re: Scots voted 55 per cent to 45 per cent against independence
Scots reject independence in historic vote - World - DAWN.COM
Let's see which other countries have such referendums..
Re: Scots voted 55 per cent to 45 per cent against independence
A victory for all!
A proud moment for Britain and Scotland as they have shown what the democracy is all about. This referendum is as close to true democracy as some people have ever witnessed in their life or will probably ever witness in their lifetime. A formidable separatist campaign was carried out without a single drop of blood being spilt or a single politically motivated arrest being made. It is absolutely extraordinary. Britons really have no idea how bloody fortunate they are. They really don't.
At the end of the day, only 5% of late voters managed to change the entire political landscape. I think this is a big message to people of Britain that never ever underestimate the power of your vote. This referendum should effectively dismiss the general political apathy where people - especially the young people - are often found saying that why should I vote, my vote won't make any difference. Clearly, that's not the case in the free and fair democracies.
I say this is a victory for all because Yes vote had registered their serious reservations and demands for change which would not be taken lightly by Westminster. Regardless of the results, the Scottish Referendum has really shaken things up, it has changed Scotland and rejuvenated British democracy. We all needed that wake up to tell us the old way of doing politics is not working. Politicians must listen and respond to people's concerns. They ought to do things drastically differentl to make way for the much needed change.
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What happened to Scottish Pride
it became England’s Bride!:khatti:
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William Wallace must be crying in his grave
No to Independence thats so weird
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Democracy at its best.
The most hilarious comment I had was from one of my Pakistani friend a well educated one, "baray high level kee dhandli howee hai"
I was dumbfounded by his comment. Our mindset sees conspiracy and corruption everywhere.
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BBC News - David Cameron sets out UK-wide changes ‘to build better future’
The bags under David Cameron’s eyes suggested that he hadn’t slept all night. The poor guy was back to back to work and made a speech at 7:00am in the morning. The above call for immediate course of action is anything but a failure of Scottish Referendum. People are talking about further devolution of power from Wales to Northern England to Scotland to Cromwell, for Cities and Regions. The referendum has sparked a debate and opened up conversations on so many levels and there is a real chance and hope that UK may embrace a more representative federal model. One of the most important highlight for this referendum movement has to be the wider public engagement with politics - especially by the young people - is phenomenal. I cannot emphasis this enough. After a very time we saw politicians under immense pressure to immediately act. The Government isn’t willing to waste a second and they have already get down to crafting the constitutional reforms. This is yet another historic display of how public campaign in Britain managed to profound democratic changes. This is how things should work in a true democracy.
In the midst of all the joy and disappointment, celebration and commiseration, all Britons must feel really proud of themselves. Two long years of intense separatist campaign yet not a single bullet fired, not a single baton unleashed on the crowd, not a single political arrest made. Not a single victim created, everyone is a winner. This is indeed democracy at its finest. All Britons - regardless of their political affiliations - should give themselves and their countries’ a round of applause. I repeat, they have no how idea how fortune they are.
I really hope the Britons keep their enthusiasm for change alive. Is this really the end of anti politics populism in the country? I bloody hope so.
Re: Scots voted 55 per cent to 45 per cent against independence
Democracy at its best.
The most hilarious comment I had was from one of my Pakistani friend a well educated one, "baray high level kee dhandli howee hai"
I was dumbfounded by his comment. Our mindset sees conspiracy and corruption everywhere.
Ok Ehsan Bhai you are right, but in order to keep the Union there was a lot of Promises of Greater Autonomy and more equitable distribution of wealth!
The Bride in this Union recieved promises of a substantial Haq Mehr / Dowery Right?
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I can’t believe I’m saying that and I don’t know why I am saying that, but Nawaz Sharif should learn from the Tories to how to save their government as well as the country. Constitution is there to serve the people, not politicians. It is not the final word of God that cannot be changed and challenged. These politicians cannot think beyond the parroted lines of ‘constitution is supreme’ to delude their supporters and uneducated masses.
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I can’t believe I’m saying that and I don’t know why I am saying that, but Nawaz Sharif should learn from the Tories to how to save their government as well as the country. Constitution is there to serve the people, not politicians. It is not the final word of God that cannot be changed and challenged. These politicians cannot think beyond the parroted lines of ‘constitution is supreme’ to delude their supporters and uneducated masses.
#YesToConstitutionalReforms](http://www.paklinks.com/gs/usertag.php?do=list&action=hash&hash=YesToConstitutionalReforms)
#LongLiveTrueDemocracy](http://www.paklinks.com/gs/usertag.php?do=list&action=hash&hash=LongLiveTrueDemocracy)
Re: Scots voted 55 per cent to 45 per cent against independence
William Wallace must be crying in his grave
No to Independence thats so weird
Scottish Nationalism is a reality, no doubt. But you cannot underestimate the power of shared community, history, language, culture and opportunities between people of England and Scotland.
I was very sympathetic to the Yes vote, may have even supported it here and there. But as the polling day approached, I genuinely didn't want Scotland to go! It would've been an extremely sad day.
But I cannot wait to see the great debates on devolution and the subsequent constitutional reforms.
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When is the next referendum? They should have included that question in this one.
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The best part was that the opposition accepted the verdict without a problem :D :D
Re: Scots voted 55 per cent to 45 per cent against independence
Great Decision by Scottish ....
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The best part was that the opposition accepted the verdict without a problem :D :D
Did you expect Alex Salmond do IK type darhna? :D Btw, not only they accepted verdict, but Alex Salmond quit as Scottish First Minister while accepting the defeat.
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Did you expect Alex Salmond do IK type darhna? :D Btw, not only they accepted verdict, but Alex Salmond quit as Scottish First Minister while accepting the defeat.
now if only SS could follow his example after committing far serious crime of murder of 14 people.
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Pakistanis shouldn't be excited about Scotland breaking away from the UK, the same could happen to Pakistan......
True, isn't baluchistan in a similar boat?
Re: Scots voted 55 per cent to 45 per cent against independence
Re: Scots voted 55 per cent to 45 per cent against independence
True, isn't baluchistan in a similar boat?
Yep, but they aren't as smart as the Scots.
Re: Scots voted 55 per cent to 45 per cent against independence
I think history will generally be kind to Cameron when the verdict on his biggest challenge as the Prime Minister will be written. Despite all his faults (and there are many!), there will be a narrative that’ll give him some credit for saving his government as well as the country. It was a very brave decision by him to allow the referendum to take place despite being fully aware of his government’s unpopularity both in England and Scotland. They carefully kept the debate focused on currency and economic to separate rhetoric from reality. When he saw Yes campaign still gaining the massive ground, his government was quick to promise positive changes to sway the voters.
Besides, all the usual strategic appeasement and pragmatism, I personally believe Cameron’s last message where he tells the Scottish voters that don’t see the referendum as another election to make your favourite party win and where you still reserve the right to reverse the damage after five years. His message that don’t see the Yes vote as a “chance to give effing Tory a kick” (his exact words) was a very, very strong message. It was a much needed reminder and perhaps his most game changing remark on the campaign. Thank God, in Britain, they didn’t start the mindless bickering about use of language, or started howling about how Prime Minister should not be using such terms, he’s an Etonian and Oxford graduate. Otherwise, the entire gist of his message would’ve been lost. I think majority of people agreed with Cameron for saying it the way he saw it, and he way it was popularly being perceived in the Yes camp. In my observation, the No vote started taking the lead once the fence sitters realised that Yes vote cannot be treated as No vote against the Conservatives who are are all set to be voted out next May. This very basic realisation had made a difference to the final outcome.