In the wake of the recent news of banning Christmas …
Somalia has arrived at a very good alternative. - Mawlid un- Nabi
And they have made it a national holiday.
What do you think might be the motivations for these recents actions?
Somalia declares prophet Mohammed’s birthday as national holiday
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To keep people’s attention focused away from governance issues…
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^ what is the expense ratio for the World Index Fund?
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'yaum-e-milaad-un-nabi' is a national holiday even in India. so what?
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^ what is the expense ratio for the World Index Fund?
What is up with the random business related interjections? You do it often and they have no relevance to the topic at hand. What is the purpose?
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What is up with the random business related interjections? You do it often and they have no relevance to the topic at hand. What is the purpose?
Good question.
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'yaum-e-milaad-un-nabi' is a national holiday even in India. so what?
Then a few countries can learn a thing or two from India. It has retained somewhat of its traditions since times of old Islamic rule. That is what.
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@Southie hahaha Tanu weds Manu? Sorry for off topic post.
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Exactly! But perhaps our religious mindset intellects have too much in hand to think deep…
Can we have a seperate thread for this brilliant effort too?
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https://www.facebook.com/comicsbymajid/videos/1177349142293459/?pnref=story
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'yaum-e-milaad-un-nabi' is a national holiday even in India. so what?
Not a national holiday, its a "optional" holiday
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May be in a few years after the effect of the mawlid seeps in the corruption will reduce. What are the stats for countries that have been doing this several years already?
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it’s a holiday across India which means it’s a ‘national’ holiday.
Islamic holidaysedit]
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/0/0d/MiladUnnNabi.jpg/220px-MiladUnnNabi.jpg
Mawlid or Eid-e-Milād-un-Nabī being celebrated in a town in Uttar Pradesh.
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[TH=“bgcolor: #F2F2F2, align: center”]Observed in[/TH]
Day of Ashura
10th Muharram. Death of Imam Hussain ibn Ali
All States & Territories.
Eid Milad-un-Nabi
Prophet Mohammad’s Birthday
All States & Territories.
Birthday ofAli ibn Abi Talib
Terah Rajab
Hazrat Ali
Uttar Pradesh and Bihar
Shab-e-Barat
Mid-Sha’ban
Jammu and Kashmir, Haryana, Delhi, Uttar Pradesh, Uttarakhand, Bihar, Jharkhand, West Bengal, Assam, Tripura, Madhya Pradesh, Chhattisgarh, Rajasthan, Gujarat, Maharashtra, Andhra Pradesh, Karnataka, Tamil Nadu
Jumat-ul-Wida
Alvida
Last Friday in Ramadan
Jammu & Kashmir, Uttarakhand, Uttar Pradesh, Andhra Pradesh
Eid ul-Fitr
Eid/Ramazan Id
End of Ramadan
all states and territories
Eid e Ghadeer
Eid/Eid e Ghadeer
18th of Dhu al-Hijjah
Telangana[SUP][4]](Public holidays in India - Wikipedia)[/SUP]
Eid al-Adha
Bakr-Id
Feast of the Sacrifice
all states and territories
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Milad-Ul-Nabi is sarkari holiday for us.
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Not too good, unfortunately.
From another forum… list of countries where the day is celebrated as a holiday:
AFRICAN COUNTRIES: Algeria, Benin, Burkina Faso, Cameroon, Comoros, Côte d’Ivoire, Djibouti, Egypt, Eritrea, Ethiopia, Gambia, Guinea, Libya, Mali, Mauritania, Morocco, Niger, Nigeria, Senegal, Sierra Leone, Somalia, Sudan, Tanzania, Tunisia, Togo, (In Africa, a total 25 countries out of 54)
MIDDLE EAST: Bahrain, Iran, Iraq, Jordan, Kuwait, Lebanon, Oman, Palestinian National Authority, Syria, United Arab Emirates/UAE, Yemen (11 out of total 14, except Israel, Qatar, Saudi Arabia)
ASIA: Afghanistan, Bangladesh, Brunei, India, Indonesia, Pakistan, Malaysia, Sri Lanka, Uzbekistan
OTHER: Fiji, Guyana,
30 of these countries appear in the bottom half of corruption perception index (CPI) while 13 appear in top half. The only country which celebrates it as national holiday and appears in top 50 of the cleanest countries is United Arab Emirates. Conversely, some 20 of the above countries appear in the bottom 50 countries ranked by CPI.
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how is this an alternative to christmas? a date palm christmas tree and al rudolph the camel?
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Specifically, for the topic, the Somalian president is under tremendous pressure because of his Peoples Party style government in Somalia. He is doing everything to divert attention from those issues.
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Thank you although I was talking flippantly … More seriously is there a correlation with GDP that needs to be taken in to consideration and what about politics?
I mean by presenting the CPI to my praise of Somalia - was it intended to suggest something relevant to the discussion at hand? Because I think CPI is not related to the subject matter.
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Thank you although I was talking flippantly ... More seriously is there a correlation with GDP that needs to be taken in to consideration and what about politics?
I mean by presenting the CPI to my praise of Somalia - was it intended to suggest something relevant to the discussion at hand? Because I think CPI is not related to the subject matter.
Religion is a tool often used by politicians to keep masses busy with these 'controversies' while they consolidate their power and wealth. I bring it up because you asked what could be the motivations behind such actions by the Somalian president.
I mean, how much love for Rasool (SAW) would Solmalian politicians have? If they followed his teachings even to an extent of 10%, they wouldn't be running one of the most corrupt countries in the world.
How does not working for a day prove your love for your Prophet (SAW)?
About correlations, there are several studies showing a positive correlation between how 'religious' a country is and how much corruption exists in that country. I am not talking about Islam in particular. Philippines, for example, is a highly 'religious' society and also a highly corrupt one. If you like, I can point you to some, but as you said that is not the topic here.
The idea is this... once you are indoctrinated with that idea that everything is "God's Will", then you do not have much motivation to stand up to injustices in the society. Again, this is about 'public display of religiosity' and not true faith that can make humans, humans.
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Religion is a tool often used by politicians to keep masses busy with these 'controversies' while they consolidate their power and wealth. I bring it up because you asked what could be the motivations behind such actions by the Somalian president.
I mean, how much love for Rasool (SAW) would Solmalian politicians have? If they followed his teachings even to an extent of 10%, they wouldn't be running one of the most corrupt countries in the world.
How does not working for a day prove your love for your Prophet (SAW)?
About correlations, there are several studies showing a positive correlation between how 'religious' a country is and how much corruption exists in that country. I am not talking about Islam in particular. Philippines, for example, is a highly 'religious' society and also a highly corrupt one. If you like, I can point you to some, but as you said that is not the topic here.
The idea is this... once you are indoctrinated with that idea that everything is "God's Will", then you do not have much motivation to stand up to injustices in the society. Again, this is about 'public display of religiosity' and not true faith that can make humans, humans.
Thank you again. So the motivation for returning to a traditional practice is to detract from the political climate in the upper layers of the ruling stratosphere. I guess that can be a valid theory if there was further evidence thereof.
I have another theory - I feel returning to these practices will help weed out extremism. Now there are counter arguments for sure, but it is a sign of a change of wind direction. Effects will take some time and knowledge and practice has a huge bearing on this. It took 200 years of the Wahabi movement to create its fruit of Daesh, likewise the change coupled with reformed understandings will benefit us in the long run too. This too however may be a valid theory and yes it too needs further evidence thereof.
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^ Wahabis are good as long as they fight your Sunnis' war against Shia. Get rid of "Daesh" from yourself first. These sectarian (corrupting Islam) approaches are counter productive as it creates more divides.
