So Far 1300 Killed in Karachi This Year in Target Killings

Society Pakistan & World Affairs
101

Re: So Far 1300 Killed in Karachi This Year in Target Killings

Then the solution should be to round up the offices bearers of every political party and exterminate them.

102

Re: So Far 1300 Killed in Karachi This Year in Target Killings

^ badly needed ...

103

Re: So Far 1300 Killed in Karachi This Year in Target Killings

Stop being wussy and before you start crying like altaf bhai do lookup the meaning of wuss before ranting and babbling about your mqm victimization rant. its your party that kills, extorts people and acts like the victim in the end. Remember how MQM celebrated the 12th May anniversary claiming it was the victim? Well boohoo, it's dejavu here again.

Icon is right, last few times total disarmament the city was talked about, it was ONLY the terrorist MQM mafia that said no to it. ANP agreed wholeheartedly. This just proves who stands to lose the most in case of a scale down. And yeah, its time to exterminate the top leadership of the party and I dont give a rat's rear if some lyari boss or some ANP boss gets offed in the process; small price to pay to exterminate bigger leaders and for a good cause.

104

Re: So Far 1300 Killed in Karachi This Year in Target Killings

lol priceless, mention MQm and their toadies start yapping about how talking about the MQM, a terrorist party is racism whereas they refer to pathans as killers of millions... ironic isnt it?

105

Re: So Far 1300 Killed in Karachi This Year in Target Killings

Sir jee

When speaking against MQM become a racist issue, MQM is just a mafia claiming representing Mohajirs, but all not Mohajirs (including myself) belong to MQM.

By the way when we are talking about Korangi attack on Police Bus, peoples who aware of Karachi could say it safely this MQM area and high possibility that they are involve in this action.

106

Re: So Far 1300 Killed in Karachi This Year in Target Killings

Actually if you look at the situation. Few interesting things are taking place right now.

Is seem MQM is sevierlay under pressure.

Altaf Hussain and Gov of Sindh Ishrat Ul Ibad are British Citizen, GOP have no leverage over them but UK government has lot of.

If i am not wrong their UK citizenship could be revoke of they fund involve in terror activites (and by the MQM has designated terror organization in Canada).

Last week UK high comm meet Ishrat Ul Ibad, and Altaf Hussain tone down his rhetoric infect issue an apology for his earlier speech (asking poeple to save 30 days ration) in English (Obviously for consumption of their foreign Masters). And yesterday he also complain Zardari that Pakistani Agencies are given UK false information regarding MQM.

One must remember Zaalim is always coward, had you remember earlier old days when he was in Pakistan. Whenever things become too hot, when street of Karachi/ Hyderabad flooded with blood he never came out to be with his peoples. He used to checkin to Abbasi Shaheed Hospital that MQM issue press release about his serious condition seeking dua for his health.

Now he is living in relative safety of London, so no more checking into hospital dramas. But now it seems that he is in some pressure by UK government about MQM activites in Karachi.

I hope it would bode well for us, but please do not forget MQM is just one of the player in this blood bath. We must find a way to deal with all involve ANP as well as PPP criminal lyari mafia (and small bunch of religious terror organizations as well).

Todays MQM/ANP/Lyari mafia not fighting for their own peoples to protect and expend their own playgrounds, ordinary mohajirs/ sindhi, blouchies and Pashtoon has nothing to do with this. But unfortunatley they are the one paying the price with their tears and blood.

It is the time for us to stand up and tell these B....ds head of political mafias enough is enough lets break the pain/fear barrier and dump them in the dustbin of history.

The biggest problem we have there is no alternative leadership could help and to move ahead, Nawaz sharif is also tried and tested, he is relatively better then present lots but not good enough.

Imaran Khan is rising political star, i have lot of good expectation from him, but

1) politically he is not ready,
2) like all parties is party also a one man show, and we have seen enough one man show parties (Bhutto, Nawas Sharif, parties) results never come good.

Religious parties are no better, after what we gone through after creating and supporting religious parties, i rather go with a party with some religious values but secular agenda, with true democratic practice within party.

Who are they................................. not sure.

107

Re: So Far 1300 Killed in Karachi This Year in Target Killings

And thats where the problem lies, if any terrorist of LIYARI AMAN COMMITTEE got killed, PPP/Sindhies will say that Army have killed their INNOCENT Man, if terrorist of ANP got Killed, then ANP will say that, their INNOCENT man have got killed, if terrorist of MQM got killed then, MQM would claim that their men has been victim of Army brutality....

and then again Army would the target of all the three parties...

108

Re: So Far 1300 Killed in Karachi This Year in Target Killings

Let the people decide that if any of these parties is sincere with them or if these are the parties who are the part of the problem, remember if they are not the solution then they are the part of the problem, they have claiming to be the owners of Karachi and this is what they have done... killing and that is it... then they should be prosecuted by the people and the govt.... but what, these people have voted these killers in the govt... so who is going to prosecute them???

109

Re: So Far 1300 Killed in Karachi This Year in Target Killings

Malik’s latest statement; terrorists wets their pants

[TABLE=“width: 100%, align: center”]

Malik vows to deal miscreants with iron hands

Updated at: 0757 PST, Saturday, August 20, 2011
KARACHI: Interior Minister Rehman Malik has vowed miscreants would be dealt with iron hands, Geo News reported.

Talking to media after visiting police commandos who were injured in an ambush in Korangi, here at Jinnah Hospital, Interior Minister appreciated their courage and vowed to deal miscreants with iron hands.

He revealed that high-value target killers have been apprehended from Korangi.

Malik said miscreants attacked DIG East Naeem Baroka and police commandos’ bus after a terrorist identified as Bashar Bangali was arrested from Korangi.

Terrorist must be laughing and wetting their pants on the above joke of Marasi Malik

110

Re: So Far 1300 Killed in Karachi This Year in Target Killings


There are lessons to be learned from past operations.I believe people from all races are generally good people they become hostages in hand of so called arbitrators of their interests. As long as any action is fair, carefully targeted and without creating undue hardship to normal people it would be successful.But the usual problem is when army or police use long handle and start liquidating bad element without collateral damage though they earn silent support of population (no one would openly support due to fear of reprisal). They tends to loose this goodwill quickly by police using these as threat to extort money from innocent people.On Army might not extort money, but they tends to treat local population as hostile and that would cause resentment in population.Any operation should be swift and targeted, and they make sure they must not lose the war by losing hearts and minds. So far this is the largest failure of our security agencies, be it is valley of Swat , desert of Balochistan or City of Karachi.

111

Re: So Far 1300 Killed in Karachi This Year in Target Killings

My question is who is terrorist in Karachi?

The ANP thinks everyone who do not belong to them is terrorist and their men are only protecting them

Lyari Gang ( PPP) thinks that it is ANP and MQM who are targeting them and it is their men who are protecting them

MQM thinks that both PPP and ANP are targeting them and it is there men who are protecting them

So if army moves in, and target any or all of the MEN, then it will be a mantra stating that army have targeted innocent who have done nothing wrong but protected their people in bad times and then new movement to defame army and earn sympathy... whereas, rising new army won't be any problem for the three...

So the solution is not army but rectifying and giving full control to Police to ensure peace to which none of the three agrees.

112

Re: So Far 1300 Killed in Karachi This Year in Target Killings


Come on!Do you know police is fully politicized long away, 1000s of the MQM man inducted during musharraf era?It would take long time to purge the police and we are dying today?

113

Re: So Far 1300 Killed in Karachi This Year in Target Killings

In any case PPP has done the same thing, they put all Zardai guys on top position in Sind police.Are you aware that current IG Sind was one of the officer arrested and charged for Murtaza Bhutto murder?Do you really expect him to be impartial this time?

114

Re: So Far 1300 Killed in Karachi This Year in Target Killings

^^ So what can army do, they'll come, they'll clean and they'll leave ( in ideal scenario and thinking that no "Innocent" would be harmed) and then again the politician will bring in corrupt and criminal elements on top and then again 1000s will be killed and then again army to be called in??? when and how the cycle will stop???

115

Re: So Far 1300 Killed in Karachi This Year in Target Killings

Yes the cycle would be stopped, as people has suffered enough, hopefully when election take place without shedow of guns, they would make better choices without fear.In any case once army step in, it is not going to go back till the next elections, by then we should purge the police and let them take over.

116

Re: So Far 1300 Killed in Karachi This Year in Target Killings

^^ I think FC should be called in and city should in their control, where they should be doing the followings:

1) De-weaponize the city, anyone carrying weapons should shot at sight
2) Clean the city from Lyari, MQM and ANP gangs, kill any terrorist found on the spot, no judiciary can provide justice in war-torn or mafia-controlled cities
3) Arrest the policemen with dubious record and throw them behind the bars for good or just simply shoot them for sponsoring/supporting or taking part in massacare

in 10 days, there will be peace in the city.

117

Re: So Far 1300 Killed in Karachi This Year in Target Killings

Let me go remind you history of successful Karachi operation launched by Gen. Babar led by most up right police officer Dr. shoib Suddle.It was totally police led operation met with limited success, but also allow police to extort monies from innocent people by using threat of extrajuducial killing thus surrendering all gains back to MQM.When MQM gained power with general musharraf support, Dr. Shoeib Suddel and few lucky officers managed to get posted out of Sind.And rest of police officers who were involved in the operation, almost everyone were killed by "unknown" person one by one.After this great betrayal do you think police officers would do this again?

118

Re: So Far 1300 Killed in Karachi This Year in Target Killings

I know that and for that i would blame the corrupt political leadership, but we got rangers in Karachi for some reason? i forgot that reason can you remind why Rangers are in Karachi?

119

Re: So Far 1300 Killed in Karachi This Year in Target Killings

Only army can do it, because it is out side agency, their personal has no stake in the city, they have fear reprisal in government change.In any case army know how to protect it's people, politicians know that they could not mess with army.

120

Re: So Far 1300 Killed in Karachi This Year in Target Killings

^^ That is what exactly MQM and PPP looking for, they can bring in army, then play victim card on the lines i have stated earlier, then PPP and MQM supporters would be bombarding these forums with the threads defaming army and trying to prove that army is repeating 1971, you can see that in other cases as well.

MQM would be going back to its community saying, this PUNJABI army is no good, they have killed your loved ones and we are your only protectors, i still know many who tells me with the excitement that how MQM and its regional commanders drove army away from their areas.. and how MQM won sympathy

as far as PPP is considered they are asking for it, the only thing which can vote them back in power is sympathy, they are trying to be Syasi-Shaheed, because it would be easy to likes of Abadi, Fozia Wahab and Babar Awan to blame Takht--e-Lahore for all the bad things in the world...

No my friend bringing army in at this time would do more harm then good... Rangers are already their, they are 3rd party if they are corrupted then throw them out of the city, send them to the Afghan Border and bring in the FC....