I have just had the most fked up of conversations with someone for these reasons alone I am ashamed to call a relation. She is a housewife. Her husband is a certified Fker. Long story short. Her hubby married twice without her knowledge.
She said that men are 70% better than women. A womans place is in the house - and that this is the way things have always been - to want equality is something cultured from a complex that women have in the west.
Women have been through so much to get equality. In Pakistan they are still going through so much to gain equality - and then you have these cushy life living little housewives of 27 who make things harder and harder.
It makes me SO angry. When I tried to refute her unadulterated vomitting of bakwas - I was told that I have not seen the world. I shall understand only after marrage. Therefore for her worldly experiance is coupled with the Nikkah.
Wait, perhaps shes trying to justify her life...must be terrible for her, i doubt she can get away and go off and live the life she wants.... she probably been "programmed" to think this way.
I dont think its necessarily her fault.
I too knew a man who married a second lady without the first's knowledge... actually I know a few... anyway the first chap im refering to did it in the 70's and when his wife did find out she tried to justufy it to people.
She didnt want to look like a fool.
by the way her hubby was a Maulvi.
he shouldve known better!
Are you trying to be funny or clever? You know nothing of the situation. Of my life - and “utopias” nor hers. Stop assuming. My question was concerning the holding of such a view to begin with.
daisy: An educated who holds such a view should be shot. Nothing more about it. If someone has been “programmed” such - it is still their fault. To call an alternative opinion blashpemous is also a load of. I dont see any excuse. If anything she should be veremently pro equality.
Edit: and daisy, she has a PhD and is from an extremely well to do fmaily. If she wanted she could live otherwise. She is not a victim. It is her choice to stay with him. Not once but twice.
I agree aboout calling an alternative comment blasphemous...too many people do it.(dont agree with shooting...tis messy you see)
But try to consider why she thinks that way, does she REALLY believe what she says or is it a front, does she love her husband and doesnt want him to be seen as what he is.
there may be many reasons why she is saying these things, perhaps shes has low self esteem and or a bit depressed, did he or others tell her to say the things she said Its easy to persuaed someone in that condition or frame of mind that these kind of things are true.
If she is happy and I should let her be, Why the fk does she seem it her duty to keep telling me that I need to learn my place in comparison to Man. That I shall never be able to compete in the work place with men as an equal becasue I am born inferior, I am very happy in my "delusion" of equality. In "utopia" as Fungus sees it.
I am beiong continuously told that no matter how hard I try, no matter how I excel my achievements are lesser to a Man becasue he has this extra bit. Or being told that I am simply not brilliant enough because men are simply more "visionary" than women.
No I am not telling her anything, I am simply disagreeing with her in adult debate. Doesnt stop me wanting to bitch slap her - and rightly so.
Hiccup, sometimes you have to put yourself in other people's shoes, just consider where she is coming from and where she has been. It probably makes sense from her point of view.
i guess i can see why she still supports her husband. but if someone i knew ever told me that i need to keep my place in comparison to men, i would slap them. and my parents never told me that women were inferior to men.
