Question about Indian Muslims..

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Pakistanis atleast stand up fr themselves.. Be it in Kashmir or anywhere else, we stand up for our own. I know your gonna bring Bagladesh into this, but let me tell you that I would have fought for the rights of Bengalis had I been there. Indian Muslims will let you kick them to the curb and just turn away with their tails between their legs. And forget about standing up for their own, when you cant even defend youselves then who can you you stand up for. If nothing else, this was one of the reason for Pakistan, so we wouldnt have to be beholden to the mob mentality of the Indian masses…

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Queer you homo. I dont even go to the moque… My assesment is based on ground realites.. If you have proof otherwise, then present it…

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India is a propaganda state.. Your whole history is based on Propaganda.. Forget Nazi state, Indian govt could have given Hitler tips on running a propaganda campaign.. I mean your a product of it yourself..

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Pakistanis are bloody terrorists who dream of getting 72 virgins if die during war for religion. LOL. Is this true??? Pak muslims are fighting among themselves. Stupids killing each other. There is a reason that so many muslims with pak passport are inquired because of the suspection as terrorists.

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The only difference in that Indian muslims can be popular as the number one superstar in the world where as pakistani muslims can be popular as number one terrorist in the world

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A muslim boy visited in US, and u know what people were telling him…
So where is ur jihad(homework)??
Nice Belt, hope there is no bomb attached to it.
What does ur book say, kill people.
Dumb witted morons don’t spread violence.
Most importantly, dreaming of getting 72 virgins if die for religion. What a dream eh…Look at Osama without caring he has married so many times, but so many fools believe in the crap and die.

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There are many who also love India, hope u watched IndiaPakistan cricket series when India visited pakistan. There were more Sikh supporters for India then Hindu ones.

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Muslims in India also u could say are smart, intelligent and talented…

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Look who’s talking. Someone under a dictatorship. Common man grow up!!! and bring democracy in ur country.

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Ok, facts are still facts… Glaring failures of the INDIAN Muslims… I emphasize that to make you happy are..

  1. Never uttered a word when in the early stages of the Kashmiri uprising and even now, Indian army was accused of grave human rights violation by the likes of Amnesty and Human rights watch.
  2. Indian Muslims are silent when even though they are the biggest minority and alomst half the population soon, they have nothing to say for the plight of other Muslims such as the Palestinians. I know many must be passionate about such things, but never lobby their govt to put some pressure on Indian govt which recognizes Israel to change the policy, instead they sit back and watch as their country makes deals wth the Israeli Govt.
  3. They have no say i defense of the 2000 or so Muslims killed in Gujrat, or the countless left homeless.
  4. They take no responsibilty for what their own community does in places like Godhara.
  5. Nothing to say about any issues effecting the Muslim World globaly, even though there are enough of them to make a real differnece in the world..
  6. They leave their fate in the hands of the Hindu Majority. nO REAL POLITICAL ORGANIZATION… No real commitment to any issue outside India or inside for that matter.

This is why Pakistan was created suppose, so we could have our own voice…Not be some butt licking yes men… Anwyas, no point to continuing now… I have only understood one thing from you people. That Pakistan was a blessing, and that Indian Muslims are a bunch of useless panzies!

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patriot u r one ignorent fellow.. grow up son.!!!!:D. U dont deserve any answers. Lock this thread also please..

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1. Never uttered a word when in the early stages of the Kashmiri uprising and even now, Indian army was accused of grave human rights violation by the likes of Amnesty and Human rights watch.

So you really took your text books very seriously. The only problem in kashmir is pak poking its nose in its matters and indian muslims stand against it. You think Indian army doesnt have muslims. Fact: Village next to my home town is muslim majority village and it is called village of pensionars. All of them go to army and serve, and during the kargil most number of soilders who died were from that village. and this is just one instance.

2. Indian Muslims are silent when even though they are the biggest minority and alomst half the population soon, they have nothing to say for the plight of other Muslims such as the Palestinians. I know many must be passionate about such things, but never lobby their govt to put some pressure on Indian govt which recognizes Israel to change the policy, instead they sit back and watch as their country makes deals wth the Israeli Govt.
Let palestinians sove their own problems. We have our own problems to solve. And regarding isreal, all your saudi matoo world is responsible to bring it close to india. Yours is a "pure" islamic country so why do you still take bakshish from america even tho they disrespected quran and killed so many muslims. talk about hipocracy.
3. They have no say i defense of the 2000 or so Muslims killed in Gujrat, or the countless left homeless.
Again do your research.

4. They take no responsibilty for what their own community does in places like Godhara.
Its more a political issue.

*5. Nothing to say about any issues effecting the Muslim World globaly, even though there are enough of them to make a real differnece in the world.. *
how about IOC giving a seat to india since india represent second most number of muslims. If they dont care then why would we.

6. They leave their fate in the hands of the Hindu Majority. nO REAL POLITICAL ORGANIZATION...
I dont understand your problem here. india is a hindu majority country. its a fact and live with it. And its not like hindus are their enemies. And indian political organizations are more real than pakistani ones.
Sham democracy you have, sham govt you have and talking about a perfact india.

**Ofcourse there are issues in india which are not solved yet. This country has faced hundreds of years of opression, enimosity, wars, poverty and social evils. In 60 years you cant expect them to go away. Things are improving and they do take time. **


This is why Pakistan was created suppose, so we could have our own voice...Not be some butt licking yes men... Anwyas, no point to continuing now... I have only understood one thing from you people. That Pakistan was a blessing, and that Indian Muslims are a bunch of useless panzies!

But you didnt achive even a single of the purpose. you cant elect your leader. even if you do then some bandook wala comes kicks/ kills them and take over. and butt liking starts there. Not to forget american butts are kept clean by your leaders. Even after treated and depicted as pet dog you still wag your tail at them. so this is your own voice. eh...
Think waht ever makes you happy man and let indian muslims alone.

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give it up guys, even pakpatriot himself doesnt buy his sputterings about indian muslims being to blame for everything from israel to stray asteroids.

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would you grant right to immigrate to pakistan for indian muslims ?. you did not even accept bihari muslims who fought for pakistan who still get stuck in bangaldesh.

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I would love to allow Indian Muslims to come to Pakistan.. They should invest and live where ever they want. A deal could be made to allow Indian Muslims to be able to freely migrate to Pakistan, but seeing as they have no one to represent them, no chance of that. I still dont know why they didnt allow Biharis back in.. Thats truly sad. Alas, if only I could lead that country... What I cant understand is why the Biharis didnt come back on their own. There are Bengalis living in Karachi, the Biharis could have come back the same way?

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STRAY ASTEROIDS! God Damn you Indian Muslims!

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Bro, do your research, the WORLD knows what your Army did in Kashmir, no one blames us for you Army raping and making people disappear. But I do blame you Indian Muslims because your a bunch of mute, butt kissing yes men.
And Palestinians are just one example. But they deserve the support of their fellow Muslims. Who else is there to support them? Indian Muslim not even saying a word when their own country is making deals with Israel only show the level of depravity that they have sunk too. They should all be ashamed.

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Whenever PakPatriot has asked about Indian Muslims being silent on Kashmir attrocities, the only reply I have seen is something like "it was Pakistan responsible for the unrest".
Well, let's not argue about who is responsible for it. It's another discussion.

Second kind of reply we see on this issue is Pakistan army's doings in 1971.
Again, what Pakistan did does not justify India's wrongdoings.

The point of the question is that Indian government did commit attrocities. And whether Indian Muslims justify the cause of Kashmir or not, THEY STILL SHOULD NOT HAVE BEEN SILENT WHEN ALL THAT TRAGEDY WAS TAKING PLACE.

It's as simple as that. But I only see Indian Muslims trying to circumvent the question.

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instead of indian muslims, it would be good if pakistan would open up for sindhis and NWFP hindus who had to leave behind their entire language, culture and property.

abbas, can you show me a muslim country other than pakistan which thinks kashmir is about one sided oppression of muslims by india? forget indian muslims, even the palestine authority refuses to swallow that for fear of dilution of their genuine cause under such bloated propaganda. the kashmir issue is treated like it is by non-pakistanis - a militant separatist movement, which when financed and armed by outside forces gets crushed ruthlessly. no one sympathizes with terrorism, especially today. not my words, words of the Hurriyat leader speaking from Islamabad.

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queer, you only repeated what I had already indicated in my first post. I am not saying that Indian Muslims should agree with Kashmiris in their freedom movement. Similary, other Muslim countries may not agree with Kashmiris either (many do agree, but that's not the issue here).

So even if Indian Muslims do not agree with Kashmiris, they should still raise their voice for the heavy-handedness their government has shown to crush the movement. It has hurt not just the "criminal" Muslims, but also their families and other common Kashmiris. I am not saying it on my own. Organizations like Amnesty have been criticizing India over its attrocities since long.
Would you think that since AI is criticizing India therefore it support Kashmiri cause? Of course not.
Why did Indian Muslims not raise their voice on these attrocities against their own brethren?
Is it because Indian Muslims were afraid that if they raise their voice then they will be considered disloyal to Indian government? Isn't it?