You're not a professional chef though. So it's easier for you to say that anyone can have my recipe and call it their own. A professional chef may not appreciate someone calling their recipe "their own."
There is a reason for things like patents and copyrights in the business field. An author might not have produced a new concept for his novel but he protects himself through copyrights and there are penalties for those who copy his works and "pass it as their own." It's called plagiarism. Confidentiality contracts which penalize for disclosure such as those DW uses in her business are not a strange or shocking concept. The point I am trying to make is that aam duniya main it may not matter if people share things and pass it as "their own"....but in the professional world such risks and occurrences are seen as a bigger deal. Some chefs share;some don't. Is liye agar koi professional chef nahi batata recipe, yeh koi ajeeb ya hairaan-kun wali baat nahi hai.
RV * I Know* I'm NOT a professional chef, also I never say I cook better or anything,
as Proto said here we are discussing about general not professional chefs or anything,
my naani is very much famous for making so many things,and without any packet masala,I just asked her why do you share recipes,they should be your secret she said * tou Kia Howa,orten Ghar Mai bana ke bacho ko Ghar walo ko khilaye gi!sawab ka kam hai recipe share karna ya achi bat kisi ko Batana ya seekhana *
RV * I Know* I'm NOT a professional chef, also I never say I cook better or anything,
as Proto said here we are discussing about general not professional chefs or anything,
my naani is very much famous for making so many things,and without any packet masala,I just asked her why do you share recipes,they should be your secret she said * tou Kia Howa,orten Ghar Mai bana ke bacho ko Ghar walo ko khilaye gi!sawab ka kam hai recipe share karna ya achi bat kisi ko Batana ya seekhana *
Go read my post again. Did I say that you think of yourself as a better cook than trained chefs? Nope, I never said that. The only reason why I told you that you're not a professional chef is to highlight that such reasoning cannot be used to justify that a professional chef should not have any reservations about sharing their market-success recipes.
Sawab kamanay k aur bhi bahut ways hain. Aik professional chef ka poora ya maximum sawaab aik hit-recipe k share karna main nahi hai. Even if a chef does not share their hit-recipe with people, the fact that they are earning a halaal living and spending those earnings on their loved ones and on sadaqah and zakaat....is a means of sawaab for them. If a professional chef is greeting their customers with a smile, if they are showing kindness to their customers in other ways, if they are treating their staff with fairness........these are all ways of earning sawab through your trade/career/talents. There are many ways to show kindness and big-heartedness. There are many ways to get barkat and sawab.
This is so funny. You people are arguing for no reason at all. I will write a detailed post later from computer, at the moment driving and seeing this from phone, but gist of everything is, like RV said; some Chefs share and some don't. There's different reasons behind that. I can't type it down right now, but I definitely will. To each their own.
If someone wants to share their recipe, it is fine. If someone doesn't, that shouldn't be an issue either. I have no idea why people are getting riled up for no reason at all. If someone wants to ask me any recipe apart from the ones I use at the restaurant, I will more than gladly share them and the tips too.
However, I will not share any secret recipes or trade secrets. Enough said. I have my friends on this forum and before I have PM'd people recipes too. I gave someone recipe for Patisa. Someone recipe for Chicken Pasta etc. I like to help people and share. But not when it comes to business.
You Again missed my point. I said here we are NOT discussing professional chef.or may be OP meant to ask from professionals too.but we are also discussed general..why you are keep emphasis on professionals only???
Also I wrote * I just* asked.because after reading this thread I wanted to ask my naani why she share her recipes why not keeping it secret?that was her reply which I wrote here
I never want her to keep secret.even sometimes I make pics step by step to show relatives or someones who asked for them.
Go read my post again. Did I say that you think of yourself as a better cook than trained chefs? Nope, I never said that. The only reason why I told you that you're not a professional chef is to highlight that such reasoning cannot be used to justify that a professional chef should not have any reservations about sharing their market-success recipes.
Sawab kamanay k aur bhi bahut ways hain. Aik professional chef ka poora ya maximum sawaab aik hit-recipe k share karna main nahi hai. Even if a chef does not share their hit-recipe with people, the fact that they are earning a halaal living and spending those earnings on their loved ones and on sadaqah and zakaat....is a means of sawaab for them. If a professional chef is greeting their customers with a smile, if they are showing kindness to their customers in other ways, if they are treating their staff with fairness........these are all ways of earning sawab through your trade/career/talents. There are many ways to show kindness and big-heartedness. There are many ways to get barkat and sawab.
Exactly. Your nani was not a professional chef but phir bhi you told her to keep her recipes a secret even though she gains no profit from her skills and hard work. Phir to tumharay liye koi mushkil nahi honi chahiye yeh samajhnay main aur accept karne main ....k jis bandi ne khoon paseenay se aik business start kia hai....aur woh is business main abhi nayi nayi hai aur is field main pehlay se hi itna competition hai.....us ka recipe na share karna is not unreasonable or strange or even rude. Tumhe phir is baat ko samajhne main aur tasleem karne main koi muskil nahi honi chahiye.
Jis asaani se tum ne naani se kaha k Aap ko recipe secret rakhni chahiye.......jis asaani se tumharay zehn main yeh idea us waqt aaya tha ......usi same asaani se tumhe ab accept karna and samajhna chahiye why a professional cook who earns profit from her skills such as Dubaiwali prefers to keep it a secret. Baat khatam.
This is so funny. You people are arguing for no reason at all. I will write a detailed post later from computer, at the moment driving and seeing this from phone, but gist of everything is, like RV said; some Chefs share and some don't. There's different reasons behind that. I can't type it down right now, but I definitely will. To each their own.
If someone wants to share their recipe, it is fine. If someone doesn't, that shouldn't be an issue either. I have no idea why people are getting riled up for no reason at all. If someone wants to ask me any recipe apart from the ones I use at the restaurant, I will more than gladly share them and the tips too.
However, I will not share any secret recipes or trade secrets. Enough said. I have my friends on this forum and before I have PM'd people recipes too. I gave someone recipe for Patisa. Someone recipe for Chicken Pasta etc. I like to help people and share. But not when it comes to business.
DW this thread was not that why dont you or any other professional share their recipe.but this was a general question for everyone.even Proto made it clear that she was not asking about you anyone directly here.
I didnt even bother to read any post beyond first line where professional chefs are being discussed. That is totally not related to the original question :halo:
Ufffff did u even read my above post???
I said only for this thread.
let m3 explain while I was reading your post naani was sitting front of me thats why I wrote * I JUST ASKED NAANI* ke why do you share recipes why dont u keep it secret (THIS CLEALRY WAS A QUESTION).
Kinzz,
Did you not say in the Tikka biryani thread that you thought it was 'rude'
for someone who knows a recipe and doesn't share it?
And now you have shared the story of how you told your own naani that she should keep her recipes a secret....and you must not have seen anything wrong, or surprising, or weird, or even rude about this suggestion that you provided your own grandmother with. If it was such a rude thing, I don't think you would have suggested it to her.
Therefore, Kinzz, you should not have any issues at all with any person......chahay woh NON-chef ho ya professional chef ho....you shouldn't be upset if either one of these two groups doesn't want to share a recipe. You should not find it "rude" if someone (regardless of profession) chooses not to share a recipe since you had no hesitation venturing the secrecy suggestion.
And ...if after this post....you still think that I am only talking about professional chefs.....then it is you that missed the point big time.
Ufffff did u even read my above post???
I said only for this thread.
let m3 explain while I was reading your post naani was sitting front of me thats why I wrote * I JUST ASKED NAANI* ke why do you share recipes why dont u keep it secret (THIS CLEALRY WAS A QUESTION).
I missed the "just." For, that misunderstanding I'll apologize. My explanation which dealt with the professional chefs is still relevant to the thread, Kinzz....more so than the fashion designing example, but I guess you think there's more room for the latter than the former, eh? Anyhow, let me explain why I brought up prof chefs and contracts and copyrights and patents. I did so after reading your response to Laiha and your views about "competition." That is why I brought up the examples which have got you so upset and which you find wholly irrelevant to the thread and especially to your own posts.
Agree with Proto.
Proto her self is a designer but been helping a lot regarding making replica waghaira.
also I didnt get this what Laiah said * *when you don't know this person and they could very well be your competition. **
I don't agree.if someone os intelligent enough they already smart and there is **no way being in competition unless **its a cooking competition or something.
I don't cook much but whatever I do im more than happy to share recipe.people can make and call it their own recipe.
^Look at sequence of your ideas in this post of yours. You started by talking about fashion designing...yet I am being told professional cooking is "irrelevant" to the thread. Strange.
It seems Laiha is talking about cooking from a professional sense. You expressed both confusion and disagreement with Laiha's views. I brought up professional cooking because I was addressing and countering your stance on competition. You concluded the post by saying that you don't mind if people pass off your recipe as their own...and I tied this stance back to Laiha's view and your response to her.
I know that your question was directed at non-professional chefs, but this entire thread was inspired from that “other thread” that you made reference to in your original post. I am not the 1st one who mentioned “professional chefs” in this thread. For example, check out this post.
Originally Posted by khattichichttp://www.paklinks.com/gs/images/buttons/viewpost-right.png Its odd that people are saying professional chefs or people in food business never share recipes…there is a whole industry, especially television and Internet of celebrity chefs who are teaching the masses, average Joe Schmoe their craft. I often take cooking classes and attend demonstrations in my city, put on by the famous restrautuers here, some who are Michelon star chefs…I don’t see any hesitation there lol. Even if I learn a recipe or technique from a restaraunt chef, it will NEVER turn out the exact same because sab kya haat ka mazaa alag hota hai, and cooking in a home environment differs vastly from a professional kitchen, so I find it absolutely lubricious to say that by Chef XYZ’ recipe of ABC Reastraunt could be impacted if they told someone how they make a certain dish
Correct me if I’m wrong but I don’t recall you correcting khatti that this thread isn’t about professional chefs?
I guess I should have quoted khatti’s post instead of yours. But I wasn’t trying to start an argument. It’s a little ridiculous for people to be comparing professional and non-professional folks sharing their recipes. Anyhow, like you said, to each their own. :k:
I missed the "just." For, that misunderstanding I'll apologize. My explanation which dealt with the professional chefs is still relevant to the thread, Kinzz....more so than the fashion designing example, but I guess you think there's more room for the latter than the former, eh? Anyhow, let me explain why I brought up prof chefs and contracts and copyrights and patents. I did so after reading your response to Laiha and your views about "competition." That is why I brought up the examples which have got you so upset and which you find wholly irrelevant to the thread and to your own posts.
No, I wast not upset until you started blaming me without reading my post correctly.
So I wasn’t the first to mention professional cooking and thus derail the thread?!! Phew. Though I did agree with khatti’s point on prof culinary education; they seemed valid to me. As far as derailing, I had been doing that long before…with my display of Tamil proficiency…which I feel no shame for by the way.
Hi guys, just to reiterate , this is a good , healthy discussion. its definitely made a good , enjoyable read for me and many others. More so, the discussion has covered both aspects of the topic , from a professional point of view and a day to day cooks like myself and many others points of view as well. So I dont see any derailing here
Back to the recipe sharing bit, I see so many groups on facebook that are food groups and no doubt they have huge following. Do you think those recipes are their original recipes or just the usual recipes that they have picked from here and there and tried out ? would you insist on them providing credit to the recipe creators?
visualising and fantasising what is not even mentioned or required.
