Religious use of Pakistani girls

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You're injecting your own perception of modesty here, and that's not what I was discussing. I was pointing out the hypocrisy of making women the top of the pyramid for the symbolic honor of the family, yet immediately thrashing her verbally or physically (honor killings), when it is percieved that she has trespassed the boundaries society has layed down for her. It's almost perfectly acceptable for men to screw around, but when a woman does it, everyone is up in arms.
You can take your issues with Western women and shove it. This is not the topic. We're talking about how women in our cultures are shamed by the men who can't treat them with respect. There is no respect in spitting in the face of a woman who you might think is loose. It's obvious that you're as much a part of the problem as the men I was discussing. You demean a woman because of her sexuality.
And btw, pre marital sex is NOT ok with me. You're just too blind to see what I wrote rather than trying to degrade someone else. Look at home before you want to degrade other people. We've got some serious hurdles to cross ourselves.

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Matinee, good posts... I agree

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Finally someone!!!!!!! what of the male whore visitors!!!!!!!!

really people! the women are victims, because no women, unless mentally ill would like to be a prostitute, thus women can only be forced to this. Thus women are merely victims! who need our protection! men on the other hand propogate this stuff. therefore! men need to be punished for getting prostitutes!

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why you again and again bringing "honour kilings"...who the hell justify it...and which version of islam allows this...this is just the cultural norms...jahalat...uneducated bapeople who do this...because of lack of education and poverty...why you not tell those fashionable...fund-eaters...modern and enlighted women of NGO's to put some funds they get from West and USA to erradicate povert and jahalat instead of meetings in cold rooms of Marriot with high tea on "poverty" !!!!!

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you are right...if women are compelled to do this...nobody can say anything to them...also males who are responsible must be brought to justice...but thats not only the case that women are not willingly involved in it....whats about the "Red line areas" and "diamonds markets" spreading in every city of Pakistan and india....and West also...!!!!!

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so you are right...culture needs to be changed...means mentality of men....so where it includes the so called "freedom" of Western influenced women thats change this attitude and mentality !!!!!!

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They are also working to close down music and cd shops in Islamabad fool. Justify that!

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How is Abeer Khan a hate mongerer?
She is trying to support her fellow women against the indoctrination of these braindead mullahs...

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She looks brain washed, not Mullahs. :D

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http://stopdesi.com/view_video.php?viewkey=04a438616ff7bdb3f743&page=1&viewtype=&category=mr

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To abeer/Mrs abeer, i have a question. What is the source of the news that you have posted? You failed to post any links to news sites or such so just wondering .......

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Have you seen all threads by abeer khan? it seems She'on a mission.

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Banks dealing in interest are not a social disease, wow. I guess any muslim with a hint of Islamic knowledge knows thats...

I never said that the objective they are trying to achieve is the bad one, it's the way I donot agree with.

I agree to you with some differences, addict gives it a sound of person oppressed, while in the case of whoring, these men go to the whores not because they are addicted but because they feel they can get away with it. Which is precisely what happened in the case that the bandit queens did not catch any whores or the users. So in your words no drugs were caught, no drug addict was found and the supplier was abducted with squat as an evidence.

I know the situation in Pakistan is really bad but this is my whole argument if everyone starts doing their own version of vigilante justice there will be total chaos.

I don't live in US but I am aware of the citizen's arrest, to apply CA in this case where are the whores who were selling themselves? where are the buyers of their services? What evidence have been provided so far against these abducted women? If not why not? So my brother don't call it CA it is a clear cut case of abduction.

What is the garautee now. Any Muslim with a trace of Islamic knowledge knows that abduction of anybody even a criminal is not allowed but it's happening. Hell same people even abducted a six month old child.

You can listen to Ghamdi's interview for one on this topic on GEO.

Unfortunately he did not take the action himself, he sent girls to do his deed, so later if somebody will be arrested for abduction it won't be him. Really Kudos for being so shrewd.

Which is not possible when people start their own justice system.

OK.

Google it you may find it online, I saw it on TV.

It's the people like this madrassah who are polluting the whole generation for their own personal gain. Allah will never forgive them.

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Are you parroting me?:D Is this the best you can do? :)

As for my reply just read your own signature. May Allah bless you.

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i agree with hareem01...she is on mission of some NGO.... :D

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no.

is ghamidi an alim.

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As he talks sense he is.

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Hes not an Alim.

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ghamdi is a ghadda...

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I totally support Maulana Abdul Aziz sahib in his Mission, he is son of Maulana Abdullaah Sahheed r.a ...