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I appreciate your reply and although I think your comment on me being dumb only makes you appear a lot less credible im still glad one of you gave me descent reply.
Anyways, most of what you say is completely and utterly impractical and unfair for the most part.
No one in the country is going to follow your perscription for an Islamic state unless they are forced into it by the Danda. You claim that an Islamic society will solve everything, but thats totally naive. And I can tell you why.. Human nature.
No one for example will ever stop listening to Music in public or anywhere else. Weddings all across Pakistan are incomplete without Music. How will you stop people from playing music at weddings by sending the religious police? You can stop all forms of entertainment and all that will do is make people bitter and angry and more rebelious,
Because that human nature. Look what happened when Liquor was outlawed, people started smuggling it and making it at home... I mean its a fact that liquor is easier to find then water in many places. Look at how our society seperates men and women, its seen as taboo, and you know as well as I do how many men in Pakistan turn to their own sex for "companionship." Pakistanis indulge in every unislamic vice and this despite the fact that they are outlawed so what difference will an Islamic system make?
As for women and temptation..Bro, women that are attractive can whatever they want and they will still be tempting. Women are a temptation no matter what they wear.
And Minorites paying Jizya is a completely out dated concept. The Mafia is the only organization that exacts "protection" money. And who the hell are the Minorities paying for protection from????
And why can a Muslim be spared the death penalty for killing a Non Muslim? If a Muslim Murders and entire Non muslim family in the most horendous way, he gets a life sentance but if it were the other way around the non muslim WOULD get the death sentance... How the hell is that Justice?
And what the hell is modest dress? Iif I wear shorts am I being modest? If I wear expensive western made Versaci suits, while everyone else wears Kmart, how the hell is that being modest?
And again, who is going to agree with you so called scholars? Shia will certainly not agree with everything a Sunni scholar says. Infact, different schools withi Sunni Islam will not agree on who is and who isnt a scholar, and how the religion is to be interpreted. And there really nothing in our culture that doesnt contradict Islam, name me one thing that doesnt contradict Islam.
And if I dont agree with how the religion is interpreted, why should I go to the so called scholors? Who are they and what are their credentials...?
There is no authority in Islam, no vatican like system, so where the heck do these scholors come from?
Its a proven fact that capital punishment doesnt work, and besides, it does seem rather cruel to chop someones hands of for robbery. Humanists have a point in this case. I mean, why did that person steal, maybe its the societies fault, in Pakistan for example, economic conditions, educational system probably make more criminals then anything else.
As for the 1 woman = 2 men, thats fine, But I know many men that are complete liars and many women that are more credible then a hundered men put together. So im not sure how ground realities can hold up in this case.
And when was the last time you found four men who could confirm that sex was concesual? I mean, do all couples about to have sex have four men around to confirm it... Its ridiculous.