AP yeh waqt waqt kee baat hai bhai…kal jo aapka dost tha woh aaj aapka dushman hai and vice versa… This is politics for you. You may not know this but the present FM (Shah Mehmood Qureishi) his father Makhdoom Sajjad Hussain Qureshi was a very close friend of Zia’s and Governor Punjab under Junejo (effectively under Zia)
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Re: Shahbaz and Nisar secretly meet Kayani
I am on topic
Nawaz Sharif said to day in press conference
** ''Aiasay Chhup Chhup kar milnay Ki koi Zaroorat naheen thi-**''
Re: Shahbaz and Nisar secretly meet Kayani
This is not a thread
Now this is history.
These two did the same also on 16th March 2009 secretly.
Not only this
Today a program was telecasted on Geo named Jirga,
Where Rtd Brig Rashid Qureshi and Sidiq ul Farooq of PML N were guests
Nazir Naji told that these two many time met Musharraf secretly to solve the matters.
Rtd Brig Rashid Qureshi (D.G.ISPR at Mush times)and Sidiq ul Farooq also said the same.
So these both are habitual................
....pets to get haddi.:)
Read what respect has GHQ for Interior Ministry. How above person was insulted. You can not make him responsible for attack on GHQ where his entry is even banned as though he is as an enemy. Read and enjoy his humiliation.
**GHQ is ‘out of bounds’ for Malik **
**ISLAMABAD, Oct 14: Interior Minister Rehman Malik faced an embarrassing situation on Wednesday when he was not allowed to enter the General Headquarters (GHQ) in Rawalpindi during a “scheduled” visit to attend “a ceremony” to pay homage to the army personnel who died during the siege on Saturday. **
**Interior ministry sources told Dawn that the minister had gone to the GHQ to attend the ceremony and stayed there for a couple of minutes and returned to Islamabad after placing a wreath at the Yadgar-i-Shohada, which is far away from the main GHQ building. **
**Mr Malik was not accorded protocol at the GHQ where he arrived to place wreaths on behalf of President Asif Ali Zardari and Prime Minister Yousuf Raza Gilani. He placed flowers on the memorial after he was not taken to the main building, sources said. **
**According to sources, there was no senior military official to receive the minister and he stayed there hardly for three minutes before returning to the capital. **
**Earlier, the interior ministry’s media team had invited reporters to attend a ceremony at the GHQ, where the interior minister would “unveil a plaque bearing the names of the slain military personnel”. **
**Journalists were later told that no such function would be held and they need not reach the venue. Sometime later, reporters were informed that the minister had visited the GHQ and laid floral wreaths there. **
**Nawazish Ali, the interior ministry’s media director, said the minister stayed there “only for five minutes because he had to … attend the National Assembly session”. **
**An official of the Inter Services Public Relations (ISPR) said the minister’s visit was scheduled and that he placed a floral wreath at the Yadgar-i-Shohada. **
**There was no explanation why the minister was not received by any senior GHQ official and for his brief stay. **
Re: Shahbaz and Nisar secretly meet Kayani
I have seen an old news aetical and it is looking intresting now,
Nisar in two minds on which ministry to head
**March 26th, 2008 [durrani](http://www.naitazi.com/author/durrani/) · [1 Comment](http://www.naitazi.com/2008/03/26/nisar-in-two-minds-on-which-ministry-to-head/#comments) **
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Source: The News
PML-N stalwart Ch Nisar Ali Khan is in two minds as he cannot decide which ministry he should head at this critical moment of his political life.
The choice is between his favourite and the most lucrative petroleum ministry, for the third time, or become the defence minister of Pakistan to take sadistic pleasure of teasing his old friend General (retd) Pervez Musharraf, whom he recommended as the Army chief in 1998, but who put him under house arrest for three years.
What should have been a credit to Nisar has instantly become a disadvantage in the eyes of Nawaz Sharif, when his old uniformed friend after staging the coup, had put all of them in a dungeon at the Attock Fort but looked after his benefactor Nisar Ali Khan by allowing him to stay at his house for three years.
The question as to who should head the defence ministry has dramatically become important as the politician who would sit in that chair would automatically become the boss of the Army chief, General Ashfaq Kayani and two other services chiefs, in addition to his regular contact with the GHQ and other important matters related to the military.
President Musharraf has been very keen in the last eight years of his rule to only allow a loyalist of his own choice to head the defence ministry like his classmate Rao Sikandar. But as the fortunes have turned, someone who does not like him might occupy the critical position.
Background interviews with political sources established the fact that the unusual presence of Nisar in the Defence Ministry, who is fond of the company of the uniformed men because of his family’s military background, might greatly upset the present greatly weakened occupant of the presidency.
Nisar, along with Shahbaz Sharif, had always been dealing with military men, particularly General Pervez Musharraf during the second government of Nawaz Sharif. Now his heavy presence in the Defence Ministry might administratively make him the boss of the new Army chief and for understandable reasons, this interaction with the new Army Chief General Ashfaq Kayani may not be appreciated in the presidential camp.
The Nawaz camp is thinking to tease Musharraf by bringing in Nisar as the defence minister, as they all believe that a shrewd politician like him could easily handle the military because of his past experience of dealing with them.
The Defence Ministry has always been very dear to Nisar family, as during the last government of Nawaz, his elder brother Iftikhar Ali Khan was the defence secretary as Nawaz wanted a very close and trusted man to deal with the military affairs.
In the past, Nisar, a permanent member of Nawaz’s kitchen cabinet, used to pick the most lucrative Ministry of Petroleum. He headed this profitable ministry twice which deals with multi-million dollar contracts of gas and petrol exploration and has its own importance in the economy.
Once again, he chose the petroleum ministry when he met the negotiating team of PPP. But, now reports are coming that he may pick the defence ministry.
Earlier, when the then Army chief Gen Jahangir Karamat was shown the door, Nisar had secretly arranged a meeting between Nawaz Sharif and Musharraf to elevate him as the Army chief.
Nisar never hid his own role in the elevation of Musharraf as the Army chief.
Nisar was put under house arrest unlike Nawaz, Shahbaz, Kh Asif, Ishaq Dar, Javed Hashmi, Siddiqul Farooq and many others. He remained under house arrest till his release in 2002. This soft approach of Musharraf created doubts in the mind of Nawaz as both had stopped talking to each other.
But, once he was released from house arrest, he visited Jeddah to remove the doubts in the minds of the Sharifs. Once again, Nisar has assumed the role of distribution of ministries among his fellow MNAs as he used to do before October 12, 1999.
Anwar Pasha,
Do you think in present circumtances PPP will allow him to be defence minister? I don't think so. However this is definitely crucial post. I remember Talpur was defence minister in Zia-ul-Haq period. He was beateup by corps commander in a meeting. Talpur was sent home. This is how military people respect civilian counterparts.
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I am sorry. He is not thinkinking for a ministry. He is planning to get more with the help of "Brather e Yousaf" and his old permanent contacts .............................................
Is Qadar Khouf Hai Ab Sheher Ki Galyun Mea Keh Loug.
Chaap Suntay Hain To Lag Jaatay Hain Dewaar Ke Sath.
This is ridiculous. Why army has given more preference to SS and Ch Nisar over President and PM on security issues? It means Punjab’s CM and Ch Nisar are more important than the President and PM of Pakistan? What nonsense is this?
DAWN.COM | Pakistan | Parliament should decide fate of aid bill, says Nawaz
The PML-N leader confirmed that his brother Shahbaz Sharif and Chaudhry Nisar Ali Khan had held a secret meeting with the army chief, but said that security issues had been discussed at the meeting.
provincial security issues come under the remit of Chief Minister. I know the Sharifs are no angels but I think some people are overreacting here and too much is being made of this meeting. It is not like SS met the indian COAS
So if the Chief Minister of a province wants to meet a military general, he goes at midnight to the general instead of summoning the general to his office? Assuming the CM is an elected leader, that by itslf explains what's wrong
COAS is not subordinate (corps commanders are) to CM. The army chief does not take orders from anyone except President or PM. Like it or not that is how it is in Pakistan
Then why secret? It should have been opened to public. Ch Nisar is leader of oppostion what he was doing? He had history of subotaging and creating atmosphere of anarchy with the conivance of military. Accept this fact. in ko democracy se kya lena dena.
Re: Shahbaz and Nisar secretly meet Kayani
Today the both meet Openly
See this news from Dunya TV web
](javascript:window.mailpage()) ](http://www.dunyanews.tv/newsite/eng/print_news_eng.php?nid=7167&catid=&flag=d) **Friday October 16, 2009 09:22PM**
Top leadership gives final go-ahead on South Waziristan operation
PM Minister Yousaf Raza Gilani chaired a high-level meeting in the PM House in Islamabad in which law and order situation and Waziristan operation were reviewed, Dunya News reported on Friday. According to latest reports, it is decided to start the operation ‘Rah-e-Nijaat’ in South Waziristan from Sunday night. The Prime Minister Yousaf Raza Gilani will address the nation before the start of the operation and take the nation into confidence, sources revealed. Curfew would be imposed in South Waziristan including Wana bazaar from Saturday morning. The decision is taken due to the wave of terrorist attacks in the country. A large number of tribesmen are leaving their houses in South Waziristan to various areas of nearby Dera Ismail Khan, Bannu and North Waziristan.
Talking to media after the meeting, Federal Information Minister Qamar Zaman Kaira said that Army Chief General Pervaiz Kayani briefed the participants about the Waziristan operation in the meeting. He told that GHQ attack and other recent attacks on security facilities were also discussed. He said that the participants lauded the performance of security forces against terrorists. Foreign Minister Shah Mehmood Qureshi briefed the participants about Kerry-Lugar Bill, he said.
Finance Minister Shaukat Tareen, Information Minister Qamar Zaman Kaira, Punjab Chief Minister **Shahbaz Sharif, **Interior Minister Rehman Malik, Defence Minister Ahmad Mukhtar, Foreign Minister Shah Mehmood Qureshi, MQM leader Farooq Sattar, PML-Q leader Chaudhry Shujaat Hussain, Chairman Senate Raza Rabbani, ANP leader Asfandiyar Wali Khan, leader of the opposition in the National Assembly **Chaudhry Nisar Ali, **NWFP Governor and NWFP CM were also present in the meeting.
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Perhaps they deserve because of their great expereince
Aah Nawaz Sharif…Kabhi apni beaqli, Kabhi apnon ka war
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Re: Shahbaz and Nisar secretly meet Kayani
Just Watch him
He will must be meeting someone.
May be SS not there this time.
Atleast he is able to move alone.
Geo.
** Chaudhry Nisar arrives Karachi** Updated at: 0354 PST, Saturday, October 17, 2009
KARACHI: The leader of Pakistan Muslim League Nawaz (PML-N) and opposition leader in National Assembly Chaudhry Nisar Ali Khan has arrived here in Karachi late on Friday, Geo news reported.
According to Geo news correspondent, he was accorded warm welcome by party workers at Jinnah international airport, meanwhile, PML-N activists were rushing so hard to receive him that the situation almost reach to scuffle.
Party workers were rude enough with media men to throw away their video cameras and misbehaved with them so media boycotted to cover the event, he added.
Why PML(N) is thrashing journalist everywhere? Because they disclosed their secret meetings with the military?
These lotays without panday, talk big. When they were in power during Mush regime, all actions of his were approved by them. None had enough morals and courage to say something against him.
DAWN.COM | National | Chattha wants unconditional military aid from US
ISLAMABAD, Oct 17: The controversy over the Kerry-Lugar act would die down if the government is able to persuade the United States to make military assistance to Pakistan unconditional.
This was proposed by chief of a faction of Pakistan Muslim League Hamid Nasir Chattha at a press conference here on Saturday. Military assistance is yet to be negotiated.
He said the government should press the US administration to introduce a fresh bill in this regard.
Khursheed Ahmed Kasuri, who was with Mr Chattha, blamed the Indian lobby for conditions imposed under the Kerry-Lugar act, and said it was initiated when PML-Q was in power. “Then it was known as Kerry-Biden bill and was without any conditions.”
President of the group Salim Saifullah Khan, secretary-general Humayun Akhtar and Kashmala Tariq were present. They said conditions on military aid would be unacceptable to them.
Rejecting the government’s contention that the explanatory note appended to the bill had changed everything, they said the spokesman for Senator John Kerry and the US Ambassador to India were on record as saying that the conditions were still there and nothing had changed.
They said they supported the military operation in South Waziristan, which was necessary to eliminate terrorism, and urged the government to make foolproof arrangements to protect lives and property of internally displaced people.
Blaming the Chaudhrys of Gujrat for introducing the National Reconciliation Ordinance (NRO), they made it clear that their faction would “never support it”.
Mr Chattha said that before the national elections, a meeting was held at the Army House under then president Pervez Musharraf, which was attended by Chaudhry Shujaat Hussain and Chaudhry Pervez Elahi.
The meeting, he said, considered the three demands presented by the PPP, including repeal of Article 58(2)b, withdrawal of cases and end of conditions barring people from contesting the post of prime minister for a third term. He said Musharraf had accepted conditions other than the repeal of Article 58(2)b.
“We don’t believe in corruption and will never support it.” According to him, all corruption cases should be presented before the judiciary.
Salim Saifullah announced the nomination of Begum Mehnaz Rafi and Prince Nawaz Elahi as vice-presidents and Senator Gulshan Saeed as member of the party’s central executive committee.
Re: Shahbaz and Nisar secretly meet Kayani
Sh Rasheed told in a TV show yesterday that Nisar & Sh..baz have met COAS three time secretly but N$ perhaps aware now. See this report from Dialy Times of today.
**Nisar a player of T20, ODIs’
** ISLAMABAD: Pakistan Muslim League-Nawaz chief Nawaz Sharif left his most trusted aide, Chaudhry Nisar Ali Khan, out of talks with President Asif Ali Zardari – and a party later hinted that the decision had been made because Nisar is “a player of Twenty20 and one-dayers”. Nisar – who is also the leader of the opposition in the National Assembly – is known for targeting President Asif Ali Zardari in speeches inside and outside the parliament, leading to tensions between the two parties. At a press conference after the Nawaz-Zardari meeting, Raja Zafarul Haq evaded a question about Nisar’s absence, but Khawaja Asif later said, “Nisar is player of Twenty20 and one-dayers.” Nisar claimed that he opted out of the meeting. However, it is widely believed that Nisar was consciously kept out of the meeting because of his known anti-Zardari stance. staff report
Rocking the boat with the conivance of military will never help NS. These stupid conspirators should know that. SS perhaps forgetting that how he was deported from Pakistan when he landed during Mush's time. No one from PML(N) or JI came forward to save his deportation. Stupid people.
Rocking the boat with the conivance of military will never help NS. These stupid conspirators should know that. SS perhaps forgetting that how he was deported from Pakistan when he landed during Mush's time. No one from PML(N) or JI came forward to save his deportation. Stupid people.
All these politicians are the same, where were the PPP leaders when their leader was hanged. They either ran out of the country or were with that moron Zia. So Iss hamam mein sub nangay hain. Both party leaders are selfish to the core.
Most PPP leaders were arrested by malown dictator, he tried his utmost effort to delete the name of Zulfiqar Ali Bhutto, from the minds of people by using all kinds of torture, prison, lashing you name it to suppress any uprising. A number of people were killed during this jaanwar's government. You have to understand that it was very difficult for people to come in direct confrontation with the military.
Saying all this, I agree with you if people of Punjab (whom he was elected by them)if wanted to get him out they could have. But they did not hence he was killed by malown, mardood dictator. In the end whole country suffered, and still is suffering and will continue to suffer unfortunately.
Conspirators at that time were JI, cronies of JI and NS. NS became 'munh bola beta to malown dictator. To day they are still # 1 conspirators against democracy by having secret meetings with military. If this goes on, suffereing will go on, till existance of the country.