Take the War to Pakistan- Karzai

Re: Take the War to Pakistan- Karzai

the people killing pakistanis are muslims?

drones are owned by taliban? american military is muslim? raymond davies is muslim? cia offices around pakistan are muslim? blackwater/xe are muslim?

the people killing and bombing afghanistan and pakistan are the coward americans the evidence is in front of your face. the problem started with the americans arriving and the problems will end when these evil dogs leave!

Re: Take the War to Pakistan- Karzai

http://www.dawn.com/2011/03/13/speculations-grow-about-operation-in-n-waziristan.html

Speculations grow about operation in N. Waziristan

PESHAWAR: The federal government has directed the Fata Disaster Management Authority to prepare a contingency plan for thousands of families likely to be uprooted after a military operation in North Waziristan Agency, an official told Dawn on Saturday.

The official said about 50,000 families (roughly 500,000 individuals) could be displaced from the agency, where speculations about the military operation against militants have been doing the rounds for quite some time.

The army has deployed over 20,000 troops, including two wings of the Frontier Corps, in the agency. The region is regarded as a bastion of Al Qaeda and Taliban.

“The FDMA has received directives from the federal authorities to chalk out a plan in consultation with the United Nations’ agencies and other humanitarian bodies to cope with the displacement,” he said.

Knowledgeable sources said the federal government had not set any timeframe for completion of the contingency plan, but the FDMA had been asked to keep the plan ready.

“We have been asked by the authorities to complete the task as soon as possible, but we have no idea about the timing of a military offensive,” the sources said.

The US government has been pressuring Islamabad, since the Times Square (New York) bomb plot in which a Pakistani national Faisal Shahzad was arrested in May last year, to launch an operation against militant groups, particularly the Haqqani network, to dislodge them from their redoubt in North Waziristan. The Tehrik-i-Taliban Pakistan (TTP) had claimed that it had masterminded the car bomb plot.

Islamabad, however, has stuck to the line that it alone would take a decision on the launch of an operation, citing lack of resources as the biggest handicap.

The FDMA, according to officials, had alerted the UN and its satellite organisations to the likelihood of a big displacement in the event of an operation, advising them to make provisions for shelter, food and other assistance.

They said that sites would be identified and selected for relief camps after consultations with the UN and other stakeholders.

According to official estimates, 50 per cent of the families feared to be displaced would take shelter in relief camps and the rest would settle with relatives and in rented houses.

Sources said camps were likely to be set up in neighbouring districts.

About financial resources, they said UN agencies had expressed willingness to foot the bill for tents, food, NFIs, water, sanitation and health. Officials said the average cost of a tent was 310 dollars.

The FDMA is already looking after 148,893 registered displaced families (over 1.1 million individuals) which had been displaced due to violence and subsequent military actions in the Federally Administered Tribal Area (Fata).

About 23,505 families have been living in camps and 125,388 other displaced families have been staying with their relatives.

A recent military action in Mohmand Agency caused the displacement of some 6,000 families. They were accommodated in two camps.

On the other hand, the IDPs displaced from Orakzai and South Waziristan agencies have started returning home.

Re: Take the War to Pakistan- Karzai

God damn it. That is a bad bad bad idea. More Pakistanis will die due to this.

Re: Take the War to Pakistan- Karzai

Keeping in view Karzai's comments and the chances of Pakistan's operation in NWA (against ISI's strategic assets) it seems that finally Pakistan has decided to help bail out the Americans from Afghanistan, and bring out the war fully into Pakistan.

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sigh You gotta be joking if that shocks you or you are short a few cans in a 6 pack.

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Wow. I hope that certainly does not happen. Destabilizing Pakistan would give the US every incentive to move in more troops and effectively take over the country like they have done so in Afghanistan. The military can not be that ****ing stupid.

Re: Take the War to Pakistan- Karzai

well lets see, the government and military needs to draw a line some where (we are allies!) otherwise they will keep on blackmailing us and we will keep on following them as mercenaries, resulting in destablization/destruction of the country! well i remember the american think tank reports which used to come out during late 90's that Pakistan will be dismembered and at that moment it used to look something impossible but now we have finally brought ourselves to a point where nothing is impossible. As far as American forces are concerned they will enter Pakistan, in one pretext or the other to help us in the war against terror cuz we are the only muslim nuclear power.

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Yeah I remember that report and that map. Literally all the countries that were near us were dismembered and made into smaller states which are economically unstable and politically not viable.

Lets see what happens.

Re: Take the War to Pakistan- Karzai

Well you do partake in conspiracy theories, and those people usually romanticize the taliban just like the neocons romanticize the times of the founding fathers.

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I remember a deal was reached with shiite tribes in parachinar so that taliban could move out of the area. We have to remember that NWA is not only filled with "good taliban" but also all sorts of groups. There needs to be a permanent danda stuck up taliban's ass to remind them who is their daddy.

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The Taliban WILL be back in Afghanistan. Karzai is nothing but a sad US puppet (see wikileaks episode). I don't know about TTP, their sources of funding or their agenda.

Re: Take the War to Pakistan- Karzai

Hey till a few weeks ago CIA operatives in Pakistan running amok was also a conspiracy theory. Turned out to be true. Remember this my young padawan. You don't need eyes to see you need vision.

Re: Take the War to Pakistan- Karzai

That is a bad outcome as they will be more bloodthirsty now.

Re: Take the War to Pakistan- Karzai

No, people know about Xe for a while, but what was and is still a conspiracy theory is that hindus jews and blackwater are the suicide bombers that blow up malls and mosques. This filth will still exist if CIA is booted out tomorrow, and they can be since they were allowed by the establishment in the first place.

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sigh Let me clarify:

CIA - Central Investigation Agency - Is not XE
Xe - Formerly known as black water is a private security firm and is not the CIA.

Raymond Davis was a special forces solider who worked for the CIA in Pakistan as a contractor.

Is that clear now? And we can move on to other issues.

Re: Take the War to Pakistan- Karzai

They both work for the US govt, don't they?

Anyway, yes lets move on to other issues...

Re: Take the War to Pakistan- Karzai

I'd day that send all the Afghani Refugees in Pakistan back to Afghanistan ....this is where they belong. Cut all the trades with Afghanistan (no doubt that we will also suffer financially) and let them be independent. Karzai phr sambhal ley apna mulk and we will take care of our war.

Pakistan is not like Afghanistan and Iraq we have a strong army and strong defence system and Americans know very well that if they dare of wage a war in Pakistan there is going to alot of blood shed and Americans will suffer equally. Not to forget these Americans are so afraid of nuclear weapons.

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What goes around comes around..

Re: Take the War to Pakistan- Karzai

Nope. The CIA is part of the Government infrastructure. They don't work for the government they are the government.

On to other issues, please point out where I have "partaken" in conspiracy theories.

The sad problem with you lot and the liberal ABCDs that think they are Pakistani is that you see anybody who has faith as a Taliban sympathizer. How very Republican of you.

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I can see here some people are still stupid enough to deny that who is funding Taliban of Pakistan man why are you afraid that now it is crystal clear that TTP has been funded by CIA