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Jayzus, hit on anyone you like, I'm merely stating the fact that engagement isn't nikaah so we aren't a couple just yet. Kisi ki dukhti rag pe hath rakh dia to maafi.
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what a drag.
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^For further guidance on the 'halaal' activity...refer noorclinic.....u get solutions to possible ancilliary issues :@:
LOL. I came across that site randomly on Google (don't ask me what I was searching, I don't remember it myself :p) but I had a good laugh reading the stuff posted on there.
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And what would stop him not doing it after a divorce ?
Usually wives do not have to hit on their hubbies by txting them their nude photos as hubbies have seen things in real, so situation is more common amongst non-married couples than married ones.
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LOL. I came across that site randomly on Google (don't ask me what I was searching, I don't remember it myself :p) but I had a good laugh reading the stuff posted on there.
it is famous website.
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what if there are no children? :khums:
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Then even then I think once someone's been your wife, there's got to be some element of respect unless she was losing it herself doing stuff she shouldn't have been doin.
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and then engagement gets over because of a fight and next thing you know, the jerkass guy is posting the scantly clad pictures of his ex-fiance on flickr and putting slide shows on Youtube. The same pictures that she used to hit on him.
as someone said in earlier replies, you have to be careful till the relationship is official (wedding that is)
Come on...any dude who does that is a true lowlife and doesn't deserve to be married to anyone period.
Just because u were in a relationship that didnt work out for whatever reason, that doesnt mean one is allowed to do that whether it was engagement, marriage, or even a casual relationship.
Even if it was a casual relationship, the respect should still be there.
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Usually wives do not have to hit on their hubbies by txting them their nude photos as hubbies have seen things in real, so situation is more common amongst non-married couples than married ones.
I yet have to meet a girl - who sends /hits her fiancé by txting him her nude photos....
Tell me I live in some backward part of this world :)
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Maybe not a fiance in an arranged marriage. But does happen when its a girlfriend. The stuff I stumbled onto while my roomie was using my laptop… 
(his got stolen).
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I'm not saying this is what Islam says or anything so please don't go all molvi on me.
I think it's ok to talk before marriage with the intention of seeing if the couple is compatible. I would find it very strange if I'm not even allowed to have a conversation with the girl before marrying her. The important thing is to discuss all the uncomfortable stuff which couples in the West ignore: will someone stay home with the kids, whose career will take precedence or will you both take turns, religious views, how the kids will be raised, whether you will get your own place, how many kids etc. These things are usually ignored by people because it causes tension. If you meet, even alone, with the intention of finding out each others views, and discuss the topics mentioned above, then I see nothing wrong. I'm not advocating sex or anything, just talking. You talk with fellow classmates I'm sure, so I see no problem here.
If you really want to be strict, then you shouldn't have any contact with males period. That's an outdated way of thinking imo. So, IMO, SMS is ok. If you're really strict, then meet with someone from your family there. The couple can sit at one table at a cafe or something and have a parent sit with them or at another table. Do it like in the Godfather lol.
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Yup it does. Greg Oden, Rihanna, Vanessa Hudgens, Brett Favre (allegedly, although his situation is mad creepy) have all been caught sexting.
all the perves go google the people above
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:k:
On a side note…I think IMing is a drag and sooooooooooooooooo annoying. Texting gets old too after a bit. Why not just talk on the phone?
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Short talk OK but too much texting can become a problem.
Mistakes may happen or something maybe taken wrong way.
People do get carried away and let their guards down and then next possible thing , engagement is over for trivial reason.
Same thing happens with phone conversation all night long.
During engagement period everyone is edgy.
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This is why mutah exists.
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I yet have to meet a girl - who sends /hits her fiancé by txting him her nude photos....
Tell me I live in some backward part of this world :)
So you reckon any girl who is doing it should come confess to you? You might have met girls who send their fiances their nude photos and you don't know because you aren't supposed to.
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I think it’s very clear what’s allowed and not allowed Islamically. Whether you’re engaged or not, the same rules apply unless the nikkah has taken place. You’re not mahram for each other regardless of what you’re intentions are and are not supposed to be interacting without a third person involved in between (and the same rule applies to other mediums such as internet,phone,texting)
I’m not saying we are all animals and have no control over ourselves, but if you’re going to be factoring in what’s allowed in Islam, then understand that it’s as simple as that. No blurry lines whatsoever.
Having said that, texting and email etc., have become a part of our daily lives and are a very convenient way of communication and in most cases more preferred over meeting up physically. The best way would be to keep your conversations to a minimum over text and perhaps keep your phone out in the open so your sister or mother can have access to it. I’m not saying they should be spying on you or anything but I know a lot of people lock their phones and stuff which in itself could be ‘risky’. So maybe knowing that any family member can use your phone whenever will let you keep better tabs on yourself.
Other than that, if you are comfortable enough, forward/CC your emails to a close friend or sib or share your email password with your sib.
I use gmail to communicate with the guy I’m engaged to (hate using the word fiance for some reason) and my sister has my password. Of course I know she doesn’t check on our emails because gmail tells you when people log into your inbox, but it’s always reassuring to know someone else is ‘sort of involved’ even though she’s not watching over every word we say to each other.
I’m not saying what we are doing may be completely okay Islamically but it is the best arrangement we have been able to come up with so far.
I know we are all adults and know our boundaries and think we can control ourselves fairly well but maybe Mohammad saw foresaw something in his ummah that we don’t see in ourselves now when he said that whenever a guy and girl are alone, the third person is Shaitan. Now internet and phones may not have existed back then but we know exactly how all these mediums can be abused, so it’s best to watch out and apply the same rule regardless of which one of these you use.
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Even if it was a casual relationship, the respect should still be there.
I agree.
I yet have to meet a girl - who sends /hits her fiancé by txting him her nude photos....
just the first half of this sentence is also true for you.
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So you reckon any girl who is doing it should come confess to you? You might have met girls who send their fiances their nude photos and you don't know because you aren't supposed to.
You know - and I know - in fact we all know the segment of population we are taking in consideration here - they dont involve themselves in such activities ..
Just becuase of few odd examples - you can't label the whole population being guilty of the crime ..
And next time - try to be little polite and considerate when quoting / engaging yourself in a discussion .... IT WONT HURT :D
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how many examples ? 100 out of 100000 probably …