I have to disagree..there is no take off or take it down....it is a slow process....real masses that constituent 90% or more that live in rural and urban areas are uneducated, driven by petty benefits, govern and like to be governed on bradarai and caste system.. and have no clear idea of equitable, democratic and civilized society and they careless .... that will change very very slow...after hundred of years maybe ....it is an evolutionary process....
again india being a prime example where after 60 years of continued democracy, we still see so many social evils plus masses still vulnerable to exploitation in the name of religion/cast/regionalism/languages ... although years of economic growth and strengthened democrat institutions have put country on the right path...
we need to the same...get your institutions in place..media, judiciary and election commission...and yes i agree we are making progress towards that....but dont expect any sudden take off...come back after 100 years and the basis social mix of Pakistan wont be dramatically different but people will be more aware of their rights..hopefully!
To some extent I agree with you, I agree with you that our nation as a whole is corrupt and we use Zardari, Nawaz or "system" as escape goat for finger pointing for our corruption. "Leadership" reflects the nation but then nation also follows a leader, these are two theories, so we can hope (as well as improve ourselves individually) that we get a good sincere leader at top who we can follow.
I will tell you the root cause of the problem. THE SYSTEM. To change the system we can hope to get good leaders but that is unlikely to happen at least anytime soon, or we can change ourselves and our thoughts and force the so called leaders to reform the system. Which means that we need to take a stand and be prepared for a struggle.
Instead of following politicians we need to get the politicians following us. As ultimately we are their masters, and need to be able to control them.
I will tell you the root cause of the problem. THE SYSTEM. To change the system we can hope to get good leaders but that is unlikely to happen at least anytime soon, or we can change ourselves and our thoughts and force the so called leaders to reform the system. Which means that we need to take a stand and be prepared for a struggle.
Instead of following politicians we need to get the politicians following us. As ultimately we are their masters, and need to be able to control them.
like Allama Tupac Shakur Ali Khan said "Everybody wants change, but nobody wants to change themselves."
**Newsweek Pakistan @NewsweekPak: Emboldened by the Hazara sit-ins, Tahir-ul-Qadri may demand immediate dissolution of the federal government, reports Geo.
like Allama Tupac Shakur Ali Khan said "Everybody wants change, but nobody wants to change themselves."
The problem is that not EVERYBODY wants change. There are people benefiting from our current system who would not want it changed. They include government employees (including law enforcement), employees of government owned enterprises, bureaucrats, politicians, feudal lords, business people with shady businesses and negligible tax payments, and so on. You can see they are the most vocal against this march too. These are essentially the people who are responsible for 'implementing' whatever changes proposed and I do not think they could be easily pushed to do so.
Strict implementation of law for everyone is the only way we can survive. Like more or less we have implementation of traffic laws on motorway and people tend to drive less crazily there, compared to other roads. I don't know how that can be achieved countrywide.
The title of the thread can now be changed. Its no longer a threat, he has done it.
Correct me if im wrong, only the 2nd time in recent history of Pak that such a march was actually completed by a politician? The first one being BB's march back in 90s?
But to ask people to swear by Quran to stay here for as long as he does.. Low! You have heater in bullet proof container Maulana sb, they will be on roads in cold :)
Just listened to his speech and to be honest I was disappointed by it. I think he is now becoming too hardline. I hope he sticks with the minimum consensus agenda and does not come up with extra demands tomorrow.
But to ask people to swear by Quran to stay here for as long as he does.. Low! You have heater in bullet proof container Maulana sb, they will be on roads in cold :)
Also asking people to promise to stay there without announcing his full list of demands first.
Just listened to his speech and to be honest I was disappointed by it. I think he is now becoming too hardline. I hope he sticks with the minimum consensus agenda and does not come up with extra demands tomorrow.
bhayee aagay aagay dekhiye hota hai kya. He will ask for dissolution of national and provincial governments. And Army might have to intervene.
I still can't believe he just made a 3-4 mins speech to his followers. WOW!
This event is not so bad , It is warning for new comers and they will have to deliver .
wow..fopr you to say this means that event is actually pretty good....i am getting the same sense from twitter..even TUQ hard core enemies now sayin that there are over 100K people in islamabad
and yes completely agree..if anything, it is a great example for upcoming rulers....people can be mobilized..yes a bad precedent but hey if it serves the purpose why not a slong as army stays away