Is it an argument to the topic at hand?
very poor approach of discusing things.
How fool i would be if someone ask me about sectarianism but i, instead of acknowledging the fact that sectarianism exists, start giving argument that sectarianism is similar to racism.
You can't see people in bad light just because of their culture. Human-beings are complete package that include cultural traditions they believe, religious ideology (wrong or right) they follow. I would reiterate, if a religion can't tackle tribal or ethnic divisions, it failed in that particular area. No harm to accept the realities.
I would rather say that sectarianism came into religion because of** tribal conflicts so the root cause is the racism**.
Thats what is the story of conflict between Banu Hashim and Banu Umayya.
You can't see people in bad light just because of their culture. Human-beings are complete package that include cultural traditions they believe, religious ideology (wrong or right) they follow. I would reiterate, if a religion can't tackle tribal or ethnic divisions, it failed in that particular area. No harm to accept the realities.
Religion does not gaurantee something unless you are ready to accept it from heart.
esiest way is to resort to attack religion so continue...
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Thats what is the story of conflict between Banu Hashim and Banu Umayya.
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They would be fighting for other interests as well but not for the growth of the religion. Similarly people of sub-continent are actually themselves racists but blame religion.
Religion does not gaurantee something unless you are ready to accept it from heart.
so is the case with charters of all the entities.. be it Punchayata, Jirga, organizations like UNO .. everything is goody goody on face, until its time to practice what is being preached.
PS: Attacking religion is not equal to accepting failure of religion
so is the case with charters of all the entities.. be it Punchayata, Jirga, organizations like UNO .. everything is goody goody on face, until its time to practice what is being preached.
PS: Attacking religion is not equal to accepting failure of religion
You are so enlightened with 'Religion', I am not that much. you win.
as you are unable to find the difference between uno charter and religion, i can give you a tip to modify your signature and make your victory rock & solid. but maybe rules do not allow.
As an outsider, I would say that often most Pakistani people have no clue about what they are saying, honestly. For examples, the boys (I won't call them men) who call themselves 'liberal' in the great PA forum in fact quite blatant fascist tendencies, it ranges from protesting about banning an entire political party because you don't like the way how they look or lusting after a politician's blood because you don't like what he says - yet the person standing next to them is an extremist. How pathetic is that? The amount of time I cringe when I read such rubbish on that forum. Goodness.
Similarly, I find most people in Pakistan or in Sub-Continent are involuntarily racist. Yes, I say because they often have no idea what it is that they are saying and why they are saying that. Their little racist jibes are usually the result of the stereotypes, old proverbs and experiences that have been passed down from generation to generation. They basically beat the drum about same old stereotypes and generalization without really harbouring any menace and hostility in their hearts. Well I am sure most people do, but some of them are just too stupid and lost to even work on something like that. Now my grandmother (bless her) can get away with saying that all tribal men eventually fire shots at their wives or keep them locked in the house, because she hasn't put a foot outside Punjab all her life (though she's been to most European countries and lived in USA for good 10-12 years - bit ypu know how old people are like). However, if I believe and repeat what my grandmother has told me about tribal Pathans, I would never be able to go all enthusiastic over the fact that Afridi men are absolutely gorgeous! The most beautiful and lionheated men, who really would give and take life for you, if they had called you their friend. Very kind, very protective, hospitable and generous. However, poor granny would believe none of that and stick to her 'all Pathans have a terrible temper and they can shoot their own wives and sisters if they see them without their burqa'.
While there is the case of racism in Pakistan and in neighbouring countries, there's actually a bigger problem with severe lack of political correctness. Now in Western countries, a mere slip of tongue could cost you your job. However, only in Pakistan a 22 year old Oxford graduate would quite proudly stir racial tensions and offend the largest portion of the total population by pulling a race card to explain why a definitely corrupt and most incompetent civilian government of all time failed to get re-elected. While the people in Sindh cheered for that little brat for his racist remarks, but civilised in countries like England (ironically where he actually got all his education from) his career would have been laid to rest right at that moment. I guess people in Pakistan are racist because they know they'll get away with it. They don't need to mask their prejudices or keep them safe and hidden somewhere in the depths of their hearts.
as you are unable to find the difference between uno charter and religion, i can give you a tip to modify your signature and make your victory rock & solid. but maybe rules do not allow.
Lets agree to disagree on the point and agree that we both see religion from different angles.
This is a classic example, sometimes we dont even realize and make fun of others without keeping in mind their sensitivities.
Nazrana Yousufzai @NazranaYusufzai](https://twitter.com/NazranaYusufzai) 15h
I have great regards for PTV super stars Bushra Ansari-Anwar Maqsood and Mion Akhrat But their racists jokes against Pashtu wd always hurt
Discrimination is the point, racism, religion, regionalism are just mode of discrimination. Oh I missed the most important one, casteism :), but if one is smart, these are very good mode of gaining political power in Sub-continent. People here are over emotional and can be used to political purpose easily. they have nutrition level of what hitler used to give to Jews in Ghettos but can still kill each other in the name of any of above :D
Discrimination is the point, racism, religion, regionalism are just mode of discrimination. Oh I missed the most important one, casteism :), but if one is smart, these are very good mode of gaining political power in Sub-continent. People here are over emotional and can be used to political purpose easily. they have nutrition level of what hitler used to give to Jews in Ghettos but can still kill each other in the name of any of above :D
obviosuly.. discrimination leads to intolerance and intolerance creates further discrimination. People are okay with one kind of discrimination, but selectively condemn other kind of discrimination. To get rid of discrimination, we need to condemn all kinds of discrimination.
I don’t think that these three legends ever crossed their limits and called be racists anyways. Moin Akhtar (Late) was quite down to earth person and I don’t think that he got anything against any community. He did parodies of Punjabi, Bihari, Sindhi, Bengali, Pathan all races but not in offending ways.
I don’t remember Bushra Ansari throwing jokes at Pathans. She did parodies of Punjabi ladies, but that can only be termed hilarious like this one:
Comedy by Bushra Ansari Posted by Shahid Parvez Ch. - YouTube](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EBMO9rg96EA)
Anwar Maqsood has always shown responsibility, as a writer and therefore equally popular among all communities.
Discrimination is the point, racism, religion, regionalism are just mode of discrimination. Oh I missed the most important one, casteism :), but if one is smart, these are very good mode of gaining political power in Sub-continent. People here are over emotional and can be used to political purpose easily. they have nutrition level of what hitler used to give to Jews in Ghettos but can still kill each other in the name of any of above :D
culture in its essence is also a discrimination by that logic.
I did that and it got a reason behind it which is mentioned in my posts in this thread. When Ali said that 'people of sub-continent are most racist', then I added what are the factors that have made them racist to this degree and obviously discrimination in the name of sectarianism had contributed a lot in polarization of our society besides discrimination in the name of race, language, etc.
Ali's first post got reference to it.
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It's Allahs command that we were born to a particular house hold, if he wished we could have been born 50 Kms to the east (from Lahore) in a Sikh Indian household.
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Just change Sikh with Qadiyani or Shia and think of tolerance level of society, if this is a public statement.
But I’m not authority on the matter. Just sharing my views without attempting to win the battle 
