Teachings of Mujaddiths who follow Haneefi Madhab

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So how exactly is that an innovation?
Which Imam said that you have to follow only one madhab?
If we know that something was done by the Prophet, salAllahualaihiwasallam, then practising it is following your desires?

Imam Ahmad bin Hanbal said :
“Do not follow my opinion; neither follow the opinion of Maalik, nor Shaafi’i, nor Awzaa’i, nor Thawri, but take from where they took.” [Ibn al-Qayyim in I’laam (2/302)]

There are similar sayings from the other Imams.

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Ok fine, it was a typo error regarding Abu Hanifa, I am sorry. I would surely strive against someone who is innovating matters into Islam and particular into Aqeedah of Islam (Yes your right just because our call is towards the truth, we are called as haters from the horses mouth). Rest is left to whatt you think about me, Allaah knows the best anyways.
Jazakallaah.

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Imam Abu Hanifa said if there is a stronger opinion than his, then they should follow that opinion. BUT he said it to his students not to us. His students were mujtahids and WE are NOT mujtahids. That is what you salafis try to do and say that we are mujtahids.

mujtahid: "scholar who can deduce rulings directly from the primary textual evidence " - from a salafi

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So, let me get this straight then. You are saying that the students of Imam Abu Hanifa are the only mujtahids, and there will be no more after them?
Or if there are mujtahids today, then the salafi scholars are not mujtahids?
Could you clarify this.

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All I am saying is mujtahids are all those who were present in the times of the Imams. The students of the Imams.

Were you alive in the times of Abu Hanifa or any other Imam? No, so who are you to make a judgement?!

the Mujtahids I am relating too

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So, there can be no more mujtahids ever again (from the interpretation of Imam Abu Hanifa's saying)? ie. The words of Imam Abu Hanifa and his students are written in stone.
Please clarify this again.

By the way, I didn't say that I am able to extract rulings from the Quran and Hadeeth. Because I can't, that's why we have scholars. If we all could extract rulings then there would be no need for scholars.

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Get me documented proof of Abu Hanifa written by Abu Hanifa himself.Answer this question.

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A layman cannot be a mujtahid.

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O wasim bhai, I guess you have not yet been through that text, don't worry you will in your salafiya venture.

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but if anyone puts efforts to educate himself enough then can he be a mujtahid?

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Give me an answer, please. I am asking for an answer please Give me the name of the book.

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What are the scholars for?

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o bhai.... just answer the question.

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I just did bhai, didn't the scholars get educated?

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Please answer this question. An innovator like me wants to know. Please dont delay it anymore.

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Captain bhai, refer to this post I got form askimam.org,

Indeed obedience in its true sense belongs only to Allah which is the requirement of Tauheed. Even the obedience of the Prophet (S.A.W.) has only been prescribed for us because of him being the messenger of Allah conveying the divine commandments to us. It is therefore required of us that we follow the Quran, being the direct commandment of Allah and the Sunnah being the indirect form of commandments. But the interpretation of the Quran and Sunnah require an intensive and extensive study which is not an easy job and cannot be undertaken by every layman. It will be virtually impossible for him to consult the Quran and Sunnah in each and every problem arising before him due to his lack of knowledge with regards to the relevant material required for inferring the rules of Shariah from the Quran and Sunnah. The only solution to this problem is that a group of people should acquire this knowledge and others should consult them in their day to day affaires as the Almighty Allah mentions in the Holy Quran: ?And the believers should not proceed all together. So, why does a party from each faction among them not proceed, so that they may acquire sound understanding on Deen, and so that they may admonish their people when they return to them, so that they may take precaution?? (Surah Taubah, Verse 122) Now if a person asks an authentic Aalim regarding a specific ruling of the Shari?ah, it would not be said that he has taken that particular Aalim to be the subject of his obedience; rather, being ignorant of the commandments of Allah and his Messenger (S.A.W.), he has consulted that Aalim in order to know what is required of him to do to carry out the commandments of Allah. This is what Taqleed means. The qualified Muslim jurists or Imams have thoroughly studied the Quran and Sunnah and devoted their lives for this very purpose. They collected the rules of Shari?ah according to their respective interpretations of the Shariah. This collection is called the Math-hab of that jurist. Thus the Math-hab of an Imam is nothing different to the Shariah; in fact it is the interpretation of Shari?ah and a collection of the rules of Shariah arranged in subject form for convenience sake. Therefore following a Math-hab of a particular Imam or jurist is in actual fact following the Shari?ah through the interpretation of an authentic jurist who he believes to be the most knowledgeable in the matters of Shariah. As for the differences of the Mathaahib (Math-habs), it has emerged through the different possible interpretations of the rules inferred from the Quran and Sunnah. The cause of this difference can be when either of the following situations arises: 1. The expression used in the two Holy sources, Quran and Sunnah, may permit more than one interpretation and jurists may differ in interpreting that expression. One jurist, after making adequate research would prefer one interpretation while the other jurists may prefer the other interpretation. 2. Sometimes two traditions of the Prophet (S.A.W.) seem to contradict apparently. In this case also the jurists, after reconciling these traditions prefer some over the others and this may also lead to the viewpoints of the jurists differing. 3. There are some issues that are not mentioned in the Quran and Sunnah. The solution to this problem is sought through Qiyaas (analogy) or some kind of expression found in the Quran or Sunnah that indirectly refers to that particular issue. Here also the jurist may differ in their approaches to inferring the correct solution from the Quran and Sunnah. In the abovementioned situation, a jurist who has the necessary qualifications of Ijtihaad (Independent judgment in a legal or a theological question based on the interpretation and application of the four Sources) will be discharging his duty by exerting the best of his efforts to discover the actual intention of the Quran and Sunnah. Another jurist may disagree with his interpretation but he can never accuse him of violating the Shari?ah nor can he accuse the followers of that particular Imam to be following something other than Shari?ah. There are four Math-habs which are well arranged and well preserved till today and are taken to be the most reliable in the interpretation of the Shariah. These are Hanafi, Shafii, Maliki and Hanbali. By following one of these Math-habs in the matters of interpretation of the Shariah, one will be discharging his obligation of following the Shariah. (Contemporary Fataawaa, Page 215-220) One question that arises here is that why one is obliged to follow only one of the four Math-habs when all of them are correct? The answer to this question is that if people are left free to follow any Math-hab at given moment and situation then this will undoubtedly lead to people making their desires subject of obedience which is Haraam as mentioned in the Holy Quran: Did thou see him, who took his vile desires for his deity, and in spite of all the comprehension, Allah misguided him and sealed off his ear and his heart, and set a veil over his eye? Now After Allah, who will guide him? Will you then not take heed?? (Surah Jaathiyah, Verse 23) Have thou seen that person who took his lust for his deity? So, will thou stand surety for him?? (Surah Furqaan, Verse 43) If one faces a situation that is in his favour then he follow one Math-hab and if another situation arises that is going against him then he will switch his Math-hab and follow a different one as it suits him. In this way Deen will become a mock. Therefore it will be necessary to choose one Math-hab and follow the commandments of Shari?ah as interpreted by the Imam of that Math-hab.

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so you agree that if someone conducts study and becomes learned he can become a mujtahid. Thanks.

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What, you still didn't find it on Allahuakbar.com ??

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so basically it all boils down to
salafi scholars are not mujtahids and only mujtahids have the ability to make changes to fiqh

so, can you name a few recent mujtahids of our time because i would like to see what were the changes to fiqh made by these scholars?

by the way, salafi scholars of today rarely issue any new rulings
they basically reiterate the rulings made by previous scholars

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Who said changes to fiqh?