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I think during those minutes of frustration and commotion we don't think before doing something. There was a whole bunch of doing/saying without thinking first. I think that's what happened with the OP and her hubby.

I would also be uncomfortable around someone that's hurt me, the way her husband didn't want to be in the same room as her. At that point forcing our company on the person will only make them dislike you more. We just need time to ourselves to heal and think things through. Leaving him alone. I guess you know your husband better than us, you should know a bit about when his breaking point is.

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Pisiform,

1) Did you not show your support for Zafra's post? There was no warmth or sugar-coating in his post. Zafra , very bluntly, said in his post that he would have divorced Nadz a loooong time ago due to her nagging and that there is only so much a man can take. I know Zafra and I know he does not advocate physical of abuse of women and I get that he placed some accountability on the wife. However, it was was a blunt and harsh post and you supported it....so that tells me that....even though you SYMPATHIZE with the OP and that your heart goes out to her.......you STILL believe that both partners have to be mindful about nagging and verbal disrespect. And I believe that most of people who have responded here sympathize with her.....but also believe in being patient and controlling your zubaan.....which is exactly the message you endorsed when quoting Zafra and showing support for his views. And it must have been a slap in the face for the OP to hear another guy say that he would have divorced her and to see yet another guy (YOU) support the former guy's opinions. ***** So, at that moment...you yourself weren't being so warm and fuzzy and sympathetic toward the OP (much as she would have liked it) by agreeing with Zafra......you were trying to be FAIR and OBJECTIVE. So, how are we saying or doing something drastically different than you? I don't think we are.

2) In one of my more recent posts, I pointed out that Nadz showed some maturity by going to her husband and offering to cook him something else to eat. So, credit is given where she did good, but nobody is going to give her a pat on her back for kicking her husband in the nuts by telling him he doesn't make much. One has to be fair in their assessment of the situation. Verbal disrespect is a "lesser bad" that physical abuse.....but they're BOTH bad. Her husband is more in the wrong and greater sympathy IS being shown for her but not without reason. If OP had made absolutely ZERO mistakes, I can understand showing her pure, unadulterated sympathy. But if she HAS made a mistake (which she has).......then to sympathize without alerting her to her own mistake is like enabling her.

3) Look at what she's doing now. She wants her husband to grovel and shower her with attention. What does this accomplish other than providing her with an ego boost? I could understand if she wanted to take a break from him because she truly wants to. But to "pretend" you're upset at your spouse just for a little while longer only so that he could serenade you.......doesn't sound right, does it? Does this sound like a woman eager to get her marriage back on track as soon as possible (if at least for the sake of her children.).......or does it sound like a woman that is currently more interested in flattering her ego and being wooed like a heroine? I recall her saying that her husband apologized to her.......but I don't recall reading that she apologized to him. There is no debating that the husband was MORE wrong.....but he deserves an apology for what she said to him........but currently she's not bothered by apologizing for her own mistakes, she wants to be serenaded. The showering of gifts and praise and time and attention will not permanently erase or undo the memory of what her husband did......so why place so much emphasis on groveling?

**4) **The longer that she takes in moving on...(just for the sake of getting attention).......the longer the kids will see that there is tension between mom and dad. Picture it Pisiform......Dad tries to talk to mom....tries to be nice .....and mom gives a bland or cold response because she's secretly flattered and hoping he'll give even more attention to her..........HOW does this look to the 4-year-old? She sees dad trying to communicate with mommy but she's pushing him away. So, the more that Nadz prolongs this.......she'll just delay "normalcy" for her children.

*********** At the start, Nadz mentioned that my husband dragged me in front of my 4-year-old. This seems to indicate that she's concerned about the impact this would have on her child. Where is that concern for the child now, Pisiform? Why is she not thinking about the kids now? Why is she not thinking that I should try to get back to normalcy faster.....since my 4-year-old already witnessed an epic melt-down only days before?

I don't think we're a callous bunch, Pisiform. I am all for sympathy.....but not blind sympathy. Blind sympathy does not help in the long run even if it does "feel good" to the OP in the short-term.

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Do not argue infront of your kids. It can do a lot of damage. Do it later when they r not around and by that time u will have calmed down.

I don't agree with physical violence but sometimes anger can just vent up and then explode.

For your kids sake try n be a bit more patient n try to bring some change in yourself.

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@redvelvet yea but I not a woman either and I did empathized wit her first. And then only I told her what she needs to do. I just didn't straight away assumed like others that she is troll or she should have shut up

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Nadzzz k miaan nai tu mafi magh li…tum loog lagey raho shabash!

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Define empathy, cuz I think it can be a subjective thing. Nobody supports the husband, nobody believes she deserved it even though they do feel she needs to change some habits of hers. One person's idea of empathizing could be to offer a dua in a post and not mention any mistakes made. Another person's idea of empathy could be to validate the OP's feeling in so far as to condemn the husband's actions and to tell her she did not deserve it....but to also alert her to her own faults....as a way to help her. Now this may not be what the OP wants to hear, but the poster may have good intentions and it could be seen as a sign of caring.

If you're referring to people who rushed to be sarcastic....I understand what you're saying. But at the same time....this may sound harsh....but you can't wholly disagree with the sarcastic posters because Nadz's current attitude is proving them right. Look at the number of pages in this thread....let's take out the advice of single folks. She received plenty of good suggestions from married folks on here and most of them condemned the husband while also emphasizing she needs to grow up and exercise some control. It seems to me.....that the only thing she got or heard from the posts is "husband is wrong." Maybe she glossed over the bits advising her to be mature.....otherwise she would have also mattempted to apologize to her husband for her own mistakes.

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again, I am not talking about ever poster. Just some of them. What would that kind of empathy be useful if you don't tell her. Empathy is to recognize and share emotions or placing oneself in their shoes. If your idea of empathy is calling her a troll then I don't know what f'ed up world we are in.

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^Stop putting words in my mouth; you're really stretching it. That is not my definition of empathy and supporting the sentiment that OP is very divorce-deserving is no better or kinder than speculating trolling....though I can understand the reasoning behind both comments.

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Pisiform,

I'm not sure if you will understand this and I can't speak for everyone but I can certainly explain my own position.....

I try to give advice from a place of a big sister. That means that I will not simply console the OP but point out to her what may help her future.

I would hate to see a repeat incident of this sort happen to nadz and the only way to ensure that is to point out to her what she could do from her own side. Obviously she can't control her husband so we can't tell her to lecture him or anything. We can only tell her what SHE can do to safeguard herself.

The fact that I'm a woman makes it easier for me to understand and sympathize with what she is going through but it also makes it that much more likely that I will be able to give her some tips. Why give her sympathy only? That may help her in the short term to feel better but it will do nothing for her betterment.

If "aurat aurat ki dushman hoti hai" applied here then we would simply console her, make her feel as if she did nothing wrong and walk away bad-mouthing her husband. That would serve the purpose of the phrase perfectly well.

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I wasn't referring to you when I wrote. You quoted me asked me to elaborate so that's what I did. I havent even read what you wrote in this thread. But my views clearly make you uncomfortable

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I don’t think even one person in this thread says nadz deserved it. Noone deserves getting hit, I think we can all agree on that. What people, me included, have said is that nadz needs to take on board the advice of five pages worth of threads she has received every time since I have been around GS. More than half a decade. She asked for advice before getting married and I remember people telling her then as well that it is not a good idea. But she never listened. Multiply this by dozens of times.

This has happened to her before too:

http://www.paklinks.com/gs/relationships/514296-so-he-hit-me-advise-now.html

Please read the advise there too. Was it acted upon? The frustration is not here that oh she got hit so its her fault, the frustration is that she is not happy, her husband is not happy and now he has hit her TWO times. Where does it end? At some point she has to sit down and decide what she wants to do. Kids growing up in a household full of abuse or constant arguing, well who wants that? And if she does not listen to advice and keeps living in a hellhole then the next time if he hits her again (he will be again at fault, no disagreement) however would nadz not deserve some blame for AGAIN not doing something about it? Two times now. If her kids seem something like this it will scar them.

Right now she is in a position to either ignore stay in a miserable marriage or maybe decide on solutions and listen to what people are saying. I am glad she chooses to vent here we are all here to help her but she needs to decide what she wants out of a miserable marriage.

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You need tp give the guy space. Period.
If he says, he wants to be alone on the sofa, away from you, thats time for you to beck off.

Let him relax, till he comes back. Do NOT repeat this incident, please.

Even with out holding arm, it was extremely bad episode for dude and for your relation.

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i think issue is he tried to make her a mini sofa on the floor with her bedding, and not go find a sofa for himself.

anyway i really dont see the point here. people who have never been in a relationship and live at home with their mommy-daddyjis are ferociously doling out essays. nadz, just toss a coin and do what you feel like, its the same thing. maybe better.

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I live alone :(

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not fair.
No one tells me any thing.

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takey tumhari izdewaji zindagi per koi aasar na parey …

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