Calm down woman. I am not your buddy, let this be true in perpetuity.
Either I cherry pick your posts, or I respond to the most absurd ones, I will leave such judgements to you. But every time you make a generalization about a group of people, either out of sheer ignorance or deep-rooted insecurities, you can always expect one of them to step up and hand it back to you on a platter.
As tempting as it may be to do it again, I think I have already put you in your place, or at least as much as I could staying within the bounds of decency. But if you are going to be dheet about it and ask for more, or if it didn't live up to the level you are used to, I am sure someone else here would be glad to oblige.
Wow no wonder you guys have the reputation that you have, it is always the cowards that try to bully the ladies. If this is what people want to go back to the sewer for than so be it
Wow no wonder you guys have the reputation that you have, it is always the cowards that try to bully the ladies. If this is what people want to go back to the sewer for than so be it
You can be in lala land without drugs, I have never in my life in the west been asked to bribe any one, I hear in the land of the pious you cannot go an hour without someone asking for Rishwat, Groping women in bazaars is a famous Pakistani Sport, too bad it is not in the Olympics, that would have been a Gold for sure. If a child gets touched we issue orange alert, we mobilise forces and arrest the Perv. In your society the Pervs touch children, sporting Daris, Tasbees Namaz Rozas and demand respect due to their strict observance of religion.
Bad things happen in YOUR society too, Eliminator.....they happen ALL the frickin' time.....and the perpetrators of these crimes are undeterred by religion, the pricks of their conscience, sounding of orange alarms, the wide broadcasting of red alerts, and the dire consequences of breaking the laws. It happens everywhere. Associating these acts with religion or a race is exactly the kind of warped, tunnel-visioned mentality that breeds animosity. That's exactly the mentality you're conveying and you are blind to it.
With the way the world is today, I don't think there are many generalizations that hold true anymore, certainly not ones about girls raised in Pakistan vs. girls raised in the West. I've seen every personality type from both places. Family, location, education, and such might tell you some things, but there really is no guarantee, especially because people have lives that are increasingly private and separate from the rest of the families. You just have to be willing to take time to get to know a person, and avoid mapping some stereotype onto her.
Do women raised abroad perhaps face more rishta issues? Yeah, probably, especially because parents have to pay special attention to building a large enough social circle of Muslims/Pakistanis, and that develops over years. But with that knowledge in mind, you can prepare yourself when the time comes, and open your mind to the fact that the best spouse for your child is not necessarily who you pictured ages ago.
Yeah, but try as hard as we may, we have nothing on the inbreeding South, or the Vatican when it comes to touching children . The West is also the largest producer and consumer of child pornography. We couldn’t even produce a single bed-wetting twisted serial killer, so yeah you have us beat there too . See what I did?
I hope this time you are rewarded for your e-bravery. Please don’t slap me with tofu.
Bad things happen in YOUR society too, Eliminator.....they happen ALL the frickin' time.....and the perpetrators of these crimes are undeterred by religion, the pricks of their conscience, sounding of orange alarms, the wide broadcasting of red alerts, and the dire consequences of breaking the laws. It happens everywhere. Associating these acts with religion or a race is exactly the kind of warped, tunnel-visioned mentality that breeds animosity. That's exactly the mentality you're conveying and you are blind to it.
You are comparing the safety and security and law an order situation in Pakistan to the west, seriously??? I personally don't know of any girl or child that has been touched inappropriately here, many Pakistani girls had shared with me that they got touched on a regular basis in Pakistan going to school or shopping, the pervs would have fingers sticking out in the female compartments of the buses. I bet you anything that a good looking girl goes out for a walk at night time ad will get assaulted by your pious country man,
Women in Pakistan are no longer so backwards. There is a progressive class but then all around the world there is increasing extremism and religiosity. And with that comes a lot of cultural baggage like - girl should be married by 25, preferably 18 in some areas. It's like Muslims are going backwards in their development in some ways with the excuse of religion
But there is definitely a class of girls in Pakistan - ambitious and driven and if it comes to a rishta vs their career, they'll put off stupid rishtas and complete their education first. I'm seeing a lot of girls going for masters now before marriage.
But then there are families that have gone backwards and are obsessed with girls marrying young. Wanna being religion into this? They forget most of the women the Prophet SAW married...
Take a nice whiff of the sewer and ponder about your life, I cant wish things to be any worse, I believe our aircrafts deliver tofu on a regular basis.
You are comparing the safety and security and law an order situation in Pakistan to the west, seriously??? I personally don't know of any girl or child that has been touched inappropriately here, many Pakistani girls had shared with me that they got touched on a regular basis in Pakistan going to school or shopping, the pervs would have fingers sticking out in the female compartments of the buses. I bet you anything that a good looking girl goes out for a walk at night time ad will get assaulted by your pious country man,
In all the many summers I have visited Pakistan, I have never, Alhumdolillah, been assaulted in the bazaars, streets, etc. I'm not saying that it doesn't happen at all; I am simply sharing my personal experience. As for the post which you've quoted, I am not comparing the efficacy of law enforcement between Pakistan and the West; nor was my intent to downplay the importance of law enforcement. What I meant is that the person who is hell-bent on committing a crime won't be deterred by religion, or security measures, or even consequences of breaking a law. Such people are everywhere and it's wrong to associate it with Islam as Eliminator has done in his post; do you not see anything wrong with that line of thought? It's bad enough that people who engage in such vile acts portray a bad image of Muslims.....which the West (media, etc) will take advantage of.....it's worse when Muslims themselves attach such acts to Islam thus perpetuating negative stereotypes.
In all the many summers I have visited Pakistan, I have never, Alhumdolillah, been assaulted in the bazaars, streets, etc. I'm not saying that it doesn't happen at all; I am simply sharing my personal experience. As for the post which you've quoted, I am not comparing the efficacy of law enforcement between Pakistan and the West; nor was my intent to downplay the importance of law enforcement. What I meant is that the person who is hell-bent on committing a crime won't be deterred by religion, or security measures, or even consequences of breaking a law. Such people are everywhere and it's wrong to associate it with Islam as Eliminator has done in his post; do you not see anything wrong with that line of thought? It's bad enough that people who engage in such vile acts portray a bad image of Islam.....which the West (media, etc) will take advantage of.....it's worse when Muslims themselves attach such acts to Islam thus perpetuating negative stereotypes.
When most of the population is like this than it is not stereo type, When I went there for a week I did not see one person that was honest in their dealings, started with custom, immigration, porters, taxi, Dood wala, butcher, mixing bricks with chilli, even selling fake life saving drugs all the time saying namaz and tasbeeh, where I come from I respect what you do not what you say, I see amazing people on a daily basis, my nephews canoe club is run by volunteers, they come and scrub and clean and fix and repair stuff for free, they volunteer to drive kids thousands of miles without a penny in compensation, yes they show skin, have a drink, dance and yet do good for society..If someone shows me a hijab and has done nothing to better society, they can keep their Hijab. The volunteer President of the club did two 18hr shifts for the team at the Casino...with no compensation, I audited the club and not a penny missing. I never lock my door or my car.
Eliminator, you will not get to know every muslim well enough to see their actions. That said, you can't rush to assume that every bearded, tasbeeh-rolling guy is a child-molestor. Where is the logic in that? For those whose actions do contradict their words or professed beliefs......criticize the actions or the person....not Islam. Islam does not condone or encourage hypocrisy and corruption. If you blame the religion itself for these two ills, then that right there shows you need to learn more about the religion.
Eliminator, you will not get to know every muslim well enough to see their actions. That said, you can't rush to assume that every bearded, tasbeeh-rolling guy is a child-molestor. Where is the logic in that? For those whose actions do contradict their words or professed beliefs......criticize the actions or the person....not Islam. Islam does not condone or encourage hypocrisy and corruption. If you blame the religion itself for these two ills, then that right there shows you need to learn more about the religion.
I think it might do you good to learn a bit more about religion, I did my research.
I knew this Shawns person was fishy and fake the moment I read his so called glorified narrations about the perfect life and family he does not seem to have. Didnt see the link with eliminator though, lmao.
Women in Pakistan are no longer so backwards. There is a progressive class but then all around the world there is increasing extremism and religiosity. And with that comes a lot of cultural baggage like - girl should be married by 25, preferably 18 in some areas. It's like Muslims are going backwards in their development in some ways with the excuse of religion
But there is definitely a class of girls in Pakistan - ambitious and driven and if it comes to a rishta vs their career, they'll put off stupid rishtas and complete their education first. I'm seeing a lot of girls going for masters now before marriage.
But then there are families that have gone backwards and are obsessed with girls marrying young. Wanna being religion into this? They forget most of the women the Prophet SAW married.../QUOTE]
It has nothing to do with religion, families wanna marry young because, when girls are 18-22 vs 25-35 they are easier to control and manipulate. Someone who is 25 wont easily handover money or sell their jewlery if her inlaws want it. Im sure looks have something to do with it as well. But I really think its because they are easier to control and manipulate