Re: Should India welcome all Pakistani minorities who want to leave Pakistan?
May be facts, but unless I dont know how, I cant be convinced, even by ur rock-solid grin. I again dare U to tell me how muslims are more tolerant than hindus, if U can do this by words, and not by sweet grin.
What make you think that muslim in general non tolerant of others....
Re: Should India welcome all Pakistani minorities who want to leave Pakistan?
What make you think that muslim in general non tolerant of others....
The plight of only nation on the world map formed in the name of Islam, for instance. U know that quiet well, dont U?
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they why blame gujrat riot on muslim culprits of godhra..?
because they are muslims....:D
No because both godhra and gujrat culprits are janwars, sorry to differ with U. and I really like ur grin. keep it up.
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The plight of only nation on the world map formed in the name of Islam, for instance. U know that quiet well, dont U?
Sames goes for secular india....
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No because both godhra and gujrat culprits are janwars, sorry to differ with U. and I really like ur grin. keep it up.
Then why you said that culprits of godhra are responsible for deaths of 3000 muslims?
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Who says about U? I said this about some ppls who selectively become naughty when caught on sticky wickets.
I was also saying it generally. I agree with your comments about sticky wickets.
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Sames goes for secular india....
Whatever floats ur boat, BJP men often tell me stories of guys like U, but I feel that they are a little minority in India, invisible. Keep educating urself on Indian issues, chances are U will come out of ur pre-concieved notions.
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Then why you said that culprits of godhra are responsible for deaths of 3000 muslims?
Because they were janwars just like other janwars who started killing innocent muslims in Gujrat.
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I was also saying it generally. I agree with your comments about sticky wickets.
Cheer up, we are on agreement on yet another issue.
Re: Should India welcome all Pakistani minorities who want to leave Pakistan?
I cant, because there is not any other secular country on world map which has as large a population as in India. And still India has to bear brickbats on its secular credentials. dont u feel that makes India a special destination for minorities? for muslims specially? this could be the reason behind Iqbal testifying to be the best in the world, u disagree?
And feel free to discuses with me, I see many things in U that our BJP friends regularly point out and keep us worried, and advocating for Indian muslims.
What turned Iqbal to come up with two nations theory and all that if he was that satisfied with minorities rights in India?
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Cheer up, we are on agreement on yet another issue.
koi baat nahin. Insaan hi insanon ke jazbaat samajhte hain :)
Re: Should India welcome all Pakistani minorities who want to leave Pakistan?
Whatever floats ur boat, BJP men often tell me stories of guys like U, but I feel that they are a little minority in India, invisible. Keep educating urself on Indian issues, chances are U will come out of ur pre-concieved notions.
really....
we have so many problems in india.....why bother about pakistan
we saw all secular india and indians on rampage at the time of Babri Mosque issue...
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Pakistan was not like this before...sectarian violence is result of saudi and Iranian proxy war,.....
this
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I dare U to speak up and discus. If Uf have guts to stand by what U speak.
I often complain to U for not answering to my questions while regularly questioning me. If U are able to discus. I outright tell U that U are lying on this issue that hindus are more tolerant than muslims. If U disagree, than talk if U can.
how come you conclude this notion that Hindus were / are more tolerant than Muslims? Muslims never termed Hindus as Maleechh
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Minority victimization is often tried to be done in India too, this is a fact, but it happens less often as in case of Gujrat about 11 years ago.
Criminals are sentenced in Pakistan too, this is a fact, But not criminals who are religious goons, as in India, Maya kodnani (A minister) and Babu Bajrangi, (a muslim hater) are cooling their heels in Jail. U must have noticed the difference. So Paksitan is still a safe heaven for religious goons, and high and mighty unlike in India.
And we are not superior to anyone, leave alone Paksitan.
I wont go into sectarian issue.
Dear, the point is, welcoming the minorities of Pakistan, right! So if minority victimization is often tried to be done in India too then why you persist welcoming other country’s minorities??? just because it happen "less often" in India then Pakistan? Although it is debatable that "minority victimization happens less often in India".
Re: Should India welcome all Pakistani minorities who want to leave Pakistan?
Dear, the point is, welcoming the minorities of Pakistan, right! So if minority victimization is often tried to be done in India too then why you persist welcoming other country’s minorities??? just because it happen "less often" in India then Pakistan? Although it is debatable that "minority victimization happens less often in India".
Mere bhai, first of all I raised my own doubts whether we can really welcome any oppressed minority at all, coz we are already overcrowded. All I said that India has hosted oppressed minorities in the past too , but right now we are not able to act accordingly owing to less resources available with us.
Minority victimization is often tried to be done not only in India, but its human nature to bully the fragile.
And I m always open to civil debates, u are more than welcome to open a thread and debate whether minority victimization happens less often in India, we will also debate whether any other nation can match our minorities, who can oppress majority too some times.
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how come you conclude this notion that Hindus were / are more tolerant than Muslims? Muslims never termed Hindus as Maleechh
Yeah, U raised a very valid point. How we ( muslims) can be termed less tolerant than hindus. I will be really glad in answering U but U have to decide whether u are ready to answer my questions in this regard just like I will answer each and every question raised by U.
So are we ready to GO?
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Yeah, U raised a very valid point. How we ( muslims) can be termed less tolerant than hindus. I will be really glad in answering U but U have to decide whether u are ready to answer my questions in this regard just like I will answer each and every question raised by U.
So are we ready to GO?
Go ahead
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Re: Should India welcome all Pakistani minorities who want to leave Pakistan?
What turned Iqbal to come up with two nations theory and all that if he was that satisfied with minorities rights in India?
Iqbal was indeed the best poet of this subcontinent, but he was a human too and prone to mistakes. I have met many pakistanis who admit the blunder that is called partition.
The real problem lye withmajority of muslims itself. They are so obsessed with their past. They feel that where ever they are in minority, they should impose Islam on majority to make their lives better. and where ever they are in majority, they use Islam only to kill their fellow muslim, declaring him or her as either a kafir or murtid. They would complain thousand times that see, hindus are so bad that they dont let us eat cow meat, but are open to devour riba. And Iqbal has himself written so much about hypocrisy of muslims.
What is the fuss all about? Muslims should learn Islam themselves first than start teaching it to others, is there something wrong in this statement?