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Wow, the amount of ignorance I see in this kid. I wont even bother arguing with you, Crescent. You will not change your mind no matter how much I post on the topic. Its already been posted before. You can do a few searches and enlighten yourself on the topic of muslim women and their ACCEPTED roles in society, which do go beyond changing your diapers.
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I just hope he isnt serious, cant belive this kinda attitude still exists!
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^ I assure you it does. I don't know what their moms teach them.
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It’s ok, I know why 
ChamCham: I said you have no choice but to stay home, as that is what is asked of you. I did not say You cannot work or leave your house As our scholar pyaricgudia had stated the status of Aisha r.a. and Khadija r.a.
But if you do require some reference to the status of the Women, in FRONT of the Men. Please do read the following. Taken from the “Gift to the Bride” Darul Ishaat
And stay quietly in your houses, and make not a dazzling display of yourselves like that of the former times of ignorance. (Surah Ahzab:33).
O Prophet! Tell thy wives and daughters and believing women that they should cast their outer garments over their persons (when abroad). (Surah Ahzab:59).
Hadith: The Prophet saw said to some women, “Those of you who stay at home will gain the action (merit) of the Mujahideen (those who strive in the path of Allah).” The Holy Prophet (s.a.s.) said, “If a wife of any of you should ask permission to go to the mosque, do not stop her.” Muslim ladies may work outside of the home in jobs that do not her religion. For example, if she is not required to uncover herself, remain alone with a man who is not her relative, serve or associate around alcohol, pork, or drugs, etc… Muslim ladies are doctors, lawyers, teachers, business owners, bankers. They are also politically and socially involved in communities here and abroad. They fund-raisers human rights activists, and moral consciousness raisers. They may function in these arenas with the permission of their husbands and the support of their families and communities. If there is a conflict between these activities and home life, the Muslim lady knows and undoubtedly understands that any and all activities outside the home, but never would she abandon her family. Family is her first and foremost obligation. The Holy Prophet (s.a.s.) has stated that, “A woman is the guardian of the family of her husband and of his children, and she will be asked about them (as to what extent she fulfilled their rights).”
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I dun’t know how you were brought up. But instead of google, and my mom telling me stuff. I actually read on my own.
Try it, it may further help you become like…oh..a SUPER scholar 
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^ Do you realize you're contradicting yourself? One one side you say women have no choice but to stay at home. And then you talk about
Muslim ladies are doctors, lawyers, teachers, business owners, bankers. They are also politically and socially involved in communities here and abroad. They fund-raisers human rights activists, and moral consciousness raisers.
No, I do not argue with you, because I'd be wasting my time. You already admitted to what I'm saying, although you contradict yourself and make yourself look like an idiot. Women are perfectly allowed to hold careers if they wish to.
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Excuse me? Are you a revolutionary?
You can’t integrate Islamic way of life with today’s society. Its unchangeable.
and yes i’ll openly say it, its deviant to integrate.
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Post #64 my dear…post 64. Read it plz. Told you theres a deficiency in your english. Sighs
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Then why do you wear suit and tie, as you post in your pictures? Isn't that the dress of western men?
Why do you use photoshop? Isn't that the invention of western technology?
:o
Right. If you dont want to integrate, then don't live in the West.
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Yeah, and where does your post 64 say women shouldn't be doctors, bankers, etc.?
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Do I pray in a different way? Do I allow muslim girls to wear tiny tube tops cuz its the culture?
Get your definition of integration right. Thank you.
As for post 64. Just tell me actually in this thread, where I forced you to stay at home? I stated the commands of the Prophet pbuh.
Women can have occupations, however, we’re discussing on a level where we are talking about Women equaling the weight factor of men, WHICH IS NOT possible.
Please try to read my posts carefully so I do’t have to waste bandwith here.
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You said their place is in their home. That's contradictory to saying they're allowed to have jobs. And you also first scoffed about my mention of Aisha and Khadija.
Get your own facts correct, sir.
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Yes because it is mentioned in the Quran and a commandment of the Prophet pbuh! Thats why I said women folks should stay home! Can they not be a teacher a doctor and still stay home? Like logically speaking.
A home isn’t a cage, I think you’re misunderstanding the point.
And…again, this is EXACTLY the problem with you guys, you ALWAYS read the part that interests you, and totally miss the parts that you want to avoid. Let me post it again. Why would I contradict myself if I’m the one that typed it up!
**And stay quietly in your houses, and make not a dazzling display of yourselves like that of the former times of ignorance. (Surah Ahzab:33). **
O Prophet! Tell thy wives and daughters and believing women that they should cast their outer garments over their persons (when abroad). (Surah Ahzab:59).
Hadith: The Prophet saw said to some women, “Those of you who stay at home will gain the action (merit) of the Mujahideen (those who strive in the path of Allah).”
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^ your skewed logic would only make sense if you’re suggesting that hospitals/clinics, schools, business facilities, etc should be opened inside peoples’ homes.
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Sadzz, If a black person said to a white person "o take me as a slave now and my family shall serve you forever, you are indeed great o one of lesser melalin" I would critisise that life style choice with zealous crazedness.
Now, it is funny how you assume that I am simply judging. You are happy enough as an equal, but many women in Pakistan do not have the ability to live life like you - becasue of women and indeed men like this. Women like this validate the acts of fkers ala chovanists.
Pinny, my point exactly.
Cresent love, you are a child. And full of bull. I refuse to believe that you are better than me becasue you have (or not have) a pen&s. That does by no means render you greater. If you refuse to take my word for it ask the rest of humanity. I also refuse to believe that my God would be as ignorant as to love one of its child above the other. God is perfect. Sexsm is a personification of human fault and mans complex. It is not a devine natural order.
edit: and lovely if there are any words in there that you don't quite understand, please don't fail to ask. :)
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Women's place is at home. In kitchen. Raising kids. They have natural talent for making a house cleaner than men. That's irrefutable. I've never seen any man's house as homey as when a woman's touch is present. Plus, only women can make rotis. Men can only go as far as to boil rice if their life depends on it.
The sole reason of the rotis is strong enough argument in my eyes. Everybody loves rotis.
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^ Then many of the guys I know must be girls deep down.
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PCG, just like you're really a boy, they are girls. Yes.
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Cresent - might be a good idea to wander back into cafe where you came from, this is going to get you nowhere*editing the stuff that doesn't apply*. All that did was brand you as a child and probably negated your argument to everyone who was following it.
As far as women go, geesh, you must have had very poor female role models to think they are not equal. Or is this what you are trying to say? Or is it something different than what you are portraying here? I think that the roles females play in society made be looked down apon by men, such as you, but that doesn't make them any less important. After all, it was a woman who got you to the age that you are now doing traditionally a woman's job and successfully for (what was it??? guessing age now) 13/14 (??) years made sure nothing killed you or harmed you and made sure you were educated and well read (as you assume you are).
Women are not lesser than men, they are different period. And you ought to read what hiccup said. Just because of an accident of genetics, that doesn't mean you are better or have more of a right to or say in anything. Some men, like my husband, are lucky and smart enough to have proved themselves without tearing others down and deserve the respect that I give him by allowing him to have the last say in the household. But to demand it because you are male?? Ridiculous.
For respect like that you have to prove yourself worthy to anyone, even females (unless they're sense of worth is as low as you assume it is), and by simply calling people names and not showing respect for anyone with a differing viewpoint, you have proved that you have a long way to go before getting to that point.
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Ditto Roman