Re: quota system and Pakistan
MashaAllah. I always thought you belonged to "khata peeta gharana" (well to do family).
However it is important to note the benefits to Bihari community thanks to Pakistani Quota (both official and unofficial).
Bhutoo family rule brings more Sindhi Topi (distinctive Sindhi cap) to every major city including Karachi and Islamabad.
Still you can simply get the stats of Karachi and Hyderabad and see how many Sindhis are in some position of power.
Sure Sindhis "didn't work that hard", however continuous discrimination for 40 years did play a role.
Think about this. Say if Lahore people had set a quota for Punjab urban (Lahore city) and blocked off villagers' access to Punjab university until 1984. It would be very easy to say that Punjab villagers are just paindoos and they can't work. Whereas the Lahore city folks could make pompous @SS statements as to how hard they had worked.
You folks need to read history, to realize that Sindhis have been treated almost like blacks in America. They probably will need some preferential treatment for time to come.
Agreed Fraudz!
We should replace quota system with "proportional representation" for extremely low ratio portions of the country. This is just humane way to look at the poor of our naiton.
Believe me urdu speaking and Punjabis have done so well after 1947, that their gain has been better than a gold rush.
This doesn't mean there is no poverty in Karachi or Lahore. There is.
However we must play nice with each other, or the other option is bigger anarchy and even fewer jobs.
I hope you understand the realities. BTW Urdu Speaking people have a real quota of 11% which is higher than our population in the country.
my point is simple, teh system as it is now is not working, not at city level, not at provincial level and not at federal level. It needs to go. Equal Opportunity type programs to serve under priovilieged are fine, but the definition has to be sorted out. currently a kid with 92% marks from some impoverished and underprivilieged family in some slum of Karachi will get booted off teh list to make room for some interior sindh loaded family's kid with 9% less than this kid. Know what I mean.
I am all for giving the needy a helping hand, but the definition of needy is completely screwed up, and even if we go with this definition, it does not look like teh current quota system has really done much to help anyone.
so how we got here, who got helped and who got screwed is something we can disagree on, but that is not even important. The important part is what we have agreed already
its broken...and needs to go
As far as khata peeta gharana, teh family left a lot, and moved here because they believed in the cause, many people of my family were active members of the pakistan movement. The story is similar to others that they lived in a small flat in tower area, the male siblings gave private tuitions, worked while studying, but the result is that of my dad's family of 9 siblings the least educated ones are the 2 eldest brothers who had bachelors degrees and ran their businesses, others all are doctors, engineers, chartered accountants and phds. The reason they never needed the crutch of quota in their educational careers, is because they were always at the top of their class and did not need it. not that places like Imperial, Cambridge and Mcgill had quotas for them to begin with :)
My mothers side had tougher times and took longer for them to bounce back, but they did alhumdulillah. but in their case my mum's siblings worked hard all their lives, but it was their kids who saw success because their elders had sacrificed and worked hard to provide the ir kids the opportunities they themselves did not have because they moved.
