Re: Teachings of Mujaddiths who follow Haneefi Madhab
wow, placing quotes from obscure sources out of context. I don't think any Wahhabi would want to play this game. Let's just agree to disagree and make like friends umm kay?
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See, i wouldn't wanna be a part of this Salafi - Deobandi war.
Salafis graduating from Saudi Universities, have enough faults in their own aqeedah and manhaj, and the should work on themselves first before they start pointing fingers at anyone else.
Iam not saying Deobandies dont have any issues, they do...but you just cant group everyone in the same basket. It was the Deobandi's who produced the Taliban, the group who revived the Sunnah of the Prophet and the Khulafa e Rashideen, and their mentor Maulana Nizamuddin Shamzai, a person who spoke nothing but the truth...and he was one of those who followed the middle path.
As far as TJs are concerned, they have some issues and they have good points too. They are definetly not from the deviant sects, and Sheikh Uthaymeen has actually given a fatwa on one instance and said that one is allowed to go out with the TJs. So to attack them so blatantly, is just not right.
Majority of the issues, are more scholarly...and should be sorted out amongst scholars through talks and discussions. Giving out such hi-octane speeches to people who have no clue about what's happening only raises confusion.
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Salafis graduating from Saudi Universities, have enough faults in their own aqeedah and manhaj, and the should work on themselves first before they start pointing fingers at anyone else.
Iam not saying Deobandies dont have any issues, they do...but you just cant group everyone in the same basket. It was the Deobandi's who produced the Taliban, the group who revived the Sunnah of the Prophet and the Khulafa e Rashideen, and their mentor Maulana Nizamuddin Shamzai, a person who spoke nothing but the truth...and he was one of those who followed the middle path.
As far as TJs are concerned, they have some issues and they have good points too. They are definetly not from the deviant sects, and Sheikh Uthaymeen has actually given a fatwa on one instance and said that one is allowed to go out with the TJs. So to attack them so blatantly, is just not right.
Majority of the issues, are more scholarly...and should be sorted out amongst scholars through talks and discussions. Giving out such hi-octane speeches to people who have no clue about what's happening only raises confusion.
Sorry I have edited my post, I thought it was personal.
Btw can you explain to me what is correct Aqeedah, i feel that would be better, in terms of Islam
Second thing I havent got any one who can argue about the comments of this Hanafi Scholars. Can you please prove me wrong.
The fact is that these scholars, have followed there own whims and fancies. They are very few people in this world who follow Hanafi Madhab strictly in terms of Aqidah of Abu Hanifa forget about faqih rulings.
Masallam
Allaah knows the best.
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Is Taliban correct? I only acclaim Tablighi Jamaaat from Deobandis.
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Brother, can you paste something which is part of large followers of Abu Hanifa? What of their practices is wrong? What you posted in first post is mainly of Fazail A'maal book which is not an 'aqeeda' book or which is not part of Aqaid of Abu Hanifa followers. I haven't heard any scholar in Friday sermon that if you delay your prayer(s) you will burn in hell for xx.xx million years. Neither we are told to believe this:
"The Prophet laid the foundation of Darul-Uloom, Deoband , India (in the 19th century) He comes to check accounts of the school. He has learnt the Urdu language. (Mubasshirat-e-Darul Uloom, and Deoband Number of the Darul-Uloom)"
as part of our aqeedah as Abu Hanifa followers, we infact are taught that Prophet PBUH is not in this world and does not hear you from every place in earth so this above peace you posted is rather silly of someone and not an aqeeda of all.
Rest of what you posted are also not promoted as "aqaaid" of Abu Hanifa followers. I have read most of Q & A from Moulana Ludhyanwi and have many "aqaaid" books but never came across what you posted as 'aqaaid'.
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Rest of what you posted are also not promoted as "aqaaid" of Abu Hanifa followers. I have read most of Q & A from Moulana Ludhyanwi and have many "aqaaid" books but never came across what you posted as 'aqaaid'.
Captain1 bhai, some people think that there were 4 Imams who had Bralvi beliefs and then Deobandi formed later among them. I still have doubts regarding that.
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I don't know the exact history of whether Darul Uloom Deoband or Brelvi school came into existence first, but what I care about is the aqaaid/faith.
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Rest of what you posted are also not promoted as "aqaaid" of Abu Hanifa followers. I have read most of Q & A from Moulana Ludhyanwi and have many "aqaaid" books but never came across what you posted as 'aqaaid'.
Happy to know, that you have read all this aqaid books. I have asked for a proof to prove me wrong with the above statements. But you are shooting back at me.
Yes what, the one in bold if thats the part of you Aqeedah, please do a resarch on the website of who follow Hanafi Madhab. Do that. Here I am talking abou tthe scholars who have slander Abu Hanifa and not Abu Hanifa i respect this person, I have written this umpteen no. of times.
How many lectures have you sat, tell how many lectures. I am sorry when I was young this is the teaching I got from my teachers. You dont pray this will happen, you dont pray that will happen.
I have provided with a proof, why dont you prove me wrong. If you havent heard it in Friday sermons, that doent mean you are omnipresent right. You should listen to there lectures they are mindboggling.
I come from a family of Deobandis, though I am not influenced much.
Aqaaid, shall i talk about things written in Fazail E Amal, which i dont intend to do so.
I will write one of it Fazail E Amal is not a book of Aqeedah, great and this is the book they refer in the TJ.
I dont wont to argue anymore. Fact is even the teaching of Abu Hanifa are innovated.
Allaah knows the best.
You wanna argue next you can PM me.
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Few MP3s by Sheikh Makki Hijazi, professor in Makkah:
All are good but Minhaaj ul Muslim is related to discussions here He follows hanafi school of thought, you will like what he has to say unless you are a bidati kanjar then it maybe hard to swallow.
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This is what I am talking about Aqaaid or Aqeeda, here I am talking about creed,Ideology, thats the most Important.
If we had differed in ruling of jurispudence i would agree. But not in matter of Aqeedah, if you have lost that you have lost everything.
I have heard them talking about facts that Prophet Ibrahim is from Deen e Haneef, and eulogises that see how far is the connection of Abu Haneefa.
Just correct me if i am wrong is it not a matter of Aqeeda
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He is one Hanafi scholar, he is dam good. I have heard is Qasal Al Anbiya lectures.
Thats what I meant by Hanafi scholars with the right Aqeeda.
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Yeah, his new CD on women is also very good. I did not notice or come across any "extremism" or "fanatical" views from him.
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Can you show me something of this sort from lets say Moulana Ludhyanwi?
Also, what punishment (if any) you found in Hadith/Quran for delaying your prayer.
I see, first you say that you respect him now you are accusing him of innovator… so what HIS innovation?
Probably number of lectures more than your age. Now lets focus on the issue rather than questioning personnel.
The proof is not of all Deobandis or Abu Hanfia followers, rather a sepcific group i.e. TJs.
Yes, they use the book to encourage people to do good, I do not necessarily approve of them… did you not read the other thread?
bari meherbani ho gee. 
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Come on wasim, we all know and you very well know that your following an innovated sect. Full of bidas. So please look at your own problems and then point out fingers. Usual salafis are young bearded men arguing about deen. Idiots.
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Captain1 read my post, i have said this scholars innovate the teaching of Abu Hanifa.
They slander him, i said they innovate even the teaching of Abu Hanifa.
I am talking about those scholars who have opposed to Abu Hanifa. You are getting emotional btw please read it. I and calling Abu Hanifa an innovator no way.
Btw Captain1 i have given you the proof abut this scholars who are herectics, now get back to me if I am wrong.
I havent been persoanal infact you were eulogising your self. That i have been for so many Friday sermons right.
Get the above post Moulana Hijazi, I respect him because he follows the right Aqeeda i repeat again Aqeeda of Abu Hanifa, thats it. Forget that please go check out there own websites , especially who call themselves Hanifies.
Makki Hijazi, check out whats the Aqeedah of this gentleman.
By the way Captain1, i have nothing against them after all they are Muslims let them come towards the right path.
I am sorry if I have hate someone. Please do correct me if i am wrong and if you all feel I am a Muslim hater, and feels thats I am a superios Muslim please do correct me. After all I am a mortal, and bound to commit mistakes
Jazakallaah.
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I follow and innovated sect, thanks for a reminder. Allaah knows the best what is the truth and what is falsehood.
You increase my iman even more, First thing is you can cal me by any name i wont mind. But i will call you towards the truth, thats Quran and Sunnah.
Ameen.
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Atleast I don't follow my desires you like salafis do.. :)
i love reading your posts, they are jokes.
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i love reading your posts, they are jokes.
So, how exactly is it that salafis follow their desires?
I'd like to see a specific example.
You are saying that salafis are innovators, by that same argument I can also say that madhabs are innovations too. Just about every argument you have against salafis, can be applied to muqallids of madhabs too. I hope you see what I mean.
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You are saying that salafis are innovators, by that same argument I can also say that madhabs are innovations too. Just about every argument you have against salafis, can be applied to muqallids of madhabs too. I hope you see what I mean.
They take stuff to suit their needs. They don't follow a madhab but take from each madhab whatever they think is or has more weight of proof.
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Your words were incorrect then:
"Fact is even the teaching of Abu Hanifa are innovated. "
These words clearly mean that you are saying Abu Hanifa innovated in his teaching. You should've said that these scholars are innovating in name of Abu Hanifa.
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Btw Captain1 i have given you the proof abut this scholars who are herectics, now get back to me if I am wrong.
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Again, you are picking a specific group in followers of Abu Hanifa and blaming whole group for its beliefs. Try again.
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I am sorry if I have hate someone. Please do correct me if i am wrong and if you all feel I am a Muslim hater, and feels thats I am a superios Muslim please do correct me. After all I am a mortal, and bound to commit mistakes
Jazakallaah.
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Your words come out like you are haters of other sects of Muslims.