So do your kids wear red on Valentines Day and green on St. Patty’s?
Yes no why ![]()
So do your kids wear red on Valentines Day and green on St. Patty’s?
Yes no why ![]()
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Colors do not symbolize religion in these Hallmark holidays. I dont mind either way but if there is an occasion in their school then I dont want them to feel left out.
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Yes, when I was a child, my mother dressed me in a red dress + red hair clips + red tights + red shoes + red nail polish for Valentines day.
On St Patty’s day she made me a green silk dress with a pretty little sequined butterfly and green tights and green shoes. and a green hair clip. ![]()
why stick with one colour for Paddy’s day … white, orange and green :k:
btw its not St. Patty’s … you amrikaans ruin all ispellings ![]()
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Yes they wear
Why? because everyone else in the school does that :)
we have told kids that even if we dont believe on some celebrations from other religions, its OK to join others in their happiness unless its something that is barred in Islam
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Do they still wear colors for holidays these days?
This tradition was long dead even when I was in school which was not long ago btw... there was 1 girl who used to wear green, I'm sure she was drunk from the night before :D
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^ yeah green ribbon on pocket/sleeve etc
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When I handed my daughter her clothes this morning she reminded me that she had to wear GREEN today. So I got her the green shirt we had bought earlier, it has 'Irish girl' logo on it.
I don't see any problem with my kids wearing a certain color on St Patrick's day or making cards for friends on Valentines.
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am i the only one who thinks it's completely wrong to dress up in certain colours for these holidays? i don't think i'll let my kid do that b/c i'll be telling him in an indirect way that it's ok for us muslims to join in on these made up holidays that are unislamic. I don't think it's ok for my son to be giving out valentine cards to little girls telling them they're cute or whatever so why would i be ok with him celebrating valentine's day?
That being said I wouldn't deprive my child of going to school if they were having a party in their class, but going out of my way to dress up for an unislamic holiday is not right. what next, then he'll be asking to get presents on christmas as well. I'm nowhere near as religious as i'd like to be but i believe islam tells us not to be like the non-believer's and take part in their traditions. I don't mean to sound like a mulla, but that's just my two cents :)
am i the only one who thinks it's completely wrong to dress up in certain colours for these holidays?
yes you are the only one ..
chalo change the color of your nick from laalmirch to harimrich, laal is such a non islamic color. toba toba
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No.
Unless their school has asked them to do so.
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I never felt pressured to dress up for these holidays at schools I went to so I don't think I'll specially dress up my child unless it is required and I'll expect my him/her to understand but if they make it their 'ana ka masla' then I'll let them, it's no big deal.
HA! I guess i’m not the only one…would you dress your kids up in red and green for christmas too? And I never said that I wouldn’t dress them up in different colours because the COLOURS are non-islamic, it’s what I’m saying about accepting and celebrating these dumb made up holidays ![]()
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Good point laalmirch.
I don't really care. But then I shouldn't let them receive any gifts on Valentine's either...or make crafts that day that are Valentine (etc.) related. Where to draw the line.
So I just let them be indifferent about it and not make a big deal.
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I think there would be much bigger issues as our kids get older than letting them wear a certain color on a certain day.
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I think this is one of the things that as a parent...maybe its better to be indifferent about it. What i mean is, follow their lead to an extent. You dont want to be the strict parent that never lets them do anything fun for some reason they cannot undrestand....
Its only when they get older, as sajalina says, that these holidays become troublesome (ie. st pattys day-drinking, v-day--well uknow). thats where they need that strong value base.
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it seems unnecessarily complicated to me... not everyone goes drinking on st. paddy's day and not everyone receives kisses on valentine's day! why must everything be such a big deal?
valentine's day is to show appreciation for someone- why can't they make their moms and dads valentine's? why can't it be celebrated but as a family day and not as a boy-girl day. why can't little girls give valentine's to their little girl friends?
i don't have kids yet, but to me, it seems really important to pick your battles. i can't imagine feeling guilty because my kid is wearing a green t-shirt to school, and if i started worrying about every little holiday that came up living abroad, i think i'd lose my mind!
what's more important, imho, is to make sure your kids know what being a muslim is all about and to me, that primarily means the shahadah, namaaz, roza, zakat, and umra/hajj. and of course, reading the Quran when they're older and can understand what they are reading. once they get those down and practice them faithfully, then i will consider myself to be a successful parent and will trust them to make the right decisions in their lives, and trust Allah to guide them. holiday confusion, esp. cultural holidays, is secondary to me.
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Sara516: You can't be "indifferent" about something early on in a child's life and then change your stance as they get older - when, as you say, "these holidays become troublesome" - and expect your children to magically change along with you.
Children are by far most impressionable in their early, formative years. By being "indifferent" and buying into these celebrations - i.e. sure, wear green; yeah sure, give your friends presents for Christmas; etc. - you're creating a situation where your kids will learn to "celebrate" these holidays in a similar fashion in the years to come. As with any habit formed early on in life, this habit will be difficult to break.
somegroovychick: Again, it isn't about making things a big deal. It's not about fighting battles for the sake of controlling every aspect of your child's life. Rather, it's about teaching them what you as a parent believe. You say that Valentine's day is to show appreciation for someone... says who? Cupid? Why can't you appreciate your parents on Feb. 13th? Or the 15th?
Seriously, I'm not some curmudgeon. I'm not trying to be overly miserable or anything. But this is an important point. If you make Valentine's day special in any way - even if it's not in the traditional Western way - your children will always think in those terms. And I just don't agree with that.
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Oh and SGC I completely agree with everything in your last paragraph, however good parenting isn't only that. It includes many other facets.
Sara516: You can't be "indifferent" about something early on in a child's life and then change your stance as they get older - when, as you say, "these holidays become troublesome" - and expect your children to magically change along with you.
Children are by far most impressionable in their early, formative years. By being "indifferent" and buying into these celebrations - i.e. sure, wear green; yeah sure, give your friends presents for Christmas; etc. - you're creating a situation where your kids will learn to "celebrate" these holidays in a similar fashion in the years to come. As with any habit formed early on in life, this habit will be difficult to break.
somegroovychick: Again, it isn't about making things a big deal. It's not about fighting battles for the sake of controlling every aspect of your child's life. Rather, it's about teaching them what you as a parent believe. You say that Valentine's day is to show appreciation for someone... says who? Cupid? Why can't you appreciate your parents on Feb. 13th? Or the 15th?
Seriously, I'm not some curmudgeon. I'm not trying to be overly miserable or anything. But this is an important point. If you make Valentine's day special in any way - even if it's not in the traditional Western way - your children will always think in those terms. And I just don't agree with that.
Good post and please don't be apologetic about your view. It's your view, people will and should respect it.