by the way this thread is a lame attempt at flaming. (still worked im surprised)
for a guy that first says he's been around and then wonders what women want on suhaag raat like a doodh ka dhulla chota munna baby is doubtful at best....and then he diverts the topic himself by going into the same ol "i want my mommy to find me a shareef girl from back home because all u abcds are sluts even though i've been sleeping around but so what im a guy i can slut around but i have a duty to protect my daughter, mother and sister and marry a virgin only"...much to the likes of the usual suspects (anil khan and afridi786 who loves to stare at boobs on display)
haha....from the off i predicted this thread would reach #10 pages and we're passed half way point already, keep up the good work and don't let me down... :D
actually from an Islamic perspective…once someone has repented sincerely and asked Allah (SWT) for forgiveness and does not repeat that sin again…that person DOES NOT have to reveal his past sin to anyone. It’s between him and ALLAH (SWT) and no one else.
Incase he is repenting, he does not have to reveal whatever his past was. Then those things become very small. Those things are not important. The sins, the bad things. It will only leave his bride feeling bad. If he really repents now and has attained that purity of mind after all the sins, maybe God will like his act so much that grant him the kind of wife he desires. I mean who knows?
Also, the status, the purity of the MIND is what counts. The 'virginity' non-viginity' bulsh!t brings humans down to the intellectual capacity of animals. Guys looking for 'virgin' girls to marry, I do not see them as humans. If that's what a woman is all about for them, she will be no important than, as someone else said, 'a baby producing machine' to them.
I read somewhere that the 'sins, ' bad deeds' should be kept under cover. Should not be revealed,. Should not be spread. Spreading the bad acts will spread the bad ways in the comuunity. Sometimes the sins may be comitted by the 'heros' the good people. In that case, rest will follow them by making an excuse of 'our heros' did it too.
ive said this many times before..the statistical probability of finding a “slut” is WAY more in ABCDs rather than girls back home. It’s just a matter of opportunity, in the west there is a lot more chance to do haraam things.
SO if a guy wants to play safe, he better go back home. Nothing like getting phonecalls from your ABCD wife’s “friends” after marriage
I understand that but no one is giving you a microphone and asking to reveal all the secrets to the p ublic but the one you share your bed with, the one you will live with, the one who is going to mother ofyour kids, one you suppose to trust and is your better half.
Is it right to hide something from them?
The point is you wont reveal your self because you are afraid you will not be accepted if thats the case isn’t it a lying for lifetime.
What if your wife had an interesting past just like yourself. You know its not impossible to place the hymen back - there are medical procedure that can get done. Wouldnt you want to know?
Regarding whether it is 'right' to hide something like this depends on how much important 'the hymen' part is for a human. As I said if it is really really important like this is all a woman or man is about then yes 'hiding' will hurt the partner to whom it is important. But as I said, for a man/woman with purity of mind and heart, these physical things should not be important. In Islam, partners are allowed to 'lie' to save their spouse hurt/disappointments or to make them happy, 'lieing' is allowed between the partners as have I heard.
Regarding your 2nd point, one should not lie because he/she is 'afraid' of losing the partner. That would make it a 'deceit' (as happened with me. My partner to-be lied to me only in fear of losing me whereas I did not. And me not lieing became a reason for him to 'degrade' me). It should be done only if his/her 'lie' is making the other happy or saving him/her bad feelings/disappointment/hurt, IMO.
The point is you wont reveal your self because you are afraid you will not be accepted if thats the case isn't it a lying for lifetime.
I just have a hard time diguesting how on earth one can live with someoen every single of their lives and hide part of their soul. Part of themselves… I consider it as a constant lie…
i guess we all have different moral values etc in life..
I personally would not want to go forward with him unless he knows the real me with all the faults and good things. Otherwise knowing that i have hidden something will make things worse. I refuse to live with a constant lie…