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just asking (coz A_E said wer'e allowed to :D)... u say that beauty is only for the husband, so say a woman observes niqab, then are you saying she is allowed to go against the hadith at hand? that she is allowed to artificially widen the gap b/w her teeth, pluck her eye brows and tatoo her face w/o the whole thing of getting laanut?
yea.... ask but without the sarcasm :D
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and what about the men who trimming/threading/waxing or wateva their eyebrows 
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yea.... ask but without the sarcasm :D
no no, the question was a serious one.
the tunzun part was how you said it was ok to ask questions... I guess it was meant to show that i agreed with your POV.
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Where did laanat come from?
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In al-Saheeh, it was reported that Ibn Mas’ood (may Allaah be pleased with him) said: “Allaah has cursed the women who do tattoos and those who have this done, the women who pluck eyebrows and those who have this done, and the women who file their teeth and change the creation of Allaah.”
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Where did laanat come from?
in reference to a hadith about women plucking their brows. I think it was posted in first page of this thread.
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oh thanks pinks didnt see that....there it is crescent.
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Considering the hadith about plucking eyebrows...
Isn't cutting your hair "changing" the creation of Allah? What about your nails (pedicure manicure, etc.?)?
What about make up?
Wearing heels?
earrings? I am sure no body is born with hole in their earlobe...
nose rings?
"Changing" creation of Allah argument is absurd to say the least.
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Karnay do bhai. Let them walk around with their unkept bushy unibrows. Koi baat nahi, sab chalta hai with Pakistani women.
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yaar dunya chaand par pohanch gayi hai, tum log abhi tak eyebrows par lar rahe ho.
jaise PCG kehti hai waise karo sab.
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I wouldn't recommend that. I haven't had time to go by my eyebrow lady since about 5 months ago.
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*OK loggo, khabbar daar kissi nay eyebrows banayeeN to, PCG nay mana kar dia hai.
PCG hamari bari haiN, guru haiN, devi hain hussan ki, sab log inki batoN par amal karo.
Shukriya.*
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Considering the hadith about plucking eyebrows...
Isn't cutting your hair "changing" the creation of Allah? What about your nails (pedicure manicure, etc.?)?
What about make up?
Wearing heels?
earrings? I am sure no body is born with hole in their earlobe...
nose rings?
"Changing" creation of Allah argument is absurd to say the least.
and while we are at it .. lets stop cutting our nails
and stop eating also cause that adds more cells to our body which changes the creation
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C'mon tlk bahi .. its useless .... we shant be postin in this forum ... :D
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I shape my eyebrows and because I don't follow those scholars who are completely against it but I agree with those scholars who allow shaping and tidying it, that's why I think I'm not doing any gunnah inshaAllah.
Some sisters are arguing by saying " there is a hadith against it ".....I'm sure they haven't checked the arabic version of the hadith nor they have considered reading its explanation by different scholars. There is a difference between plucking(nams) and shaping or trimming the eyebrows.
I really don't like when muslims come up to prove their point with " one hadith " without any reasearch and studies.
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I can see some people here in this thread who always bash and insult Scholars but now they are giving reference from them to justify their actions, what do you call it? Hypocrisy or Idiocy?
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Considering the hadith about plucking eyebrows...
Isn't cutting your hair "changing" the creation of Allah? What about your nails (pedicure manicure, etc.?)?
What about make up?
Wearing heels?
earrings? I am sure no body is born with hole in their earlobe...
nose rings?
"Changing" creation of Allah argument is absurd to say the least.
Peace Jaan Leva
We can't the changing of Allah's (SWT) creation argument is absurd unless you mean that in the context of eyebrows it is absurd in which case I agree. As far as I understand from the hadith the only reasons for not doing so are:
1) Self-mutilation (shaping is for beautifying so this category is void, however, some people do enage in mutilation of features and that is not allowed)
2) Immitation of bad class of women (This is time dependent as far as I understand)
As for certain things that 'change' the creation of Allah (SWT) some are written explicitly that are considered acceptable or even required.
Cutting nails/hair is from the Fitrah which means it is required.
Wearing jewelry etc by piercings and modification to natural body is acceptable as long as they are not classed as 1) or 2) above.
The 'changing' of creation is a valid argument in many cases such as for example where permanent disfigurement is the result. Even in piercings the 'alteration' may not be permanent.
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People need to stop taking Hadiths out of context.
Ask a fuqahaa, and you'll have ur answer.
From what I know of one, you can do it to please your husband/ at time of rishta (or if you've reached the age of marriage). Majority of the Ullema agree to this.
However I can also understand why there is a limitation on beautifying yourself. Some girls go way over board, and you know what i'm talking about.
Its better they not do it at all, or limit themselves into doing it according to Shariah, rather than displeasing Allah swt.
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OK loggo, khabbar daar kissi nay eyebrows banayeeN to, PCG nay mana kar dia hai.
PCG hamari bari haiN, guru haiN, devi hain hussan ki, sab log inki batoN par amal karo.
Shukriya.
:D
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uh wowww at this thread lol