (if not enuff for you already).
Iam happy to find the ultra predictable Gupshup responses. RAW,Mossad,CIA,"who benefits",Hindu terrorists, blah, blah, blah.
In every major terrorist incident, some thread always traces back to Pakistan.If this attack does trace back to. Pakistani soil then there are only two bad outcomes.If the ISI knew or assisted you have a cause for war. If the ISI did not know, you have evidence of a failed state where private armies launch invasions. Pretty bad either way.
I leave you guys alone for a few months, but nothing seems to change!
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^^ It's hilarious isn't it how they start blaming RAW CIA and Mossad? Even after so much regular evidence of Pakistani involvemtn (again, groups based in pakistan not the paki govt itself) in plenty of islamic attacks all aroudn the world (INCLUDING PAKISTAN !!) they keep on dening this? and buying into 3rd grade controversy theories.
first towards solving a problem is acknowledging its existence isnt it ????
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But you show up just at the right times. Bravo. Please update your calendar for the next visit. We're delighted to have you here.
Anyways...
Pakistan is fighting its extremists within its borders and cleansing the territory while India is oh-so-busy sponsoring terrorist organization in Pakistan like TTP, BLA and other pockets of resistance. RAW has already gone rogue. The extremist a.k.a. Butcher of Gujrat Modi becomes CM yet again. claps
Pakistan is working hard to eliminate any remaining extremists elements inside the nation, while its' neighbor has adopted the 'reward the extreme, assassinate the honest'. Lieutenant-Colonel Prasad Purohit has been put up for nomination by BJP (a ultra-fundamentalist party) for the coming elections. Good job India. **In*credible India indeed!
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i think, we are wasting our energies here, all this conversation means nothing to decision makers sitting in Pakistan or India.
Pakistan is already busy in 2 fronts, fighting terrorists in Baluchistan & NWFP. western powers wouldn't wanna see, if Pakistan withdraw forces from there.
India: Elections are around the corner, BJP & other parties looking for scandals to topple current govt or get an edge to win the elections!
Conclusion: Media on the both sides will blame each other, Politicians on both ends will fight on the TV like cats & dogs, common man will light up candles for few days and will carry on with life.
So everyone in this thread, whether a Pakistani or an Indian, take a chill pill..relax and listen to some good music.
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^Right on! That's what everyone says but our Indians neighbors don't wanna hear that. God forbid anyone should remind them of their own realities. They'd rather sound like a broken record beating the same old drum over and over again despite knowing what a ultra-fundamentalist party BJP is.
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you have evidence of a failed state where private armies launch invasions.
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Unfortunately, it was Americans who supported such private armies to launch invasions against Soviets.
Wherever you look in the world's trouble spots, America's dirty hands are visible.
How about Pakistan send their own investigation team, and India give full access to this “Akmal” and support to OUR investigation team. After all India claims he is Pakistani, hence it’s Pakistan’s right to conduct it’s own investigation and “AKMAL” is a key clue, let a Pakistani team interogate him. Indians suffered enough during last 4 days, and they should support any attempt to get to the bottom of it. (they got nothing to hide, and their stand is “it’s the Paki Jahadists, not the Government of PAkistan”) Let Pakistani government get to them then.
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It is so pathetic that Indians are blaming Pakistan for something that is counter productive and doesn't serve any strategic objectives for Pakistan. Are Indians really that dumb that they can't see it? Can anyone tell us why Pakistan would go for such a silly intimidation when the country is surrounded by countless issues, terrorism being one of them?
Ohioguy I think you been missing from this place then you are not been reading news either. I give you something to read, then you may not have to say ultra predictable gupshup responses. Its not only Hindu blah blah blah…read from australian link you may believe them more then pakistani link:
Blasts linked to Hindu terroristsFont Size: Decrease Increase Print Page: Print Bruce Loudon, South Asia correspondent | November 15, 2008
Article from: The Australian
AN extensive “Hindu terror” network was under investigation by police in India yesterday over some of the country’s most devastating terrorist bomb outrages, challenging the longstanding belief that militants manipulated by Pakistan’s ISI spy agency are always to blame.
A senior army officer arrested for alleged involvement in the network was being questioned about a series of blasts including last year’s bombing of the Samjhauta Express - the so-called “Freedom Train” that links India and Pakistan - in which 68 people, mostly Muslims, were killed.
A series of arrests following the discovery of the Hindu terror plot is seen as acutely embarrassing for the Government led by Manmohan Singh, as well as for the opposition Hindu nationalist Bharatiya Janata Party, ahead of a general election next year.
The Government has been claiming that bomb blasts are invariably the work of jihadists linked to the ISI. At the same time, the BJP, which believes it can surf back into office at the election on the back of what it claims is its strong anti-terrorist policy, is having its credentials questioned because of reported links with some of the alleged Hindu extremist conspirators who have been arrested.
The discovery of the terror network follows months of bewilderment over the failure of police to arrest anyone over the bombing campaign, which has targeted virtually every major city across India.
The investigation by the Anti-Terrorist Squad of the state of Maharashtra revealed that “Hindu terror”, not “Muslim terror”, was behind September’s bomb blasts in Malegaon, near Mumbai, in which four people were killed and dozens more injured.
That led to the arrest of a lieutenant-colonel as well as a retired major in the Indian army, an institution that has, until now, been regarded as a bulwark against communalism.
Defence Minister AKAnthony has expressed dismay over the arrests, describing them as “a matter of serious concern”.
“We are very determined to get to the root of the whole thing,” he said.
Also arrested over the Malegaon blasts was a well-known Hindu nun with close links to theBJP and other right-wing organisations.
Following the arrests, other bomb blasts that have occurred in India recently are being held up to scrutiny to see whether they, too, may have been caused by Hindu terrorists .
The attack on the Friendship Express train is under the microscope. So, too, is the anti-Christian violence that has been sweeping the state of Orissa.
You said what exactly I was thinking, if anyone wants to stop this bloody terrorism then why hide. I wish there could be a treaty where teams from accused countries can investigate as well. Also afterall in any criminal activity there is a lawer available to the criminal . Then why not bring him to public, regardless of he is Indian, Pakistani, Uk national, these maniacs need to be taught lesson. I totally agree with you, let Pakistan investigate along with indians and truth can come out if he is really a pakistani with Rakhee on his hand, or he is Hindu with Rakhee.
guy has a past, and i dont think he is credible enough that we can even give him a listening.
crap is cull crap whether from here or there that is what we are speaking against.
It already is pretty obvious that these are not hindu militants but islamic militants. Will be more obvious and internationally accepted in the coming days (if not enuff for you already).
In every major terrorist incident, some thread always traces back to Pakistan.If this attack does trace back to. Pakistani soil then there are only two bad outcomes.If the ISI knew or assisted you have a cause for war. If the ISI did not know, you have evidence of a failed state where private armies launch invasions. Pretty bad either way.
if we go with this logic, isn't Oklahoma City Bombing or july 7th london blasts a proof of failure estates? coz in each case authorities failed to control their own nationals.
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Kasab was quoted as saying that once their training was complete his team of four travelled to the garrison town of Rawalpindi, where they were joined by another six terrorists, who had been trained at **other camps close **by
LOL, when i went to Mangla Dam we were not allowed to even have a camera with us and these people were given 'Commando training' of beach landing etc .BTW i never saw any beach sort of thing there. Oh yes i saw Pakistan Navy submarine Saad and Hamza there and also some gunship boats in the dam for guarding this 'camp' ! :)
And have they shifted camps from AZK to Rawalpindi. Oh yes i remeber , i have seen one camp in Raja Bazar and its chief instructor was Shiekh Rasheed with anti-air craft guns and missiles training giving to these people :)
And have they shifted camps from AZK to Rawalpindi. Oh yes i remeber , i have seen one camp in Raja Bazar and its chief instructor was Shiekh Rasheed with anti-air craft guns and missiles training giving to these people :)
LOL... that would be scene Sheikh Rasheed on an anti aircraft gun...
by the way his mouth is no less than an atomic bomb...
2) The US has dirty hands from using the Taliban to oust the Russians.
I have been here long enough to watch guys franticly Googling "Christian Terror" in hopes of finding some obscure example of Christian terror so the guy could say, "see it's not just us!"
The fact is that Pakistan is being held to together by the army and a thin thread of civilization. Your former President took control in a coup, your current President had his wife assasinated. Large hotels are bombed in your capital city, and there are huge areas of the country that are beyond Federal control.
The reason Hindus (and most of the rest of the world) have no trouble believing that Pakistan was involved to some degree is that event after event traces back to Radical Islam fostered and nurtured in Pakistan. You are the epicenter.
There is a sizable minority in Pakistan that would make Pakistan the world training ground for Radical Islam. Meanwhile the rest of the world (the IMF) is desperately trying to hold together the economy of Pakistan, and avoid a catastophic melt down of civil society. I thouroughly believe that these terrorists were recruited trained and funded in Pakistan. It is entirely plausible, and very probable. On a day when 60% of the voters in Kashmir turned out to vote on their future parliament, radicals almost certainly would like to drive a wedge between India and Pakistan in hopes of turning back progress that would have seen a resolution in Kashmir.
I am thankful every day for the stability provided by the Pak army. I am convinced they are the only thing standing between todays Pakistan and tomorrows Somalia-like Pakistan. This attack is further proof to me that the Pak central government is losing contol of an ever larger portion of the population.
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Why are you all falling over yourselves to defend Hindu radicals? Or do you think it's okay for others to be radicals, but should it be someone who has a muslim name, it's a threat to world all of a sudden?
Why the double-standards? Condemn them all, or justify them all. Why the selective reasoning?
