re: Tahirul Qadri's long march
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re: Tahirul Qadri's long march
Zalmo Paglo Bhago !
Padri Aa raha hay
Qadri has reached Mureedkay with his five thousand Mureeds
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3,995,000 mureedon ko kis ne ighwa kar liya?
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Rahman Malik
Papa Padri is saying
Zalmo ! Mobile khol do
(Takeh Taliban ko Aasani ho )
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^ Yep but it seems this government would be sent home prematurely as well considering whats happening in the country during the past few days.
This all is plan of game
But
'Wohi hota hay jo Manzoor e Khuda hota hay'
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This march will be attacked by terrorists. Just like what happened to Benazir's procession when she flew into Karachi.
Taliban do not work without payment .
They attacked BB on payment
and
We don't know yet , Who will pay now
Malik Riaz or US
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I do not know why ‘ghulam voters’ are upset with Qadri long-march?
Those who are naive and do not know what Qadri is asking then they should know that:
Pakistani constitution has laid down eligibility conditions for candidates wanting to contest assembly election.
Nevertheless, even though constitution do not allow (considers ineligible for contesting election) candidates who are rushwat-khor, haram-khor, mardood-e-jahan, khaslatan khabees, corrupt, criminal, liar, adulterer, looter, defaulter, rapist, power misuser, involved in nepotism, etc … to contest election … still, caretaker government and election commission till now was keeping blind eyes towards contesting candidates.
Actually, while election commission keeps blind eye, if anyone complains then election commission acts by asking proof of candidates wrong doing … and that also within few days, so, if complainant could not provide proofs within time, election commission let the candidates contest in election. After election, once these thugs get their parliament membership, they seldom get disqualified because of their past wrong doings … rather rarely any inquiries are made on eligibility of sitting members of parliament.
TU-Qadri is only asking that caretaker government and election commission should be such that they should strictly scrutinize all candidates as routine before allowing them to contest election (without even need for any complain coming about their ineligibility).
Actually, ideal should be that even after scrutiny by caretaker government and election commission, if candidate still get through but later found not qualifying the constitutional requirement for contesting election, then that person should automatically lose their assembly membership and as punishment should be put in prison for at least 5 years, plus they should get fined Rs 10 crores and should become ineligible to contest election for life. More the punishment the better, as such thugs defrauded the electorates and the country.
It seems (or that is what I feel is) that corrupts and thugs are now out with their knives in hand maligning TUQ so that they can save their privileges of doing all sorts of ‘haram-khori’ because they might be in assembly or have connections with people in such position who can benefit them with haram-kamai or undue privileges.
These people complain about TU-Qadri Canadian nationality but forget that Qadri took nationality to make his life easier abroad, but did not stole Pakistani wealth and moved it abroad, rather collected donations abroad and brought wealth into Pakistan that he spent mostly on poor and needy.
On the other hand, most thugs in Pakistan assembly who may or may not have taken foreign nationality, but being haram-khors were not even eligible to contest election still did contested due to lack of scrutiny by caretaker government and election commission, and once in assembly, they looted Pakistan and moved a large chunk of those looted wealth abroad.
For these ‘haram-khors’ foreign nationality is immaterial anyhow, as they have billions in looted money that would allow them to live wherever they like regardless of nationality.
Just imagine:
People like Zardari and his wife have looted billions of Pakistani dollars and lived luxurious life outside Pakistan. Their kids (Bilawal and his sisters) also lived a life of Prince and Princess outside Pakistan on looted Pakistani money.
As for Nawaz, he also looted billions of dollars from Pakistan and is now using his kid (Hassan Nawaz) to look after that billions in UK. It seems Hassan Nawaz has also taken British Nationality and is now living in UK as obedient servant of British Queen.
To me, both these thugs and their family members are disloyal to Pakistan not because they took foreign nationality but because they looted Pakistan and moved that looted money abroad. Same is true for most Pakistani ‘haram-khor’ thugs in Pakistani assemblies.
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Every one here estimating an expenditure of two to four billions in last two months on his show .
Where from this money came out .
re: Tahirul Qadri's long march
I do not know why ‘ghulam voters’ are upset with Qadri long-march?
Those who are naive and do not know what Qadri is asking then they should know that:
Pakistani constitution has laid down eligibility conditions for candidates wanting to contest assembly election.
Nevertheless, even though constitution do not allow (considers ineligible for contesting election) candidates who are rushwat-khor, haram-khor, mardood-e-jahan, khaslatan khabees, corrupt, criminal, liar, adulterer, looter, defaulter, rapist, power misuser, involved in nepotism, etc … to contest election … still, caretaker government and election commission till now was keeping blind eyes towards contesting candidates.......
We vote for them Sa1eem bhai. Even after people know all these beautiful characteristics of these beautiful people, they still vote for them.
It is somehow our psychology that law breakers are assumed to be greater human beings then law abiding citizens. We need to educate people to HATE haram-khori and law breaking (in every aspect of life, including driving on roads) and vote for better candidates.
What would Qadri sb achieve? Who would decide which of the candidates is an angel and which one is corrupt? If we let the democratic process to complete a few cycles, the mega haram-khors should be eventually weeded out (given increasing literacy rate in Pakistan).
Yes, we need electoral reforms but not the kind Qadri sb demands. We need smaller constituencies with much larger number of seats in parliament, considering the size of the country. Smaller constituencies would make contesting elections easier and cheaper for 'shareef' candidates.
re: Tahirul Qadri's long march
I do not know why ‘ghulam voters’ are upset with Qadri long-march?
Those who are naive and do not know what Qadri is asking then they should know that:
Pakistani constitution has laid down eligibility conditions for candidates wanting to contest assembly election.
Nevertheless, even though constitution do not allow (considers ineligible for contesting election) candidates who are rushwat-khor, haram-khor, mardood-e-jahan, khaslatan khabees, corrupt, criminal, liar, adulterer, looter, defaulter, rapist, power misuser, involved in nepotism, etc … to contest election … still, caretaker government and election commission till now was keeping blind eyes towards contesting candidates.
Actually, while election commission keeps blind eye, if anyone complains then election commission acts by asking proof of candidates wrong doing … and that also within few days, so, if complainant could not provide proofs within time, election commission let the candidates contest in election. After election, once these thugs get their parliament membership, they seldom get disqualified because of their past wrong doings … rather rarely any inquiries are made on eligibility of sitting members of parliament.
TU-Qadri is only asking that caretaker government and election commission should be such that they should strictly scrutinize all candidates as routine before allowing them to contest election (without even need for any complain coming about their ineligibility).
Actually, ideal should be that even after scrutiny by caretaker government and election commission, if candidate still get through but later found not qualifying the constitutional requirement for contesting election, then that person should automatically lose their assembly membership and as punishment should be put in prison for at least 5 years, plus they should get fined Rs 10 crores and should become ineligible to contest election for life. More the punishment the better, as such thugs defrauded the electorates and the country.
It seems (or that is what I feel is) that corrupts and thugs are now out with their knives in hand maligning TUQ so that they can save their privileges of doing all sorts of ‘haram-khori’ because they might be in assembly or have connections with people in such position who can benefit them with haram-kamai or undue privileges.
These people complain about TU-Qadri Canadian nationality but forget that Qadri took nationality to make his life easier abroad, but did not stole Pakistani wealth and moved it abroad, rather collected donations abroad and brought wealth into Pakistan that he spent mostly on poor and needy.
On the other hand, most thugs in Pakistan assembly who may or may not have taken foreign nationality, but being haram-khors were not even eligible to contest election still did contested due to lack of scrutiny by caretaker government and election commission, and once in assembly, they looted Pakistan and moved a large chunk of those looted wealth abroad.
For these ‘haram-khors’ foreign nationality is immaterial anyhow, as they have billions in looted money that would allow them to live wherever they like regardless of nationality.
Just imagine:
People like Zardari and his wife have looted billions of Pakistani dollars and lived luxurious life outside Pakistan. Their kids (Bilawal and his sisters) also lived a life of Prince and Princess outside Pakistan on looted Pakistani money.
As for Nawaz, he also looted billions of dollars from Pakistan and is now using his kid (Hassan Nawaz) to look after that billions in UK. It seems Hassan Nawaz has also taken British Nationality and is now living in UK as obedient servant of British Queen.
To me, both these thugs and their family members are disloyal to Pakistan not because they took foreign nationality but because they looted Pakistan and moved that looted money abroad. Same is true for most Pakistani ‘haram-khor’ thugs in Pakistani assemblies.
Ganja bros are the biggest shameless people ever to walk on this earth
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to me it all looks a game very well played by PPP and its collation partners… Kaghzi shairs are worried because they were hoping for the next election soon when they were leading the chart in punjab… if qadri’s demands are accepted (which will be most likely the case) benefit will be of two parties, PPP + MQM.
MQM because they dont want this → SC suggests door-to-door verification of Karachi votes | Pakistan | DAWN.COM (653 votes in 120 yards house?!?!)
and pre-2002 constituency delimitation of karachi
PPP because they were at the their lowest of popularity chart and needed some time for “jor tor” during the prolonged interim govt, they unwillingly nominated this chief election commissioner at that time to keep things calm, now is time for ppp to get rid of him
and of course qadri will come out as a person who keeps his promise and will try to wash clean all the “good record” that he has on his name, ppp and its collation partners are already giving him full chance and support. rehman malik providing him as much hype as he can. ganja bros are afraid because this game is only taking the bigger piece of cake away from them. mqm has done their part already.
imran khan is watching from corner and trying to fit in the situation but it looks late and chances for him are not very bright, imran bhai ka case “khisiyani billi khamba noche” wala hogya hay
shaikh rashid looks at ganja bros, then looks at qadri, then looks at imran, hoping someone will give him a chance, but…
and Pakistani politics goes on, people getting killed in Queta, Karachi, Swat everywhere no one cares, even at this dire situation in queta political parties are trying to grab the last chance to make the govt for few days, people who always apposed army in Karachi where the number of killings never came below 100-200 in a month, are asking for army to step in, others are trying to encash the miseries of victims by offering to create their govt in place of raisani…
sadly, shameless state of affairs we have in our country
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MQM and PPP are ally but not a party and no election alliance between possible even .All bogus vote were never used for PPP but for others . PPP although could not perform better due to different reasons but they look fine with coming elections . A better judiciary and a more better election commission is giving hope for a fair election . I don't think any victory for PPP but it is right of the people to select their representatives . A better future is just close to us . Coming election will help us and another election will bring more better results . Let's trust our nation . People are not bad . They love Pakistan and they will make it better . I am a supporter of PPP but its possible defeat is not a tension for me but democracy is more important .
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I think the Long March should have started from Karachi
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Sunni tehreek has been very active in bhatta collection in Karachi but I doubt they would’ve collected that much money to sponsor this big event for 40,000 buses, crore rupee container etc.
WoW 653 votes in one house, is this Karachi house or a village wadera constituency.
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We vote for them Sa1eem bhai. Even after people know all these beautiful characteristics of these beautiful people, they still vote for them.
It is somehow our psychology that law breakers are assumed to be greater human beings then law abiding citizens. We need to educate people to HATE haram-khori and law breaking (in every aspect of life, including driving on roads) and vote for better candidates.
What would Qadri sb achieve? Who would decide which of the candidates is an angel and which one is corrupt? If we let the democratic process to complete a few cycles, the mega haram-khors should be eventually weeded out (given increasing literacy rate in Pakistan).
Yes, we need electoral reforms but not the kind Qadri sb demands. We need smaller constituencies with much larger number of seats in parliament, considering the size of the country. Smaller constituencies would make contesting elections easier and cheaper for 'shareef' candidates.
Brother you are right that people vote for these thugs. Well, these thugs also know the power of ignorant, illiterate, selfish and blind in third world democracy and they also know how to use animal like voters for their own benefit.
Anyhow, in most democracy there are built in protection from corrupt thugs entering Parliament and that is called illegibility for contesting election. This illegibility factor saves the country and people from thugs entering parliament.
It is not the voters who stop these thugs entering parliament as voters do not know anything about candidates personal life and clandestine immoral and corrupt financial activities. If voters know anything, they know that superficially. The duty to stop thugs entering parliament is job of government functionaries and law enforcing agencies with deep knowledge due to all state resources with them and it is they who have the responsible of exposing these thugs (their behind the scene immoral and corrupt activities) and stopping them from contesting election using ineligibility clause in constitution. Caretaker government and election commission should govern these state functionaries and law enforcement agencies to implement ineligibility clauses as constitution demands.
Fortunately Pakistan also has that built in factor in present constitution (in form of article 62 and 63), but unfortunately those protection gets compromised due to lack of implementation by care-taker governments and election commission. This lack of implementation is due to reason that care-taker governments are never impartial and Election commission are toothless in most cases.
If this lack of implementation due to partial care-taker government and toothless election commission (who are mostly partial and incompetent too) would continue than there would be no change in Pakistan however many times Pakistan goes through election.
TU-Qadri is not asking for any constitutional amendment, he is just demanding neutral and competent caretaker-government and powerful election commission with means to scrutinise all candidates who want to contest election and see that they fulfil all requirements of democracy.
Present time is the best time for such demand, as caretaker government is to get installed and election commission position is still fluid. People who would install caretaker government are present government and they (present government) also have power to make election commission with means who are also effective, efficient, powerful and meaningful.
If TU-Q has done something in this regard few months ago (or earlier) by long-march or whatever protest so to force present government into installing neutral care-taker government and effective election commission than that would have been meaningless (time was too early) as that would not have been too early for such demands (government would have said that you are asking too early for things that government would have to decide many months later).
On the other hand, if TU-Q had done something once caretaker government is installed than it would have been too late as then one would be asking care-taker government to change care-taker government, but they have no authority to change care-taker government.
So… what TU-Q is doing is quite appropriate and at right time.
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Pakistani people are so negative minded. All I hear is people trying to discredit the guy. You just have to ask yourself is he doing the right or the wrong thing and will it lead to a better Pakistan or a worse Pakistan.
I personally think that the country needs serious reform otherwise sooner or later I see a bloody revolution. What Pakistan needs now is reformers.
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I also liked the way TUQ dealt with Malik Riaz. He did not meet him so that aspersions would not be cast on his integrity. He dealt with Malik Riaz firmly but fairly. I also admire the way he stuck to his guns and did not cave in to pressure to cancel the long march.
This is a decisive time in the life of the nation and the country is at a crossroad, the rights actions now would yield good results in the long run for the nation. I think that all progressive forces should join him. It is not just his struggle for a better Pakistan but all of us want a better Pakistan.Nobody is going to hand to us a better Pakistan but we have to build it ourselves. We don't want 2 parties sytem dominated by dynasties.
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This cheap man who started his life with lies about his dreams about The holy prophet As , who was lying whole the day ,yesterday ,live on Tv , just making money as spiritual leader ,spending billions on this short term drama
When I saw him saying yesterday that
*Main aik Lakh logon kay sath march shroo kar raha hoon *
I could not believe on my ears .
A man who uses name of Allah , Rasool e Kreem As and Hussain AS every time , he can lie so openly
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Pakistani people are so negative minded. All I hear is people trying to discredit the guy. You just have to ask yourself is he doing the right or the wrong thing and will it lead to a better Pakistan or a worse Pakistan.
I personally think that the country needs serious reform otherwise sooner or later I see a bloody revolution. What Pakistan needs now is reformers.
If his life was okay, if he had not lied, if his organization was involved in bhatta khori, if he had not acquired dual citizenship then I'd have given him benefit of doubt but suddenly coming out of nowhere showing such "power", "no compromise" people have to doubt him.
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If his life was okay, if he had not lied, if his organization was involved in bhatta khori, if he had not acquired dual citizenship then I'd have given him benefit of doubt but suddenly coming out of nowhere showing such "power", "no compromise" people have to doubt him.
I am sorry Captain !
You are with some misunderstanding .
This Thug has no connection with Sunni Tehreek
Sunny Tehreek is much bigger party than this one
He made a party Pakistan Awami Tehreek in past and participated in two elections but could not get a single seat , he was awarded a single seat in 2002 by Mush like Ik due to his enmity with his emloyer of the past , NS .
He is a juggler type Peer , He used Maraqba + yoga type technique to get some mureeds , In past ,he was active in Pakistan , but when he found more paying people , He shifted to Canada ( with some one too) and he is working with my Pakistan loving Pakistani Muslims abroad
Aah ! they are target of every looter .