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^ that was really nice.
Asking my parents to watch those kids is difficult, because I can't ask them or any other person to waite here all day until someone comes again to throw eggs or apples. Same kind of reasons why I'm not interested in doing that.
The person whose picture I took, became angry even before I took the photo. I first asked him if he saw those kids throw eggs, he admitted he had seen them and that they had ran away after throwing those eggs. But when I asked him to testify about that, just tell the police that he saw them do that, then he became angry. He refused help, I asked him to do it some other time, whenever he can. He still refused and became angry when I asked him. So then I took a picture, to show the police that there is a witness and how that witness looks like, since my own neighbours say they "didn't notice". He's the only person who had admitted seeing those kids do that, and then he refused to testify. I took the picture hoping that he would be easily recognised and asked to say what he saw, it would only take a few minutes, it's only about kids throwing eggs. But he became more angry after I took his picture, which I do understand.
I've decided one thing, from now on, I'm not going to be helpful either to my neighbours. If they ever want me to testify for something, I'm not going to help them either. I will honestly tell them, I did notice, if I see something being done to them, but I will refuse to testify for them just like they lie now that they 'didn't notice' those yelling and cheering children Saturday! And many times they threw eggs and apples at my home, it was visible and audible for everyone. Now that I've told my neighbours about how impossible it is that they could "not have noticed" those children with all the noise they kept making almost all day when they kept throwing apples and eggs at us, now suddenly those children are silently throwing eggs at my home again, so someone must have told those children that now they should again silently throw those eggs and then run away instead of cheering and yelling like they did Saturday. Those kids have been obviously warned.
Moving away is difficult, my parents could help me, a few years ago I had moved in with them when I returned to Schiedam from Apeldoorn. It wasn't easy, there wasn't much room. I want to keep my own appartment. Besides, yesterday my children and I were talking about how much trouble it took me to paint everything and how only now, since living here from 2004, only now my appartment is really done. I don't want to give up another appartment because of negative neighbours.
They throw eggs and apples, let them. I'm not cleaning them up. All Saturday everyone was waiting and expecting my children and me to come outside angrily and upset, instead I kept laughing at them whenever they rang the doorbell. Not once did I show them anger. They were all surprised why I didn't become angry and why their plan to argue with me failed. I will remain myself, never had I arguments in any neighbourhoods where I lived. Not even in my own neighbourhood here now, kids and people argue with me, once in a while I say something back, that's it. They like to argue, let them argue while I do what I did all my life, not react, let them and enjoy my books. Only thing I do about it is, tell the police to see if they can help me.
I had problems with neighbours leaking deliberately the tires of my bike, more than once when I lived in Apeldoorn. I had some neighbours there who were unfriendly and wouldn't allow us to do things that every other neighbour did do. That's the only other neighbourhood where neighbours were unfriendly. But not all of them, I had a few kind neigbours in Apeldoorn as well. Some of them told me which person kept leaking the tires of my bike. They were helpful. I hadn't argued with my neighbours there either, I didn't know them, they were just being unfriendly without any reason from my side. That's the only other neighbourhood, but at least there were a few kind helpful neighbours there, telling me which people they saw leak my tires.
Here the neighbours see and know what's happening and then refuse to testify and refuse to say something. Well, one neighbour pulled those two women off me when they were beating me up on my kitchen floor, I was thankful for that! But later, when I asked him to testify he had also seen that and what those women looked like whom he had pulled off me, he refused, he was vague and didn't want to tell the police when I asked him. I wonder if the police had asked him about it, because I had told them that the neighbour downstairs had pulled those women off me. But why did he refuse to testify when I asked him? I don't understand that.
I've never had fights before with neighbours. I was very friendly here and even tried to have conversations with people in my neighbourhood and my childrens school, when I just moved here. They were surprisingly unfriendly, even the pakistanis whom I had known from my childhood days, even they were unfriendly. I don't understand.
In my neighbourhood where I grew up, I never had any argument with anyone. In Apeldoorn I never argued with my neighbours, yet some of them were unfriendly and after being harrassed and insulted for a while, eventually I had to open my mouth to say something about it. And now here, I didn't argue with anyone either. When people remained unfriendly, I just ignored them. The few times I said something, was when kids kept beating up my son. When my son does something, I tell him it's wrong and even punish him, when they do something and I ask them about it, their parents become angry, when I then ask the parents to talk to their children so they will leave my son alone, the parents here still become angry. Strange people. In 2007 and 2008 I for the first time had decided to do something myself then, protect myself and my children. Here it doesn't work and everyone only keeps blaming me. I just ignore them again. They aren't even worth the sand on my shoes.
If the police does something about it, then oké. If they won't do something, then I know for sure that every one has permission to harass us. But my neighbours won't get what they want, fighting with my son will become more difficult for them, because he will be with my brothers and my Dad in the market. And I'm going to accompany my son to school next year. Fighting with me is always difficult, because I usually don't react at all.
It was a bit funny even to hear those children get angry when my son and I kept refusing to come outside. Those kids won't get what they want. They became upset when I kept laughing everytime they rang the doorbell and they also became upset when my children and me remained calm and in our homes and just continued doing whatever we were doing first. That's the best solution I think. Not trying to do something about it, I tried that in 2007 and 2008, didn't help either.
People always become angry when they try to fight with me and I don't react. It also means they are nothing but the sand under my shoes. I try to teach my son not to react, it's more difficult for him then for me and my daughter. First year, she was harrassed here, the girl downstairs kept pushing her, even at school, she kept trying to fight my daughter, she tried to fight with my son by taking his bike from him, that first year, I didn't react and I kept telling my daughter, to remain calm and not react. After almost a year, that girl stopped trying to start a fight with my daughter, she's even nice to her now. There were some other children who tried to fight with my daughter too, but she took my advice and ignored those children as well, and now they leave my daughter alone. For my son, it's more difficult to ignore people who insult him or kick and push him.
But this Saturday, when those kids had beaten him up and afterwards there were kids in front of our home asking my son how he had liked being beaten and they kept laughing at him, I took him to our balcony and told him to remain calm and ignore those beasts, I kept telling him 'remain calm' 'don't look at them, ignore them' and then my son and I were talking and laughing about movies and games and he managed to ignore them! They were angry when my son ignored them! It was easy for my son because I was there talking and laughing with him, but normally when they insult him and laugh at him, he becomes angry and then they get what they want. One of them was even riding the bike they stole from my son. But I already knew, if we would have gone after the, just like in 2007 and 2008 only we would get the blame, besides, he would ride away and we wouldn't get that bike back anyway.
My experience is to ignore them, that angers them even more. In 2007 and 2008 I didn't ignore and tried to defend myself and my children, but then they still blamed us and even enjoyed seeing me react. Now I'm back to my own self, not reacting and they don't like that. I noticed that especially this Saturday when those children who kept ringing my doorbell and cursing became angry when I just laughed at them and remained calm.
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why are these people doing this? why are they calling u such names? is someone spreading bad things about you and ur family?
how can seeing their mum get beaten up be good for any child? i dont understand why this is happening to you... arent there any support groups that can help you?
**Notorious **
If this was a minor issue, then many of us here would agree with you that **“ignoring” **would be a better solution. But the reason why several of us dont’ support this view is because it’s unreasonable…considering the extent of abuse..
Nobody is encouraging that your son should hit the children back. But there are other ways of “fighting”. Look at examples in history. African Americans were treated like dirt by the whites in the US. And sometimes they tried to “ignore” “look away” “avoid”…and sometimes that ENRAGED the oppressors so much that they would actually KILL the victim.
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No, my intention is not to scare you.** But God Forbid…one day your son gets pushed/hit/kicked a little too hard…and the injury becomes serious…or even fatal??? Have you ever thought about that???
Is your mantra about “being patient and ignoring” worth the life of your child? What if something horrible happens to him tomorrow…(God Forbid)…and nobody will come forward to admit that they were the guilty ones.
How LONG are you going to walk your son to school??? Right now he’s young and he may not mind being walked to school by Mommy. But after a while…he might find it embarrassing to be walked to school by his mom. He might feel that it makes him look like a baby.
LOOK SILLY WOMAN…your son will eventually have to return from his visit to Pakistan and deal with those bullies again. And you’re complaining about the hassle of “FIXING A NEW APPARTMENT”???
DO YOU EVEN HAVE YOUR PRIORITIES IN THE RIGHT ORDER???What is more important to you? The safety and well being of your children…or the stress of resetting a new apartment ???
Why should your young children be DEPRIVED from going outside and having fun??? Why should they have to suffer inside at home all the time? Kids need time fresh air and outdoors exercise as well. Why rob them of their childhood simply because YOU REFUSE to make a call to social services…and simply because YOU DON’T WANT TO REARRANGE A NEW APARTMENT. Please think about this!
well said :k: :k:
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Oh and another thing..............the reason why your neighbors are TERRIFIED of testifying is because they don't want those idiotic kids to do the same crap to them.
That's why it was suggested that you get a trusted friend or relative who does NOT live in your area to witness the abuse if possible.
And be reasonable here woman. That photograph that you took.........is not even that CLEAR! You can't even see the man's face that clearly in that pic. And here you are wasting your time complaining about a useless picture. You need to take BETTER photos..........of the ABUSERS in action. Or get a family member to witness. I dont think that your parents would mind coming to your house to check things out a few days of the week. They are your parents, they value your safety. Yes, it's a hassle, but not one that they would compromise. And consider visiting social services if not the police.
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^ besides that, u cant take a pic of a person who doesnt want their pic taken. There is no way the person will testify
good job redvelvet :k:
notorious, u need to get social services involved. If the police arent listening to you, maybe they’ll listen to a proper association..
this is highly highyly unfair on ur kids… this is no way a normal life for them to lead.
All very true. But it takes at least a year to get a new appartment. The victory will be of the harrassers if they manage to bully us away. I want to live here, happily despite of the things they try. I’ve noticed how they hate it when my children and me are happy.
Yes, it’s not nice for children to be harrassed, I have experienced that myself as a child. Only when I was 16 I had more friends, it was the first time in a school that nobody insulted me for my shalwar kamiez and I even got many friends there. I didn’t want my own children to have the same problems, so I had bought western clothes for them to fit in. I want my children to have friends and a nice life. But what use is it, when the neighbourhood is negative?
I could move away right now to my parents home. But then it would take one or two years to get a new appartment. And I don’t have energy anymore to buy everything again and to do everything again. I had just finished my appartment in Apeldoorn when I left there, it didn’t solve my problems. I regretted afterwards for leaving that appartment. I don’t want to make the same mistake. Inside my home, we’re happy. When we go somewhere, we’re happy. It’s only here in my own neighbourhood that my son can’t even go buy something without being beaten up by those kids, like last Saturday. It’s only here in my own neighbourhood that my son gets harrassed when he wants to play in the playground or in our street.
So he can have a life outside our neighbourhood. This Saturday his life outside our neighbourhood is starting. Those kids hate it when we remain calm and happy and ignore them. That’s the best thing to do .
And the police should do something about it too, since the parents of those children aren’t doing anything. I could go to social services for help, but I wonder if they will help me, even believe me. I have a contact person there, who told me I could always ask his help in case of trouble. But would he believe me? I hesitated. Maybe I should try to talk to them as well.
I can’t do anything more about it. I’m going to take your advice though and try to talk to social services about it. I don’t think they will do something about it though, if they even believe it is questionable. When I told people those two women beat me in my own home, I wasn’t believed either. Those kids were afterwards laughing at my children, ‘haha, your mother was beaten up, how did she like it?’ things like that. But when I tried to seriously talk about it, I wasn’t believed by many people. So then I wonder if I really could do something.
If I move away, it’s not just having to take all our belongings to another place and having to paint another appartment, it’s also going to be the happiness and victory of the people who have been harrassing us in this negative neighbourhood. I’m not giving them the happiness of harrassing me away, I made that mistake when I was in Apeldoorn, I’m not making that mistake again. Also they won’t get the happiness of getting me angry or sad.
I’m not staying here for the rest of my life though. I’m going to find a new home. But calmly. Not immediately, that would only make those harrassers happy. I’m calmly staying here. I’m going to teach my son to treat those kids like dirt on our shoes by ignoring them. I did however tell him to fight back when they start hitting him. He has my permission, to fight back when they really hit him, kick him. But he shouldn’t fight anymore if they push him, that doesn’t really hurt and until now, whenever he pushed back or hit back, even at school a few times, the teachers believed the other kid who had started and my son got the blame for starting a fight, while the other kids had begun pushing him. So I advice my son to ignore those beasts, and only if they really beat him or kick, to fight back. It’s difficult though for him.
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woah.... i dun understand why they are callin u whore and doin such bad things... is there ANYTHING u said or did that is causing these prbs? cus i seriously dun understand how anyone can treat sumone this badly when they have done nothin at all. if u r a silent neighbour who minds his/her own business, dunsnt socialise much with neighbours then y do they hate u only?? why dun their parents stop them frm doin this.. racism is one thing but wot these kids are doin, it seems there is more than wat meets the eye and we need to find the root of the whole prb. goin to pak wud certainly not help but keepin ur kids inside lest they will b bullied and hurt wudnt either. u need to balance out both and find a way in which u DUN leave holland YET u live a peaceful happy life.
u sound, i m sorry to say, a bit childish cus u r worryin abt this house that uve been building since 2004... who cares abt the damn house... woh ghar hi kya jis mein sokoon na ho! why dus one live or build a house... to live in it peacefully, to feel safe, to relieve ur self of all the fatigue and stress. think abt it. some of the posts are harsh here like maybe mine and RV. but in the end they all wanna help u. they care for u. pls read RV's advice v v carefully and think deeply why this is all happening to u? i doubt ppl hearin stories abt u wud evoke such negative sentiments and reactions. cus hey its europe, and europeans are the most 'bayhuda' and 'besharam' country i have seen. they dun care whether ure whore, a prostitute, whatever.. so why r they caring in YOUR case???
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i dont think its about victory.... it should be about the safety of ur kids. And nothing else
contact the social services ASAP rather than doubting what they believe or dont believe.
All very true. But it takes at least a year to get a new appartment. The victory will be of the harrassers if they manage to bully us away. I want to live here, happily despite of the things they try. I've noticed how they hate it when my children and me are happy.
Yes, it's not nice for children to be harrassed, I have experienced that myself as a child. Only when I was 16 I had more friends, it was the first time in a school that nobody insulted me for my shalwar kamiez and I even got many friends there. I didn't want my own children to have the same problems, so I had bought western clothes for them to fit in. I want my children to have friends and a nice life. But what use is it, when the neighbourhood is negative?
I could move away right now to my parents home. But then it would take one or two years to get a new appartment. And I don't have energy anymore to buy everything again and to do everything again. I had just finished my appartment in Apeldoorn when I left there, it didn't solve my problems. I regretted afterwards for leaving that appartment. I don't want to make the same mistake. Inside my home, we're happy. When we go somewhere, we're happy. It's only here in my own neighbourhood that my son can't even go buy something without being beaten up by those kids, like last Saturday. It's only here in my own neighbourhood that my son gets harrassed when he wants to play in the playground or in our street.
So he can have a life outside our neighbourhood. This Saturday his life outside our neighbourhood is starting. Those kids hate it when we remain calm and happy and ignore them. That's the best thing to do .
And the police should do something about it too, since the parents of those children aren't doing anything. I could go to social services for help, but I wonder if they will help me, even believe me. I have a contact person there, who told me I could always ask his help in case of trouble. But would he believe me? I hesitated. Maybe I should try to talk to them as well.
I can't do anything more about it. I'm going to take your advice though and try to talk to social services about it. I don't think they will do something about it though, if they even believe it is questionable. When I told people those two women beat me in my own home, I wasn't believed either. Those kids were afterwards laughing at my children, 'haha, your mother was beaten up, how did she like it?' things like that. But when I tried to seriously talk about it, I wasn't believed by many people. So then I wonder if I really could do something.
If I move away, it's not just having to take all our belongings to another place and having to paint another appartment, it's also going to be the happiness and victory of the people who have been harrassing us in this negative neighbourhood. I'm not giving them the happiness of harrassing me away, I made that mistake when I was in Apeldoorn, I'm not making that mistake again. Also they won't get the happiness of getting me angry or sad.
I'm not staying here for the rest of my life though. I'm going to find a new home. But calmly. Not immediately, that would only make those harrassers happy. I'm calmly staying here. I'm going to teach my son to treat those kids like dirt on our shoes by ignoring them. I did however tell him to fight back when they start hitting him. He has my permission, to fight back when they really hit him, kick him. But he shouldn't fight anymore if they push him, that doesn't really hurt and until now, whenever he pushed back or hit back, even at school a few times, the teachers believed the other kid who had started and my son got the blame for starting a fight, while the other kids had begun pushing him. So I advice my son to ignore those beasts, and only if they really beat him or kick, to fight back. It's difficult though for him.
Sometimes it's not about ego and victory woman! You can't compromise your children's happiness and well being just to claim your victory.
It might take a year to get an apartment. However try meeting in person (NOT ON PHONE) with a social worker. They might have more compassion than the idiotic police. They might be able to pull a few strings and find you a better place to live in.......in a shorter amount of time because you are in a EMERGENCY situation and exceptions can sometimes be made in special cases. And if not that...........then they might take SEVERE action against those children and their parents.
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in response to ur post for RV... pls pls u gotta stop thinkin immaturely. why do u even care that they will think they defeated u or somethin if u move out? TO HELL WITH THEM WOMAN!! do u want ur safety, ur kids peace of mine or this bloody neightbourhood's defeat? as RV said u need to definitely organize ur priorities... u dun wanna leave the house, u dun want ur kids to face those bullies.. so wat do u want? i mean, whats the point of showin them u r calm or whatever. u know and THEY know that they have made ur life utterly miserable and that u r confined to ur homes becus of them. they even ENJOY that. dun think by keepin silent and not reacting u r irritating them. they very well know how any sane person, no matter what reaction, wud internally b so so hurt. they know they are killin ur soul...
i dun understand how u take ur kids out and all that u mentioned when these bullies are around? maybe u r just livin in a fool's paradise... WAKE UP HONEY... DO URSELF AND UR KIDS A FAVOUR.... MOVE ON!!!
If the neighbours don't testify, at least they could have aknowledged what had happened in front of me, like some of the neighbours in Apeldoorn did. Those neighbours didn't go to the police either, they had told me honestly that they were afraid to get in trouble with the neighbourhood themselves.
Here, the neighbours could have at least told me, at least acknowledged in front of me. I would have considered that as support. I would have understood.
But you're right, that picture is no use of the witness and he probably will deny having seen those kids. I can't take better pictures, they now quickly come, throw an egg and run away. That's what they did yesterday.
When my Dad and brother were trying to help my son last time, the parents of that child whom my Dad did not even touch, but only wanted to ask to leave my son alone, those parents started to fight both my brother and my Dad! Perhaps they could try to see what's going on here, I told them about the egg throwing too, and they said, the only reason people dare to do this, is because they see I'm alone. Also the kids of course noticed how the grownups from the first day I came to live here, were unfriendly to me, not greeting back and having a conversation with me, etc. so that was also another reason for them to harrass us, knowing that nobody would protect us. So now I'm not alone, I'm going to be regularly with my parents and brothers.
I could ask my parents to sit here and try to see those kids, perhaps take better pictures than me, but they are in the market and my mother sometimes get's tired. I'll try and ask them though. Perhaps they can do it.
And I'll talk to social services then. See what happens.
i dont think its about victory.... it should be about the safety of ur kids. And nothing else
contact the social services ASAP rather than doubting what they believe or dont believe.
Maybe you're right.
I'm going to talk to social services, see if they believe me or not... And will moving away help?
In Apeldoorn they became unfriendly without any reason, here from the first day I moved here people were unfriendly without any reason.
I wish I knew what's going on. One of my fears is that it won't be any different in another neighbourhood. But perhaps you're right, maybe I should try it one more time.
in response to ur post for RV... pls pls u gotta stop thinkin immaturely. why do u even care that they will think they defeated u or somethin if u move out? TO HELL WITH THEM WOMAN!! do u want ur safety, ur kids peace of mine or this bloody neightbourhood's defeat? as RV said u need to definitely organize ur priorities... u dun wanna leave the house, u dun want ur kids to face those bullies.. so wat do u want? i mean, whats the point of showin them u r calm or whatever. u know and THEY know that they have made ur life utterly miserable and that u r confined to ur homes becus of them. they even ENJOY that. dun think by keepin silent and not reacting u r irritating them. they very well know how any sane person, no matter what reaction, wud internally b so so hurt. they know they are killin ur soul... i dun understand how u take ur kids out and all that u mentioned when these bullies are around? maybe u r just livin in a fool's paradise... WAKE UP HONEY... DO URSELF AND UR KIDS A FAVOUR.... MOVE ON!!!
I didn't realise that. I thought by not doing what they obviously want, I could eventually stop them. I don't want their harrassments to work. I thought if they would see nothing they do is working to anger us or sadden us, then perhaps they will stop one day.
I keep myself happy by books and I tried to find different ways so my son could continue playing outside, like letting him play in a different neighbourhood where one of his friends lives, but those bullies noticed he went a few streets further to play there, so then last week they came to that street, just to harrass him, while usually they never play there. They started to argue. So that didn't help either. I just bought computers for my children, games, I try to keep them happy with internet too, and take them somewhere in town every few months whenever I can afford it.
That's how we have survived until now. I stopped asking friends to come to visit us when after almost a year had passed and still none of them came. Sometimes once or twice a year someone comes here. That's it. The first year I was so lonely, I kept trying to make friends in this neighbourhood, I kept asking my friends to visit me or to meet each other in town, have fun, but nobody came, so I got used to it. Now I'm not used to people anymore. I couldn't ask any friend to see who throws eggs and apples at my home...
I'm going to try to move one more time, if they do the same things in that neighbourhood as well. I give up.
Maybe you're right.
I'm going to talk to social services, see if they believe me or not... And will moving away help?
In Apeldoorn they became unfriendly without any reason, here from the first day I moved here people were unfriendly without any reason.
I wish I knew what's going on. One of my fears is that it won't be any different in another neighbourhood. But perhaps you're right, maybe I should try it one more time.
You need to do some research on the internet. And find the ADDRESS of your local SOCIAL SERVICES agency. And then you need to GO PAY THEM A VISIT! In my opinion it would be best if you take your CHILDREN with you to the agency. Let them see your kids.........because it will become HARDER for them to ignore the plight of children. And it will be a LEARNING EXPERIENCE for your children. Your children need to learn that there are organizations that they can turn to for help and that hitting back or ignoring are not the only ways to solve a problem...........there are professional associations out there.
Would moving be the worst thing to do? NO! Do you realize that tolerating this abuse can affect your kids in many ways. It could potentially develop passive aggressive behavior in your son........it can cause them to resent MOMMY in the future because her apathy and pride prevented them from having a peaceful childhood. Also, it can affect their studies. Does your son really need to lose his concentration in school because he's too worried about what will happen to him when the school bell rings for end-of-the day dismissal.
Childhood is such a BRIEF time period and it should be a joyful and carefree one. This period will pass so quickly. Why deprive your kids of that? I vaguely remember (correct me if I'm wrong) you saying your childhood was tough. So why put your kids through this. They've done all the strategies you've told them to follow. Now it's time for you to do your part as a parent.
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I apologize for sounding annoyingly redundant. BUT PLEASE DON"T HANDLE SUCH SERIOUS MATTERS WITH THE SOCIAL WORKER ON THE PHONE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
FACE TO FACE MEETINGS HAVE A GREATER EMPHASIS. TAKE YOUR KIDS WITH YOU TO THE AGENCY. AND ALLOW YOUR KIDS TO TELL THE SOCIAL WORKERS WHAT THEY HAVE SUFFERED. IT JUST ADDS EMOTIONAL IMPACT TO YOUR CASE.
Well, when I showed my children that we would fight back, I opened my mouth and told those children to leave my son alone. They all laughed at me and were angry with me. Even people who just lived there, they were all angry at me for telling those kids to stop beating my son! And afterwards I was beaten up by two women who one of those kids had brought with him to my home, then when I tried to talk about that, nobody believed that!
So I went outside with a langree, because that's strong enough to hold back any more beasts who want to beat me up. I took that outside, and went to the play yard with my children. So they could play without being harrassed.
In the end, the situation did'n't get better. They still harrassed my children. I wasn't taken seriously when I asked help in this matter, when I tried to talk about how they beat me up after I only asked to leave my son alone, so then it makes me wonder. Is it any use... Even my children were frustrated when nobody helped us. My son came home often frustrated, telling me how again another child at school had begun fighting and when he had done something back, the teacher didn't believe that the other child had started.
But I'll talk to social services.
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stop wondering! just do it before anymore serious damage is done.. please
I don't know if they will listen to my children. After my children had seen me being beaten up in my own appartment, they were shocked. They didn't know what to do. I took them to the police station immediately after it had happened. I wanted my children to tell the police what they had seen. But the police wasn't interested in what my children had to say. They said I should leave the children out of this, I was surprise, since my son was beaten up more than once by the child who had brought those women to my home and also a surprise because my son had seen one of those woman starting to beat me and then my daughter came to see why I was screaming and she also to her shock saw me being beaten up. Both my children already were involved, so it was very stupid and strange actually when the police told me my children should stay out of it and she refused to let my children tell her what they had seen!
I'm going to the social services, ask them to also hear my son. I hope they won't refuse like the police did, when I had taken them to the police station with me.