Finnally some good news. According to Jang newspaper Army is using SSG commandos and taliban have completly failed to stop army’s advance.
The army is scoring major successes:
Over 180 militants killed in Swat operation - GEO.tv
Military kills up to 200 militants in Swat: ISPR,5/10/2009 6:13:35 PM
DAWN.COM | Provinces | Security forces kill 25 militants in Mohmand skirmish
BBC NEWS | World | South Asia | Flight from Swat as curfew lifted
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One would expect them to make good progress. All the best to the army.
The number of militants killed has to taken with a pinch of salt. All militaries are known to exaggerate their success while minimizing their own losses. It is a part of propoganda. I wonder how they base their estimates of kills. Are these confirmed kills? I have read that during the Russian Afhan war, the Russians used to estimate their kills based on the number of ammunition fired according to a formula. At one briefing of Panjsher offensive, the breifing commander claimed that 150,000 insurgents had been killed while the remaining 130,000 ran away and took the bodies of those killed. The top general innocently asked how it is possible for 130,000 soldiers to carry 150,000 dead bodies.
The reality was that Ahmad Shah Masood was tipped of by his contacts in Russian military before the offensive began. He had withdrawn his forces and put up only some nominal resistance for a show. The legend of the lion of Panjsher valley was born.
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Knowing ISPR, they are definitely not confirmed kills.
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^^ No body can make MQM happy, if army moves and claims some success, u doubt that, if Taliban announces some, you buy that, so i think iam right to conclude that, anything which is positive, you doubt that or may be disappointed by anys success Army might have...
Anyway, do you have any source to counter the info... if not then keep your thinking to urself only!!!!
That's a good news that Army is making advances.
I also think that Taliban sympathizers anywhere should be considered traitors if they support Taliban in anway.
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It is do or die situation in Malakand, army have already taken the emerald mines ( the real motive of these so-called mujahideen to impose shariah), these thugs are on the run but surely we are losing our jawans too. but like some body said, Shaheed ka ju khoon hay, woh qom key hayat hay.
All praises for Pakistan Army.. who is fighting agents of Kufaar in North.
PS: I think if Pak-Army take control of the region in couple months time, the insurgency in Balochistan, will take a hit as well.. and it will lay a foundation for poltical reform in that part of Pakistan
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Army using SSG Commandos ? 
Is that confirmed ?
yeah..army used ssg commandoes in bunner..and they r using it in swat too…
It is do or die situation in Malakand, army have already taken the emerald mines ( the real motive of these so-called mujahideen to impose shariah), these thugs are on the run but surely we are losing our jawans too. but like some body said, Shaheed ka ju khoon hay, woh qom key hayat hay.
All praises for Pakistan Army.. who is fighting agents of Kufaar in North.
** PS: I think if Pak-Army take control of the region in couple months time, the insurgency in Balochistan, will take a hit as well.. and it will lay a foundation for poltical reform in that part of Pakistan**
that can be good news, is BLF linked with taliban? i thought they had the more separatist agenda.
y r u so shocked?
the ssg are our elite troops…of course we would use them
Knowing ISPR, they are definitely not confirmed kills.
Hahahah....why am i NOT surprised??? Maybe hoping hoping for taliban victory???
Good to see some progress and we need this to continue till we kill all the B******s.
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Pakistan needs to create a new force to deal with gureilla warfare
It cannot use its conventional army to fight this insurgency.....
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one concern I have, and it is a big possibility, that some or many extremist might be escaping in the guise of IDPs. I mean is there a way for anyone to know who among the civilians are or aren't extremists?
but thank god for the army and their sacrifices only they know what they're going through.
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From what I have heard, ground troops are reluctant to move in to the major talib held areas and are still in their bases lobbing artillery shells.
Pakistan needs to create a new force to deal with gureilla warfare
It cannot use its conventional army to fight this insurgency.....
Agreed. An interior force needs to be formed, akin to the SS, minus the ideological rubbish.
I like Iran's structure. They've split their armed forces evenly between interior guard (i.e. revolutionary guard), and the conventional military. It's a bit aggressive, but a side bonus of this kind of setup is that the two are balanced and will not interfere in politics.
Second, SOME lessons may be learned from Algeria. I'm hesitant to suggest this, as the Algerian security forces engaged in anti-terrorism (I say this as a physicist would...the Algerian army perpetrated acts that had all the characteristics of terrorism, for the sake of undermining the terrorists).
Third, antagonizing the ISI has got to stop. Without a functional intelligence wing, the war is lost before it has started. Whatever their grievances, it needs to be dealt with.
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That's why its not exactly safe to distribute the IDP's to major metropolitan cities...its like seeding a cancer out into the bloodstream! Keep the IDP's in camps with proper nutrition and as best living circumstances are possible...I know its a tough situation, but with poor intelligence what else could be done? Probelm is that the Pakistani gov't doesn't even know who is a citizen in their own country and who really isn't, because no one monitors this stuff properly.
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From what I have heard, ground troops are reluctant to move in to the major talib held areas and are still in their bases lobbing artillery shells.
yeah, that's where MQM comes in. Let's send the brave and fearless MQM members to take care of the rest of the talibans.
y r u so shocked?
the ssg are our elite troops....of course we would use them
Regardless of all the faux patriotic vitrol being spewed about, the fact is using a nation's conventional army on it's own citizen base, with the sane and sound understanding that civilians WILL die by the hands of the army in conventional operations, is and will always be controversial.
No matter what happens in developed countries, I see no circumstances in which their special forces would be deployed against their own citizenry. They may be recruited to train elite police personelle, but beyond that I remain doubtful.
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However, this is a civil war in some sense, so normal protocols of using the military probably do not apply.