Teachings of Mujaddiths who follow Haneefi Madhab

[yo_wasim]

Below are the expostions of Great Mujaddiths, who follow Haneefi Madhab.
They are from Deobandis and Tableegh Jamath.

Delaying prayer once will cause a person to burn in the hellfire for 20.88 million years, just because he or she failed to pray on exact time. (Maulana Zakaria Kandhalwi, Fazaael Namaz, p.317)

Recite the whole Qur’n in one rakaah like saints did! [That will amount to more than 50 times of the whole Qur’n in a single day!] (Fazaael Namaz p.64.) Saints recite 2,000 rakaahs every day. They keep standing the full one month of Ramadhan reciting the Qur’n twice a day! (Tableegh-I-Nisab Fazaael Aamal)

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Maulana Ashraf Ali Thanwi separated the way of Salat between men and women in his book Bahishti Zever. (Masjid Tauheed, Karachi . Muhammad Sultan)

The Prophet laid the foundation of Darul-Uloom, Deoband , India (in the 19th century) He comes to check accounts of the school. He has learnt the Urdu language. (Mubasshirat-e-Darul Uloom, and Deoband Number of the Darul-Uloom)

Disrespect to a monk is more perilous than disrespect to Allaah. (Mulla Ashraf Ali Thanwi, Al-Ashraf, p.23, Nov. 1991)

Allaah cuts jokes with the Ulama of Deoband. One of them went to a well for Wudu (Ablution) He lowered the bucket in the well. It came back full of silver. The Holy man said to Allaah: Dont kid around! I am getting late for prayers. He lowered the bucket in again and this time it came back full of gold. (Risala Tazkara of Darul-uloom Deoband of April 1965)

Say “Fazabooha” before you cut a melon, or any thing else (for that matter), you will find it sweet. (Aamale-Qurani, Ashraf Ali Thanwi)

Recite the verse "When the heaven will split. Write it (on a piece of paper) and tie to the left thigh of any woman in labor, child birth will become easy. Cut the hair of that woman and burn them between her thighs, childbirth will be easier still. (Aamal-e-Qurani, Ashraf Ali Thanwi)

[AllahkaBanda]

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Brother, please don't continue on this. There's no way they'll understand. I want to stop discussing this matter because there's no point of it except it leads to differences, plus mashAllah no one wants to accept the truth. But for some reason brother cricketplya is so much into it. Seems like this is the only reason he joined this forum.

[Sadiyah]

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yo_wasim, are you for real?

Could you please provide references from Quran and ahadith to the teachings you've posted above?

[AllahkaBanda]

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@Sadiyah

yo_wasim, are you for real?

Could you please provide references from Quran and ahadith to the teachings you've posted above?

you misunderstood what he's trying to say. The statements he posted are from deouband scholars and yet they claim they follow the true teachings of Prophet(SAW). I don't understand though how?

[yo_wasim]

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@Sadiyah

yo_wasim, are you for real?

Could you please provide references from Quran and ahadith to the teachings you've posted above?

Shall, I provide you with some more of there teachings. Believe me, if Sahabas were present, they would have subjugated these individuals.

[AllahkaBanda]

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@yo_wasim

Shall, I provide you with some more of there teachings. Believe me, if Sahabas were present, they would have subjugated these individuals.

I agree with you! Don't worry, sister just misunderstood what you said. Where's our brother circketplay, can't find him here?

[Sadiyah]

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I apologize. I misunderstood.

[AllahkaBanda]

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i don't think our brother, cricketplaya, mashAllah, bothered reading this.

[Captain1]

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@yo_wasim

Below are the expostions of Great Mujaddiths, who follow Haneefi Madhab. They are from Deobandis and Tableegh Jamath.

In case you didn't know Tableeghi Jamat is not really "replaceable" by Deobandis, so their teachings should not be considered as "Deobandi" teachings. Thought I clarify this confusion.

[cricketplaya]

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LOL Wasim bhai , why do you imitate the kufar by copy pasting irrelevant stuff and you know it! Cite the source! Fazaail is your source for many of the content you posted and all the rest is indo-pak.. Post from the true scholars of Hanafi madhab from the Arab world and from the rest of the world. Do not spread this propaganda. I can say the same thing: Salafis believe Allah rests on his throne..etc But I don't want to because I know it is wrong! So please bro, keep it up.

[Sadiyah]

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cricketplaya, are you trying to suggest that the quotes stated above are inaccurate and are not found in the Fazaail set of books, or that Fazaail set of books aren't (or shouldn't be) the source of learning deen?

[yo_wasim]

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@Captain1

In case you didn't know Tableeghi Jamat is not really "replaceable" by Deobandis, so their teachings should not be considered as "Deobandi" teachings. Thought I clarify this confusion.

Captain1, you need a serious brush up into the history ot TJ. They are nothing but a dawah organ of Deobandis, to be precise a subsidiary.

Mohammed Ilyas founder of TJ wasex-deobandi. He was an ardent fan of Ashraf Ali Thanvi, who was a Deobandi.
The time TJ was formed Mohammed Ilyas praised Ashraf Ali thanvi.

[yo_wasim]

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@cricketplaya

LOL Wasim bhai , why do you imitate the kufar by copy pasting irrelevant stuff and you know it! Cite the source! Fazaail is your source for many of the content you posted and all the rest is indo-pak.. Post from the true scholars of Hanafi madhab from the Arab world and from the rest of the world. Do not spread this propaganda. I can say the same thing: **Salafis believe Allah rests on his throne..**etc But I don’t want to because I know it is wrong! So please bro, keep it up.

This might be irrelevant for you but its relevant for millions living in India. They mass is being deviated. Btw, be thankful i havent posted some more of there saying for which religious guppies will be zapped.

Tell which Muslim countries follow Hanafi madhab. Not enough they have innovated matters into Prophet’s :saw: tradition. They have slandered Abu Hanifa.
These are the books who have passed fatwa in Indo-Pak the are considered top most scholars.
I dont wanna go deep into this topic because you wont have answers to this.
The keywords, above can you please provide me with proof again.

[Sharaabi]

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@Captain1

In case you didn't know Tableeghi Jamat is not really "replaceable" by Deobandis, so their teachings should not be considered as "Deobandi" teachings. Thought I clarify this confusion.

Tableeghi Jamaat is very much the Dawaah arm of the Deobandis.

There's actually a statement, stating the above, passed by one of the head honchos of Deoband ( Ashraf ali thanvi, i believe).

[Captain1]

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@Sharaabi

Tableeghi Jamaat is very much the Dawaah arm of the Deobandis.

There's actually a statement, stating the above, passed by one of the head honchos of Deoband ( Ashraf ali thanvi, i believe).

I am not aware of such statement, anyhow only Debandis join the TJ so it could very well be perceived as the dawah arm of Deobandis. The weaknesses in TJ's nisaab were exposed by some to an scholar and he sorta approved saying that it was okay to use weak ahadith for 'dawa' purposes alone, to encourage people for doing good deeds.... I found that to be incorrect/unbelieveable. Anyway, to Allah shall we return and He knows the best.

[Sadiyah]

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@Captain1

I am not aware of such statement, anyhow only Debandis join the TJ so it could very well be perceived as the dawah arm of Deobandis. The weaknesses in TJ's nisaab were exposed by some to an scholar and he sorta approved saying that it was okay to use weak ahadith for 'dawa' purposes alone, to encourage people for doing good deeds.... I found that to be incorrect/unbelieveable. Anyway, to Allah shall we return and He knows the best.

I've had a similar experience. I'm friends with a number of TJs and I've discussed a few things with one of them. He presented me with the same explanation that it's okay to use weak ahadith for the sake of dawah. In addition, he said there might be some truth to it, so they cannot rule it out.

Just like you I had a hard time believing. I left it at that.

[Sharaabi]

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^ yeaa they say, its okay to use weak ahadeeth, as long as they hadeeth dont contain any ahkaam, as long as its just fazail that they contain its perfectly fine to narrate weak hadith.

There are a few conditions under which its is arite to narrate weak hadith, but the TJs ignore all the rules.

1. Weakness should only be slight.
2. The weak hadith should not contain any ahkaam or any new principles.
3. It should be mentioned that the narrated hadith is a weak hadith (something the TJs NEVER do)

For the first condition to be met, it would take nothing less than a scholar...to figure out the how weak or how strong the hadith is. Hence there reading of the Fazail is totally wrong.

[cricketplaya]

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O Brothers, why are you slandering the TJs? They are the ones that go out of there ways and give dawah!

TJs not only consist of Indo-Pak people but people from all over the world are in this movement. May Allah give them many rewards. They travel the whole globe to give dawah, what do we do? Before slandering and spreading the propaganda look at what they have acheived. Yes there might be some of them (in India as you mentioned) that have created bidas but that doesn't mean the whole group has to be blamed for.

[system]

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@cricketplaya

O Brothers, why are you slandering the TJs? They are the ones that go out of there ways and give dawah!

TJs not only consist of Indo-Pak people but people from all over the world are in this movement. May Allah give them many rewards. They travel the whole globe to give dawah, what do we do? Before slandering and spreading the propaganda look at what they have acheived. Yes there might be some of them (in India as you mentioned) that have created bidas but that doesn't mean the whole group has to be blamed for.

I've heard from different sources that TJ is the only Islamic group allowed to preach in Israel, is that true?
Anyone have any idea about this?

[cricketplaya]

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@sherafghan

I've heard from different sources that TJ is the only Islamic group allowed to preach in Israel, is that true? Anyone have any idea about this?

If it were true Yahudis and Zionists would be reverting like crazy