Students raid Islamabad brothel

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As expected, nobody got charged with anything.

Strange.

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so alleged hookers and the psycho vigilantes all got away scott free? hmmm okay

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Meray bhai, living outside of Pakistan does not mean we have never lived there. I grew up in Karachi and know full well how things work there, I have done all kinds of ghunda gardi and badmashi in my days. The thing is people make their country better not worse. You would only know this if you ever had lived outside of Pakistan.

Is there no such thing as humans or people in other countries? Is there no such thing as crime in other countries? Is there no such thing as law enforcement in other countries?

It all depends on how the people want to live. Its take a lot to change the mindset of people. In Pakistan the mindset of people is corrupt. If the people in Pakistan want to live under the Mullahism nizam instead of Islamic and progressive nizam then sure enough it will happen but then so will the same people suffer for it. You don’t fight wrong with another wrong but with right. Pakistan or India aik saath azaad huya tha, aaj dekho dunya mein India or Pakistan ki standing mein kitna faraq hai. Pakistan India ka mad-muqabil hai hi nahin. Aasmaan mein taray ginna chor do.

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So far. Now I wonder if the Madrassa decided to settle for a bit of the kickback...

Dictators who refuse to dictate...vigilante's who don't even bother to dispense justice...and police who don't police. One wonders if the prostitutes....oh never mind.

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yeah thats the type of people these madrissa runners look like anyways.
or maybe mullahs got free service vouchers..sandwich sami probably asked them to step down..

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^
I still don't know why we should judge them any harsher than the cops...or the government...

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^ oh dont get me wrong I am not judging them any harsher than i am judging anyone, the cops, the hookers (alleged) or anyone....nope they are haram khors of the same level. except these ones just hide behind niqab, beard, and religion.

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If only to save the nation from the shadow of taleban style rule? I would rather have corrupt police men calling the shots then vigilante religous fanatics terrorizing the nation with their brand of Islam...

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Well, this is where I disagree. On the spectrum of destroying music CD's to turning a blind eye, or profiting from, human trafficking...sorry dude...you lost me.

This isn't about law and order...this is about your fear of traditionalist Islam (not just talibani style) in general. Isn't it?

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just for my own clarification.

is what these madrissa freaks going for considered 'traditional islam'

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^
What are they "going for"? In any case, acting up without official sanction is what i meant by "talibani" style...

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This is the sort of badmashi and behayai that needs to be stopped!

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went through the whole thread…its not surprising to see Pakistanis from two completely opposite points of view..

somewhere in the middle lies ‘picoico’s’ take on the whole issue and I completely agree..‘PCG’ got him wrong somewhere inbetween the lines..
but I was happy to see ‘PCG’s’ response..she could see where the students are coming from.. :smiley:

yes the students took law into their own hands..there was a reason for that..however, still against the law..
even bigger is the ill-brothels in the society (if they werent operating in Islamabad 20 years ago, does not mean they’re not there today) that prompted them to take such an action..
yes they are both wrong, i’d side with the students

again if u like, suicide bombers are the spreading ill of the society, identifying them and killing them by taking law into your own hands would be similar to the above situation..
both sides would be wrong, i’ll side with u

such course of action shouldnt, by all means, become the norm..this should be the wake up call for the state institutions..to start performing properly..

i so wish to see all of us united as Muslims, or atleast as Pakistanis..

but our current affairs threads picture exactly the opposite..not listening to each other..name calling..dis-respecting..non tolerance towards each other..depicting the situation on ground in our country..atleast in the political arena..
if we wudnt change this..who would
we are all one..there are things that unite us at so many levels..we’re all humans..we’re all muslims..we’re all pakistanis

May Allah help us all!

:jhanda:

^^~~~~Maaan Bawaara~~~~^^ :smack:
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Kudos to them...Can't wait till they raid the president house and the parliament...

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Are we looking at a future Mullani Umer ...

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I would love to see that too!

Infact I would join them if they are going to raid the president, prime minister or any other So-called-leader. This nation has been sitting long enough watching all the cruelties take place. Its time to stand up and let those few LEADERS know we aint dead.

hasta la victoria siempre!

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^ And put these fanatics in charge. Right?

Who do you think will rule Pakistan if these people murder executives of Pakistan government?

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We are.

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i’d like to thank picoico(spot on - as ever), mukhaan and anyone else who stood up for the pakistani viewpoint during this thread. the rest of you need to some time to think!

well done jamia hafsa. these sisters need empoverment as they have shown theyre leadership skills for the welfare of the people of islam abad. this has been a comendable operation.

i do not think this is linked to any sort of talibanisation because pakistani people believe in freedom. anyone here feel they have been restrained by pakistanis unfairly ever!???. barring the odd sissy here and there, pakistanis know they are free and will continue to be as everyone agrees with general freedom of the people.

what a cruel underworld that exists inside pakistani society as evident in this article. an insight has been provided for us and this is as important to deal with as national defence!

http://thenews.jang.com.pk/top_story_detail.asp?Id=6828

ISLAMABAD: Umme Hassan, the principal of Jamia Hafsa, said on Thursday that her students were maintaining a crime register of their own and keeping an eye on all illegal activities in Islamabad.

She told The News that there were about 22 brothels in Sector G-6 alone. “Although the residents want them to be shut down, the police do not take any action because those running them have contacts with influential people,” she claimed.

The Jamia students had kidnapped Shamim Akhtar, a woman allegedly running a brothel, on Tuesday. She was released on Thursday following intense negotiations. Rejecting the impression that the seminary had any plans to start pointing fingers at individuals about their religious duties, she said they would interfere only in matters affecting the whole society.

Affectionately called Aapi Jan by her students, she warned that the authorities dare not challenge their information on the brothels for they had pictures, written evidence and witnesses. A college student who was blackmailed to do prostitution had identified Shamim Akhtar to them, the principal pointed out. “Shamim also supplied girls to some foreign countries,” she said.

The Jamia students kept Shamim under observation for one month, starting from Muharram. They found that about 150 men visited the brothel every day, mostly during the day. “Police knew about her for long but preferred to save their jobs instead of protecting the innocent girls suffering at the hands of this woman,” she remarked.

The Jamia administration gave a set of three options to Shamim for her release. The first was to take her case to court, involve the Shariah court or tender a public apology. Umme Hassan learnt of Shamim agreeing to the third option, on telephone during the course of this interview.

The principal said that they chose the path that they did because peaceful demonstrations against such acts had proven futile in the past. “The government never changes its policies.” She strongly denied having any weapons on the campus. “We were advised by our well wishers to store some following the events in February but I refused for the safety of my students.” Asked about the presence of suicide bombers in the seminary, she said that all her students taking part in this movement were risking their lives for a great cause.

“They are mentally prepared to sacrifice their lives any time.” She retorted that for President General Pervez Musharraf, the Jamia was what Osama bin Laden was to President Bush. “People ruling the country feel threatened by our strong faith.” Umme Hassan appreciated the policies of Taliban. “They were not given enough time to prove themselves.” The Jamia Hafsa has about 5000 students and teachers staying at the seminary. “We are fully supported by our families and they feel proud of us when we take part in these rallies,” said Humaira Abdullah, a teacher.

With 12 branches in the sister cities, Jamia Hafsa has a total of 7,000 students who are also involved in different welfare activities like providing refuge to women in distress and financially supporting the needy.

Aaj Kiss Baat Par Gussa Aaya ??????
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Was this the same brothel that Maulana Sami "sandwich" ul-Haq frequented some years ago?