all this talk doesn't do a damn bit of good for any of you, it doesn't re-write the Quran, so if you do it, you're still going to hell unless you repent like a biatch...cause if it were doing any good to talk about it, I would forget dreaming about meeting the perfect paki-muslim-hot (the last part is highly unlikely) girl and just tapped a girl here in California...
I don't think sex before marriage is wrong...and I don't think its sick, but I haven't done it, and never will for one reason, it is written in the Qur'an, why is this topic even a debate?
look meme i dunno all the whys and donts of the story, if the person was a slut or a psycho, not my prob, but as you know many ppl make the same friggin mistake, in my opinion, it seemed to have a bit of relevance bcos the guy was plannin on marrying the grl they wanted to anyway but then the complication
When you tell someone thing is wrong they will do it at times, just as you tell someone don't touch this its hot, they will touch it.
"By Allah I long to escape the prison of my ego and lose myself in the mountains and deserts , these sad and lonely people tire me" ---Rumi
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Originally posted by Bluebell:
**When you tell someone thing is wrong they will do it at times, just as you tell someone don't touch this its hot, they will touch it.
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Then what's the cure???
*Pyaar Bhi Zindagi Ki Tarah Hota Hay.
Hur Mor Asan Nahin Hota, Hur Mor Pay Khushi Nahin Milti;
Pur Jub Hum Zindagi Ka Saath Nahin Chortay To Pyaar Ka Saath Kyon Chorayn. *
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Originally posted by Mem Sahib:
Would you understand why someone Did?
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nope, I wouldnt understand why one wouldnt get married an determine to spend their life together with one they feel so intimately close with!
- Hell..is other people...*
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Originally posted by isloo_ki_anarkali:
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Originally posted by Mem Sahib:
Would you understand why someone Did?
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nope, I wouldnt understand why one wouldnt get married an determine to spend their life together with one they feel so intimately close with!
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Trust me there r times when u want to get married and not sin but can't do it. it's just impossible.
That's what i hate about our society, even if you want to do everything properly u can't. it just plain SUX!!
*Pyaar Bhi Zindagi Ki Tarah Hota Hay.
Hur Mor Asan Nahin Hota, Hur Mor Pay Khushi Nahin Milti;
Pur Jub Hum Zindagi Ka Saath Nahin Chortay To Pyaar Ka Saath Kyon Chorayn. *
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Originally posted by dewana tera:
** Trust me there r times when u want to get married and not sin but can't do it. it's just impossible.
That's what i hate about our society, even if you want to do everything properly u can't. it just plain SUX!!
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u seem to be blaming others for your oipinion, as if it were being forced on you...just what I hate in our society...
no ones has a gun to your head,there is no such thing as a forced bad judgement...
- Hell..is other people...*
THIS STORY MAKES ME REALLY ANGRY. SOMONE SHOULD HAVE COME AND SLAPPED HIM FOR BEING SO HORNY AND STUPID AND HER FOR BEING SUCH A USER. WHERES THE ISOC WHEN YOU NEED IT?
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Originally posted by Xara:
I would never have sex b4 marriage
my friend told me abt what happened to this guy she knew, long story but erally sad
this guy, lets call him nadeem, he met Saira at uni in london, she used to wear hijab and abayaa, seemed really islamic, but then they spent 4 yrs together had sex, the lot.
he wanted to marry her so he went to her parents and they said he was from a lower cast from them so it was outta question, the girl, who was a MEGA SLUT went of with some other guy, and told nadeem to get lost
nadeems gone mental now, he uses girls and well has no respect for girls esp. ones who practice islam, (supposedly anyway) hes gone completely off his rocker, used to love the girl alot and carred her pic around with him everywhere now he gambles/drinks/drugs uses and abuses
first of all they shouldnt have had sex even if they were in love, the girl was a b*** she used nadeem and treated him like a servant, believe or not he used to wash her dishes at uni anything 4 her
its quite sad, i think they shoulda waited to get married and parents, equally stupid they knew they were sleeping together shoulda let them get married
WOW long mail but its been on my mind lately
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They say that you only become wise through your own experiences and not through other people's. What you may believe in is your belief and I've got nothing against it. Since we're all posting OUR BELIEFS here I hope you all will contemplate over my belief that whatever you do, YOU WILL BE standing before GOD soon enough, answerable to your deeds and to your excuses. I don't think your 'beliefs' will come in handy then.
Don't be stupid, ACT NOW.
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Originally posted by isloo_ki_anarkali:
** u seem to be blaming others for your oipinion, as if it were being forced on you...just what I hate in our society...
no ones has a gun to your head,there is no such thing as a forced bad judgement...
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Well doesn't our societ function this way??? If two ppl fall in love they should get married soon. but if they do then they r looked down upon society and family members. That is wrong. In an islamic society this should not happen.
*Pyaar Bhi Zindagi Ki Tarah Hota Hay.
Hur Mor Asan Nahin Hota, Hur Mor Pay Khushi Nahin Milti;
Pur Jub Hum Zindagi Ka Saath Nahin Chortay To Pyaar Ka Saath Kyon Chorayn. *
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Originally posted by Xara:
I would never have sex b4 marriage
my friend told me abt what happened to this guy she knew, long story but erally sad
this guy, lets call him nadeem, he met Saira at uni in london, she used to wear hijab and abayaa, seemed really islamic, but then they spent 4 yrs together had sex, the lot.
he wanted to marry her so he went to her parents and they said he was from a lower cast from them so it was outta question, the girl, who was a MEGA SLUT went of with some other guy, and told nadeem to get lost
nadeems gone mental now, he uses girls and well has no respect for girls esp. ones who practice islam, (supposedly anyway) hes gone completely off his rocker, used to love the girl alot and carred her pic around with him everywhere now he gambles/drinks/drugs uses and abuses
first of all they shouldnt have had sex even if they were in love, the girl was a b*** she used nadeem and treated him like a servant, believe or not he used to wash her dishes at uni anything 4 her
its quite sad, i think they shoulda waited to get married and parents, equally stupid they knew they were sleeping together shoulda let them get married
WOW long mail but its been on my mind lately
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woww girl in the abaya and having sex.. hmm wierd stuff happening around maan.
Reza Khan,
You should visit some UK Universities with your eyes open.
Actually you should visit some USA Universities as well with ur eyes open.
It will reveal many secrets .... by eyes openned I mean just sniff around & you will see many thing that u dont expect.
This is ridicilous man....
CAn i just say ur really annoying me?-cuz i just did.
u cum in2 this forum tryin 2 condone ur bhavior and if people disagree then u get mad?
Sort ur self out.
And i think any muslim who has sex b4 marraige is a slut-no muslim should even have a girl/boy friend let alone think about sleeping with any 1
all this is of course in my humble opinion (as not to offend any 1 who hs slept with any 1 b4 marraige)-but im talking as a muslim and a girl whos parents have done a gd job bringing her up.what can i say-i blame the parents.
phwah
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[This message has been edited by Mem Sahib (edited May 03, 2002).]
I AM NOT Condoning my behaviour coz I havent had sex before marriage
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!! ** It was a debate ** and I do get mad at those people who pass their judgement on me or anyone else for whatever they do… because they dont have the right to do that! They can say what they want, think what they want but no one has the RIGHT to force their opinion on other people.. We are all muslims.. we all read the quran, we’ve all studied our religion albeit at different lengths… our parents have all Instilled values into us.. but there comes a time when we are our OWN person and we think with our own mind without the influence of anyone or any other thing.. and at the end of the day we SOLELY will be responsible for our actions.. in the eyes of God and the fact that we have to live with the consequences of our actions all through our life..
I havent had sex before marriage.. I dont think I could.. I dont believe in doing something and spending a lifetime regretting it.. so whatever decision I make.. I think about it very carefully… when I think of sex before marriage.. I close my eyes and imagine myself standing infront of Allah and Allah asking me WHY? and I see myself as having no real answer… so I dont think I could have sex before marriage.. even if its with someone I love more than anything else in this world…
SO theres my real opinion on SEX BEFORE MARRIAGE… You think I’m a slut.. but the thing is I dont care what you think.. you might never have sex before marriage but that doesnt necessarily make you a good muslim either! you’re still judgemental on others.. and you called me a slut and judged what my parents have instilled in me…
This was meant to be a debate.. people were meant to discuss this topic.. but discuss is different from making accusations and TELLING people to what they should or shouldnt do!
As for Religion and Islam, I have my beliefs and do my own studies.. I dont appreciate it being rammed down my throat by someone else…
Mem Sahib
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i totally agree with you Mem, people are so narrow minded here.
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I am not in favour of sex before marriage either but by it does not mean if someone happen to favour it i would call them a slut. jeez
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[This message has been edited by Jal_Pari (edited May 03, 2002).]
Jal Pari..
Thats the thing - I dont Favour it..
but I dont denounce somebody or classify them as a SLUT even if they do..