So, General Tariq is on Swat Front

Happy to see this mighty General on Swat Front . He has to face something like Gneral Rommel aka Desert Fox whose tactic was ‘speed and surprise’ but hope our General Montgomery (Monty) would tackle the Rommels of Mountains as he did in Bajaur , shattering the back bone of Al-Qaeda in furious battle of 1.5 year.

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Major General Athar DG ISPR(left) with Major General Tariq DG FC Northen Areas(right)

**Bajaur Fight in mirror of of Article where General Tariq lead the armed forces in this bloodiest battle **

September 21, 2008

Battle to be won or lost in Bajaur

By Ismail Khan

THE battle in the Bajaur Agency has not only become a tipping-point for Pakistan’s internal security, it can also have a deep impact on the country’s status as a key US ally in the war against terrorism. In the second week of August, the operation started haltingly to prevent what looked like the imminent fall of Bajaur’s regional headquarters, Khaar, to the militants.
Having suffered initial reversals, the operation is now on at full throttle. It has created a surrender-or-die situation for the militants and a now-or-never moment for the country’s security forces.
Predictably, the militants are using everything they have to hold their ground. Government and security officials say that they are baffled by the resilience and stiff resistance offered by the battle-hardened fighters, by their tactics and the sophistication of their weapons and communications systems.
“They have good weaponry and a better communication system (than ours),” said a senior official. “Even the sniper rifles they use are better than some of ours. Their tactics are mind-boggling and they have defences that would take us days to build. It does not look as though we are fighting a rag-tag militia; they are fighting like an organised force.”

More worryingly, the Bajaur battleground has attracted militants from other tribal regions and from across the border, from Afghanistan’s eastern Kunar province. It has long been known that there are foreign militants in Bajaur, but their numbers have always been thought to be small. Now, their ranks are swelling, catching by surprise many veterans in the civil-military establishment. This supply line from Kunar to Bajaur has, however, eased the pressure in Afghanistan. Western diplomatic sources acknowledge that the level of violence in Kunar has dropped appreciably since the launch of the operation in Bajaur, indicating a planning and operational linkage that overlaps the Durand Line.
Realising how crucial and critical the Bajaur operation is — and the massive impact it can have on restive neighbouring tribal regions — the army has lined up tremendous resources to make quick headway.

Concern for backlash

Government and security sources say that so far the operation is going well. However, there are concerns that rising numbers of civilian casualties in a lengthening conflict may cause public and political backlash, and undermine the national support needed to succeed in Bajaur. The Jamaat-i-Islami, for one — which has a strong political base in Bajaur and has had close ties with Gulbadin Hekmatyar’s Hizb-i-Islami (which operates in Kunar) — has already launched a campaign against the operation.
For now, government and security officials are staying put and are determined to take the battle to what they call “its logical conclusion”.
To gauge the seriousness of this operation a brigade of the Pakistan Army has, for perhaps the first time, been placed under the command of the recently-posted Inspector General of Frontier Corps,** Maj-Gen Tariq Khan,** to ensure the unity of command and effectiveness.
The security forces are relieved by much-needed words of praise from an otherwise sceptical and suspicious American administration regarding the action in Bajaur. On Thursday, US Defence Secretary Robert Gates told reporters in Kabul that the US was “encouraged” by the security forces’ operation in Bajaur.

At home, meanwhile, important members of the political leadership have stopped expressing misgivings about the establishment’s intentions in terms of dealing with militancy; they acknowledge that this operation is for real.
“There is a change in their approach,” said a senior politician from the NWFP. “They seem serious. As to what caused this change of mind, we really have no idea.”

One view being expressed among political circles is that the gravity of the security threat to national integrity, crucial support from the current leadership and growing public mobilisation in Buner, Dir and Bajaur have together served as a shot in the arm for the military, enabling it to decisively take on the militants.

An additional fillip has been provided by the American administration’s upping of the ante. President George W. Bush’s July authorisation to permit operations in Pakistan’s tribal areas forced the army high command to come up with a strong reaction.

More importantly, the US commando raid in Angoor Adda made the top brass reiterate the commitment that they alone will take action on Pakistani soil, and Bajaur is the litmus test of this commitment. This has helped the government ‘own’ the operation as being driven by internal security concerns and has changed the perception that action was being taken under external pressure.
More aggressive approach

Bajaur, thus, may constitute the beginning of a more aggressive approach and strategy by Pakistan’s armed forces, backed equally by the political leadership.
The success of this approach may not only initiate the unravelling of the militants’ insurgency in the tribal region — though total elimination would take much longer and would require a host of other measures such as political, administrative and economic reforms — it may also restore to the state and its security forces much-needed credibility at home and abroad.
Equally crucial, however, would be the extent of the collateral damage, for that may tip the balance either way and cause the loss of local support to the government. Tribal support, therefore, would be of critical importance. The Salarzai and Utmankhel tribes have already risen against the militants, albeit for reasons of their own. But it would be the Mamonds, which constitute a stronghold of the militants, which could really tilt the balance in the government’s favour.

Analysts say that any failure, or the abandonment of the operation midway as occurred, for a variety of reasons, in South Waziristan, Darra Adamkhel and Swat, could potentially not only undermine the gains made so far in Bajaur, but could also cast a negative spell on the ongoing operations in Swat and elsewhere.

“Needless to say, such a situation would not only embolden the militants on the one hand, on the other it would give the cynics in Washington and Kabul an excuse to point to Pakistan’s lack of ability and political will to fight this war,” commented a seasoned observer.
Clearly, therefore, the Bajaur operation is being watched closely by policy-makers in the US, and may shape that country’s strategy vis-à-vis Pakistan and the tribal areas, Bush’s July authorisation notwithstanding.

The stakes are equally high for the militants in Bajaur which, after Waziristan, is perhaps the second most significant stronghold of the militants.
Militant leader Maulvi Faqir Muhammad is the deputy to Baitullah Mehsud’s Tehreek-Taliban Pakistan, whose fighters are not only waging a war against Pakistani security forces but are also involved actively in the ‘jihad’ in Afghanistan, particularly in the bordering eastern province of Kunar. Faqir Muhammad is known to wield a lot of influence over militants operating in Swat under Maulana Fazlullah, who draws strength and support in large measure from Bajaur.

Militants in the Mohmand tribal region would also be watching the operation in neighbouring Bajaur with a great deal of anxiety, since the triumphs and losses of their comrades in arms and ideology may also decide their own fate.
Having said this, however, much would depend on the strategy the government adopts in the post-operation scenario, to consolidate its grip over Bajaur in order to prevent the resurgence of the militants, and to introduce a rehabilitation package for hundreds of thousands of Bajauris.
Officials say that a one-time package of $7.2 million is ready for such an intervention, based mostly on commitments made by international donors. But the full success of the entire operation will also be determined by how quickly, efficiently and transparently this rehabilitation process is carried out and implemented.

Victory for either side may not be soon in the coming, but one thing is certain: it may largely determine the future course of events in Pakistan.

http://www.dawn.com/2008/09/21/top4.htm

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General Tariq with Sana Bucha on 26th April ,2009

Talk Show Crisis Cell 26th April 2009 - Friends Korner

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^^ nice video

Now this exposes hypocricy of US/coalition/Afghanistan. They always claim that militants take refuge in Pakistan and launch attacks on "foreign" forces in Afghanistan, but when militants from Afghanistan cross over into Pakistan to launch attacks against Pakistani army their eyes remain closed and they don't do anything to prevent that.

In that case they should put Jamat-e-Islami's leadership under strict observation, they should not be allowed to make contacts with Hizbe Islami... or may be just house-arrest senior JI leadership.

Last time as televised in this Aljazeera special with Omar Rageh…Gen. Tariq’s troops had to beat a hasty retreat with all their tanks and gunships between their tails, all in front of the global audience, exacting a fair bit of embarrassment on the part of their paymasters, Adm. Mullen et al…

I hope for the sake of Gen. Tariq’s poor minions, the foot soldiers, he and his hired mercenaries don’t repeat the performance of a few months ago…

[mod] Support for Taliban or condoning their actions is not allowed. Take this as serious warning[/mod]

Pakistan army is not trained or equipped for irregular warfare, but what matters is the end result here, not their (many) missteps. Also, this is not a popularity contest or battle of egos, something the talibs will never understand.

Maulvi Umer, the great Taliban sister and spokesmen had said that she would rather die then let Taliban lose control of Loesam in Bajaur. Loesam today is in Pakistani control and Maulvi Umer is alive and so traumatized that she has not come out of hiding since that time.

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these tribal idiots are only brave when they are hiding behind civilians and launching suicide bomb attacks against civilian populations. when their asses start getting kicked they bail in burqas. remember all the barking of mullah omar in afghanistan, when chitrol started he bailed..i mean for ppl who talk a lot of 'shahadat (martyrdom)" they sure dont avail the chances and go down fighting, they bail and hide..buncha wimps

Have a look at Bajour today, and one can see your donkey-goat-lover-beard-Taliban-monkeys don't even have tail left. What happened to so-called warriors of Islam ... didn't angels came to help them?

So how they won Bajour & now in Buneir? Army is not a name of a platoon or brigade. Their are hundreds of different brigade level-groups with different specializations of warfare.

No one in the world train their army fully for insurgency operations only. Their are thousands of Pak Army soldiers which are fully trained for following types of warfare:

Arctic warfare
Ski warfare
Desert warfare
Jungle warfare
Naval warfare or Aquatic warfare
Mountain warfare (alpine warfare)
Urban warfare

Have you seen the pictures? Entire town of Loesam is rubble now and they could only do this because the civilians had fled. In classic counter-insurgency you need to do house to house searches street by street, build relationships with the locals, provide them opportunities (or bribes) so they can help identify talibs and their supporters in the community. This is hard work and leads to many ambush situations, but without it, a long term solution is going to be very difficult.

I don't believe the army teaches any of it's units (except perhaps some SSG units) on relationship building with locals.

None of these involve counter-insurgency, which is a lot more then just urban or mountain warfare. They have gotten better at squad and platoon level engagements due to training for ambushes and MOUT, but the engagement with the locals and intel gathering aspect is missing.

main component of counter insurgency is policing which i think army would never learn as either it can be a policeman or a soldier as psyche of both are totally different therefore may be a separate unit need to be dedicated.

by the way i have great respect for him General Tariq and this was a good decision on behalf of Army high command to assign him the task as he and his unit are battle hardened and have gain enough experience in their bajaur, darra and mahmond campaigns.

it is battle of will not guns and powder or bravery and it is their will to fight not body which need to be destroyed.

i guess Army has been going rightway slowly and gradually cracking them , cracking their will, deny them enough space make them weary.

when you deny them space you slowly sucking the blood out of insugency because they wont be able to recruit, they had to be on the move always, they cant co-ordinate, slowly population would gain the confidence and come onto yoru side.
it would take atleast 2-3 years for full normalcy and major insurgency should be dead by end of this year.

How can this be miscontrued as support for Taliban...I just stated the facts, which are plainly corroborated in the video...

I guess there is no freedom of speech here and a homogenous party line, regardless of how farcical, fanciful and make belief that may be, has to be toed...

Go to Swat and express freedom of speech their,.. you are one messed up mind.. get a life !

Loesam is under who's control and who said they would rather die then lose control of Loesam but are still alive because that person ran way? End results are the bottom line, not you calling pakistani soldiers mercenaries as that description better suits talibans who get paid for every attack and kill.

Kid you were not watching Superman , Batman or spiderman while watching rageh omar on pakistan army.

if they had to retreat it was a move of a game may be they had wrong estimates , and why you forgot they went in again whereby a colonal lost his leg.

soldier is a human as well and i am even more happy seeing that portion atleast they were fighting with their brain in their head not in their as? so that they look big guys on video but loose 20-30 man.

yup where is that Bas???? Maulvi omar the spokesman who said he would rather die then surrender loesam..
i guess it has been surrendered long ago and he is hiding his as? along with maulvi faqeer , now this Maulvi faqeer is issuing decrees while hiding probably around swat to keep attention.

to be very frank these bastar?? were kept alive and portrayed as big by our media due to mushy and in last few weeks when coverage has been changed on them they are getting frustrated.