If you visit a graveyard in the subcontinent and Iran in particular, you can see the kind of things they do over there. Asking the dead directly for help, prostrating to them as well as doing black magic. I have yet to see what type of levelling they did on the graves, if they removed the signs of who was buried in them, perhaps it was because they didn't want people to do their practices on them.
For example in Syria (which is ruled by Alawi Shiites), their is a building constructed over the grave of Saiyidina Ameer Muawiya radiyallahu anhu, and shias urinate over there, spit on it and throw stones etc out of hatred. So it's locked for the visitors. If you have youtube activated, you may check that.
So it's very much probable that the shias were doing shameful acts near the graves of Uthman ra, Ummul Mu'mineen Aisha ra, Hafsa ra and the rest of companions in Baqi' because they hate these companions from the bottom of their heart. And you know well we can't stop shias from visiting the holy lands. Therefore what Saudis did, does make sense to me.
Now thats just an assumption not enough for destroying graves of holy people.
If you have performed Umrah or Hajj, you should appreciate the kind of facilities they provide for that. Quran has allowed to do business out of these rituals as far as I know. At least they are not involved in corruptions from these acts of worship. No other nations have the ability to manage hajj and umrah as efficiently as they do.
commercialization and spirituality are different things. IMO such commercialization lead the poor visitors in complexes. If you can provide equal facilities to all thats good, but if poor people have to pass through this trauma during their visits to holy places, it kills the purpose.
Oh really? So it was all due to Shias? They destroyed ALL islamic history and made Makkah another Vegas only due to shias?
Well, c*an kharijis explain if they will do the same thing with prophet's own grave as well? Will you destroy it too*?
You guys also destroyed many shrines in pakistan and killed several Muslims. Was it also due to Shias? And when you do bomb schools in Pakistan, do you do it due to Shias as well?
lol.
I will discuss this in my new thread about grave worship, in sha Allah.
You and secular? Last time I checked you were showing hatred for Saudis because of their Israel connections?? :)
So? Secular doesn't mean atheist. It only means one who wants to keep religion separate from state.
Saudis have destroyed Islam and Muslims even more than Israelis could ever do. So I do consider them worse than Israelis. And what I say here has nothing to do with religion. Even non Muslims can see this.
commercialization and spirituality are different things. IMO such commercialization lead the poor visitors in complexes. If you can provide equal facilities to all thats good, but if poor people have to pass through this trauma during their visits to holy places, it kills the purpose.
According to a holy saying of the Prophet s.a.w, the fitnah of this ummah is wealth and money. Saudis and the rest of Muslims are after money too, nothing surprising.
So? Secular doesn't mean atheist. It only means one who wants to keep religion separate from state.
Saudis have destroyed Islam and Muslims even more than Israelis could ever do. So I do consider them worse than Israelis. And what I say here has nothing to do with religion. Even non Muslims can see this.
Let's talk about the religious discrimination against Sunnis by the hard core shias of Iran.
I will discuss this in my new thread about grave worship, in sha Allah.
Yeah. And that thread will include fatwas about how anyone who disagrees with that concept is a kafir and a mushrik.
do you really think I don't know this violent khariji cult?
Yeah. And that thread will include fatwas about how anyone who disagrees with that concept is a kafir and a mushrik.
do you really think I don't know this violent khariji cult?
Kharijis are basically those who do takfir on the companions. That is the beginning of this cult. Now you decide which sect does takfir on the companions. Which sect claims that Abu Bakr, Umar, Uthman, and the rest of companions and mothers of believers were all hypocrites and kafirs (except 5 people)?
Which sect excludes itself out of the mainstream of Islam and becomes Khariji??
Kharijis are basically those who do takfir on the companions.
Which sect excludes itself out of the mainstream of Islam and becomes Khariji??
Kharijis are those who do takfir on ALL Muslims who disagree with them. They consider jihad against them valid and usurpation of their properties and women Islamic. It is only one such cult present today. And it is that same Talibanic cult.
It is this cult which has excluded itself from mainstream Islam. Because obviously no Muslim will destroy Islamic historical sites, including getting ready to destroy the grave of islam's prophet, and collude with Zionists.
Every country have its own constitutional law and minorities in that country one way or another have to follow those laws. For example: In Bucharest there is only 0.03% Muslims and their kidz are forced to study religious book of their. Moreover the kidz aged 7+ hates muslims b’coz they think they all terrorist.
Simple is that one who wants their must follow their law.
Every country have its own constitutional law and minorities in that country one way or another have to follow those laws. For example: In Bucharest there is only 0.03% Muslims and their kidz are forced to study religious book of their. Moreover the kidz aged 7+ hates muslims b'coz they think they all terrorist.
Simple is that one who wants their must follow their law.
Alright then shias must stop ranting the song of shia sunni unity, and ittehad-bayn-al-muslimeen and the dramas their ayatullas do on tv and on the media.
And then shias and the rest shouldn't complain if hard core sunnis (Wahabis etc) try to force their version of Islam in Pakistan or the rest of sunni dominated countries.
Saudi Arabia shouldn't also be bashed by shias then.
Sonador, leave shia sunni aside and tell me what u think of those poepls who consider Islam as a cult and spread through swords. It is not a religion but a cult which astray peoples from right path. Have u came across these peoples or even tried to answer them?
Some try to unite both shia sunni and some others don't. Best is come to the common grounds which are in both of us. Differences can be talked later on.