Rivers and their impact on culture

[muqawwee123]

Re: Rivers and their impact on culture

@ninja_hattori

how is muqaddas Sindhu river…?

Our Sher Darya is on full flow, but over the time it is also affceted by pollution and all that, but its sacredness is intact like Muqaddas Aab e Zam Zam

[ninja_hattori]

@muqawwee123:8997450

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how is muqaddas Sindhu river…?

Our Sher Darya is on full flow, but over the time it is also affceted by pollution and all that, but its sacredness is intact like Muqaddas Aab e Zam Zam
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Aab e Zam Zam muqaddas hain Hazrat Ismail Alehi salam ki nisbatse!
Sindhu ka pani kis nisbatse muqaddas hai?

[muqawwee123]

Re: Rivers and their impact on culture

@ninja_hattori

Aab e Zam Zam muqaddas hain Hazrat Ismail Alehi salam ki nisbatse!
Sindhu ka pani kis nisbatse muqaddas hai?

Aab e Zam Zam itni zameeno ko sairaab nahin karta jitna mera Sindhoo zameenen sairab karke mere dharti ke logon ke survival ka sabab bunta hai

[muqawwee123]

Re: Rivers and their impact on culture

Infact if today Sindh is called ‘Bab ul Islam’, then its due to the prosperity of the area because of River Sindh which attracted Arab invaders. Without River Sindh, there is no existence of Sindh.

[the_kaur]

Re: Rivers and their impact on culture

@muqawwee123

that is the ultimate attachment with the water

And it is most difficult source to divide, Punjab and haryana were divided in 65 but there is no proper settlement of dispute among Punjab, Haryana and Rajsthan, no settlement of water between India and Pakistan, this is the only reason I oppose of partitioning any state further as dividing water is always a political quagmire.

@muqawwee123

Our Sher Darya is on full flow, but over the time it is also affceted by pollution and all that, but its sacredness is intact like Muqaddas Aab e Zam Zam

Aab E Zam Zam, I heard about it before from most reliable source:D, that its water never get polluted naturally like Ganga.

[KKF]

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Ganga Maiyaa men jab tak k paanii rahe
merii sajnii! terii zindagaanii rahe

magar
**
Raam! terii Ganga maili!!!**

ab kia kare koii?

[muqawwee123]

Re: Rivers and their impact on culture

@the_kaur

And it is most difficult source to divide, Punjab and haryana were divided in 65 but there is no proper settlement of dispute among Punjab, Haryana and Rajsthan, no settlement of water between India and Pakistan, this is the only reason I oppose of partitioning any state further as dividing water is always a political quagmire.

This reminds me my Dadi’s words ‘Pani pe lathi marne se pani alag nahin hota’

Aab E Zam Zam, I heard about it before from most reliable source:D, that its water never get polluted naturally like Ganga.

Yes its religiously sacred as it is believed that it came in to being when the little Ismail (son of Abraham AS) hit his feet the scorching land of Makkah, while her mother Hajira (AS) was running between the hills of Saffa and Marwa in search of water. I read that Zam Zam lost its existence and the well was re-discovered just before the birth of the Prophet (SAW)

[the_kaur]

Re: Rivers and their impact on culture

@muqawwee123

Yes its religiously sacred as it is believed that it came in to being when the little Ismail (son of Abraham AS) hit his feet the scorching land of Makkah, while her mother Hajira (AS) was running between the hills of Saffa and Marwa in search of water. I read that Zam Zam lost its existence and the well was re-discovered just before the birth of the Prophet (SAW)

Now I remebered the story, Hajira (AS) was wife of Prophet Ibrahim(AS) who was from Egypt, Prophet(SAW) was muti ethnic personality:k:

[muqawwee123]

Re: Rivers and their impact on culture

@the_kaur

Now I remebered the story, Hajira (AS) was wife of Prophet Ibrahim(AS) who was from Egypt, Prophet(SAW) was muti ethnic personality:k:

Yes Hajira (AS) was from Egypt and Ibrahim (AS) was from Iraq

[SindSagar]

Re: Rivers and their impact on culture

@muqawwee123

Almost in all cultures rivers are part of folklore and culture. River are the source of survival in all agricultural areas, be it Nile of Egypt or Ganga of India.

If we talk about Sindh, its culture is based on three things.

(1) Poetry of Shah Latif and his characters like Sassi, Marvi, etc

(2) Qalandar Shahbaz devoution

And

(3) above all love for river Sindh.

People still name their children Sindhu and Mehran. Many folk songs are related to flow of river Sindh.

How do you see importance of rivers in your culture?

Are there any songs related to such rivers?

Do they form part of folk tales and folk lore?

Ah Yes! Nice Topic…What can I say?

@ninja_hattori

how is muqaddas Sindhu river…?

You Talking to ME:cobra:

@ninja_hattori

Aab e Zam Zam muqaddas hain Hazrat Ismail Alehi salam ki nisbatse!
Sindhu ka pani kis nisbatse muqaddas hai?

If YOU don’t know I am not telling YOU!

@muqawwee123

Infact if today Sindh is called ‘Bab ul Islam’, then its due to the prosperity of the area because of River Sindh which attracted Arab invaders. Without River Sindh, there is no existence of Sindh.

[SindSagar]

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I remember in one thread I had proposed Changing Name of West Pakistan to “SINDHSAGAR”

it is the One Unit Concept!..

and “India” (a British Branded Name) to Ganga Sagar…:k:

**You see countries can come and Go!

But Rivers will always Flow!**

[muqawwee123]

Re: Rivers and their impact on culture

@SindSagar

I remember in one thread I had proposed Changing Name of West Pakistan to “SINDHSAGAR”

it is the One Unit Concept!..

and “India” (a British Branded Name) to Ganga Sagar…:k:

But there are many rivers in West Pakistan’s area besides Sindh including five rivers of Punjab. They are as important culturally and for survival of the people live nearby as River Sindh for people of Sindh. Same goes for India which got many important rivers like Jamna, etc besides Ganga.

[SindSagar]

Re: Rivers and their impact on culture

@muqawwee123

But there are many rivers in West Pakistan’s area besides Sindh including five rivers of Punjab. They are as important culturally and for survival of the people live nearby as River Sindh for people of Sindh. Same goes for India which got many important rivers like Jamna, etc besides Ganga.

In other Words…You is Back Tracking?

Rivers only flow one way!

it is all Water under the Bridge Now!

[muqawwee123]

Re: Rivers and their impact on culture

@SindSagar

In other Words…You is Back Tracking?

I’m not backtracking. I’m following the lesson of Shah Latif for living with others in harmony :cobra:

[Ali_Syed]

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Rivers/water is important for the existence of mankind, thats the reason why the civilizations developed around them. Rivers were natural barriers between different areas, hence mostly the people living on one side of the river had similar culture as compared to the people living on the other side.

[SindSagar]

Re: Rivers and their impact on culture

@muqawwee123

I’m not backtracking. I’m following the lesson of Shah Latif for living with others in harmony :cobra:

You are right,

However Daryai Sindh has the Unique distinction of being the only River in this World of ours to have named a Religion “Hindu” after it plus a sub continent after it “Hind”

Which other River does that?

Name One???

[muqawwee123]

Re: Rivers and their impact on culture

@SindSagar

You are right,

However Daryai Sindh has the Unique distinction of being the only River in this World of ours to have named a Religion “Hindu” after it plus a sub continent after it “Hind”

Which other River does that?

Name One???

You got a valid point, but there are countries which were named behind rivers.

Like Brunei on the name of Brunei river, Congo got its name from Congo river, Gambia (Gambia river), Jordan (River Jordan)

[SindSagar]

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^ there a great big difference between A Sub Continent and a leetle bitty Country!..

[muqawwee123]

Re: Rivers and their impact on culture

@Ali_Syed

Rivers/water is important for the existence of mankind, thats the reason why the civilizations developed around them. Rivers were natural barriers between different areas, hence mostly the people living on one side of the river had similar culture as compared to the people living on the other side.

Exactly… So how the culture of Lahrois living near Ravi is different from Faisalabadis / Chinyotis living near Chenab?

[muqawwee123]

Re: Rivers and their impact on culture

@SindSagar

^ there a great big difference between A Sub Continent and a leetle bitty Country!..

But each culture got importance for the people to whom it belonged. If Egypt didn’t get name from Nile, it doesn’t mean that its less important for Egyptians. My point is yes River Sindh is important for people of Sindh. Its Sindh on whose banks old Indus civilisation (Moen Jo Daro) prospered, but again we can’t denounce the importance of other rivers of the area and impact on the culture of people.