was compared to a porn star or at least that’s what I made out of it.
Coming from the Divorced Desi Lady thread, how would you react if you find out that the Desi woman you are talking to has/had done 'Halala"
I am not talking about the way they show in Pakistani TV dramas these days but the proper “Halala” where both parties involved knew before the Nikkah that this for reconciliation. Scenario can be anything from a divorcee who had no children to a mother who got divorced in the midst of an anger management issue. You get the picture.
Bint_e_Naem, isnt it wrong to say that they way you just described above is the proper way? I mean this is not what Islam says in this part from my understand (I could be wrong about it). Can someone explain it a bit? Maybe I'm mixing it all up now. But I thought "halala" is a desi concept, like when you sort of plan ahead and then do it, while in Islam there is no such thing? But eventually if you've been divorced from second husband and wanna marry no. 1 again, you are allowed??
I don't understand how you're distinguishing between a proper or righteous halala and an improper one - what's the difference?
I think improper one is where 2nd marriage is done with intention of divorce.
While proper one is natural; The couple got divorced, the girl gets married without intention of getting divorced but ends up getting separated and now original couple gets together.
Bint_e_Naem, isnt it wrong to say that they way you just described above is the proper way? I mean this is not what Islam says in this part from my understand (I could be wrong about it). Can someone explain it a bit? Maybe I'm mixing it all up now. But I thought "halala" is a desi concept, like when you sort of plan ahead and then do it, while in Islam there is no such thing? But eventually if you've been divorced from second husband and wanna marry no. 1 again, you are allowed??
I think improper one is where 2nd marriage is done with intention of divorce.
While proper one is natural; The couple got divorced, the girl gets married without intention of getting divorced but ends up getting separated and now original couple gets together.
This is the proper thing ladies.
Halala isn't a punishment for divorced couple in the form of mubashara'at.
If any thing it make sure girl try another man.(to have life with) not just mubashara'at.
If she can't make it work then previous hubby and her right fully deserve each other ,
then they can go one and mubashara'at all they want.
Basically guy having used divorce...divorce..divorce hammer, girl is given a chance to find a better man.
There are half a million(or little less) examples when woman did halala, she did not want to move away from halala-hubby.
And the previous hubby left... you know..
In Islamic Halala concept, the second marriage should NOT be done with the intention of getting a divorce and then marrying the first husband. Allah has the knowledge of all our intentions and surely any such persons involved in a planned Halala will be punished. A Halala is considered correct ONLY if its done with pure intention of getting settled with the new husband and the marriage is cosummated. If the woman gets divorced from the second husband despite **all the attempts **to save the second marriage, she CAN marry the first husband if she received his marriage proposal again.
Even if a woman married the second time with true intentions of settling with the new husband, if somehow she gets divorced again and somehow she married the first husband again, people usually tend to think all this as a planned activity because of the presence of two main IFs.
IF the woman gets divorced from the second husband (a woman already divorced first time would try hard to save her second marriage if she married with true intentions)
IF the second time divorced woman gets the marriage proposal from the first husband to marry *again *(usually there is much bitterness between a divorced couple and if they still want to marry again after halala, it can show the possiblity of the planned halala).
I AM NOT saying that every Halala is planned. But people can tend to think its planned because of the above reasons and thus can think badly towards the woman who married second time, did or didn't consummate the marriage (if she didn't consummate, another big question mark on halala), got divorce again and remarried the first husband.
What are the chances of the non planned halala happening?! Not much .
And as for the planned Halala, well i remember watching a drama on it and it just made me think what kind of a bhegairat ex-husband or ex-wife would have their partner sleep with somebody else so that they can remarry. It just doesnt sit very well with me :nono:, no wonder why Islam has stressed on controlling anger because it makes us do things which we regret later and have to pay huge price for them.
I remember it happening “the unplanned way” in the drama Doraha. I think it was well written there.
Has anyone of you ever come across someone who did a planned halala? My family actually knows two families where it has taken place. one was relative old couple with grandchildren, the other was a young couple with one kid. In the later situation they were actually divorced for 5 years before they did the halala. I think in both cases the girl married a person from the family. Dont know if its to avoid consumation? or maybe just didnt want an outsider to marry the girl? Anyhow, very disturbing IMO.
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First up. Hi. Hope the chiro didn’t cripple anyone any more?
As for the thread (of substantial interest). The initial thought that came to mind, how many of us have come across a lady that has had one done? Speaking for myself, none. But even if there was one, she’d probably deserve the extra respect, kindness I’d think. To be a little on the naughty scale. If she likes my pretty thobra, there’s chemistry and she does an hijab/dupatta. I see no reason to not want to know more about the said lady.
I never used the word righteous in my post but by proper in the whole Halala context I meant divorced women who marry a man that knows that the Nikkah is short term so the woman can get remarried to their ex husband vs divorced women who along their ex husbands conspire to “phansao” a guy, marry him & somehow get him to divorce her so she can remarry the ex husband.
You’ll be surprised at how many people do “planned Halalas” where women are usually the victims meaning they are emotionally forced to do it.
Zareen unfortunately there are many beghairat husbands that make their ex wives go through this. Its no wonder Ghussa is Haram in Islam.
A lot of things are not Halal but people do them. Halalas are more common than we think they are. Its just most people won’t disclose it.
Bint_e_Naem, isnt it wrong to say that they way you just described above is the proper way? I mean this is not what Islam says in this part from my understand (I could be wrong about it). Can someone explain it a bit? Maybe I'm mixing it all up now. But I thought "halala" is a desi concept, like when you sort of plan ahead and then do it, while in Islam there is no such thing? But eventually if you've been divorced from second husband and wanna marry no. 1 again, you are allowed??
Sweetmoi in Islam there is no such thing as "Halala" it is indeed a Desi concept invented by our corrupt scholars & yes I am going to say some of them are corrupt to help divorced people get back together. But it does happen, hence my post. In the light of my thread I have already described the difference between a proper Halala vs a non proper Halala in my above post. Either way I want to know what people think of Desi women that do it. If you come across a regular woman who is otherwise a practicing Muslim (maybe not knowledgeable but otherwise a Namaz/Roza/Zakat observant) but circumstances in her life led her to do a "Halala" will you look at her differently?
I remember it happening "the unplanned way" in the drama Doraha. I think it was well written there.
Has anyone of you ever come across someone who did a planned halala? My family actually knows two families where it has taken place. one was relative old couple with grandchildren, the other was a young couple with one kid. In the later situation they were actually divorced for 5 years before they did the halala. I think in both cases the girl married a person from the family. Dont know if its to avoid consumation? or maybe just didnt want an outsider to marry the girl? Anyhow, very disturbing IMO.
Disturbing is a very small word. I know someone who did a planned "Halala" hence this thread. My judgement of that person hasn't changed much but wanted to hear from people here.
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Pir jee the city you live in does unfortunately have "Muftis" providing "Halala Services" & that too with the "consent" of their wives. Even mocking it won't make your post amusing as you think it sounds. Its a sad disgusting creation of the so called South Asian Pirs & Muftis.
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