Punishment for homosexuals (?)

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*Originally posted by Ulti Khopri: *

there is not rule about casting the first stone. every one who commit any type of sin will be executed on earth if caught other wise he will be punished on judgment day.

dear it may look from far an evil or whatever you call it. but when people see this execution in public with thier eyes. then no one will ever think of doing this sin again. that was the philosophy.
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Everyone who sins will be executed?

So people refrain from commiting acts not out of love for Allah but rather out of fear of man.

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*Originally posted by underthedome: *

Everyone who sins will be executed?

So people refrain from commiting acts not out of love for Allah but rather out of fear of man.
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the first part answer is yes.
the second part ? where i said it ?

all individuals who commit any sin are responsible for punishement. if caught in thier life will also be executed on earth and then will pay on judgment day for that sin.
there are people who do crime and never been caught, but Allah is watching all, right? so...

people who have faith on Allah will always fear to Allah not to humans. if we stop ourself from not commiting any sin having fear of human not to Allah. then we have a shaky faith. a true believer always have fear to Allah not to human.

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*Originally posted by Seminole: *
Particurlarly since modern science has indicated that this is a genetic codition.

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"Condition" is just a PC way of saying "Abnormality", Seminole. Also, conditions are treatable, which proves the gay apologists arguments of so-called "lifestyle choice" patently false. Just like liberalism, homosexualtiy is a disease that can be cured! ;)

Should they be killed - no. Should they be in any way coddled and encouraged in their bestial behaviors - no! Should they be allowed any where near children - absolutely not!! It is unconscionable to allow a child to be in an environement where abnormal and unacceptable behavior is presented as normal and acceptable.

Peace To All Who Read This...

Is it PC to call those born with MS, blindness or as conjoined twins a 'condition'? If people are born that way, they are born that way. If it doesn't fit yours or someone else's definition of morally acceptable behavior or 'normal', so be it. It's none of your business or yours to judge. Many find it abnormal behavior to throw others off cliffs. Should these people be coddled? Should right wing self righteous fanatical behavior be treated as acceptable? I think not. Should these people be encouraged to spread their narrow minded views to future generations? God help us.

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*Originally posted by Seminole: *
If people are born that way, they are born that way.

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No one is born Gay. It's all the sickness in the mind. It's against nature and only perverted minds are pro-Gay.

why does it have to be about being pro or con?

cant it simply be.. u acknowledge their sexuality, be it right or wrong.. and let Allah Mian deal with them?

it doesnt mean we agree with their behaviour.. but does that mean we MUST hate them? isnt there any grey area?

pro gay? What the hell is that?

Anwaar, did you chose to be straight or is it a natural instinct that makes you this way (assuming you aren't a closet-homosexual)?

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*Originally posted by sadzzz: *
why does it have to be about being pro or con?

cant it simply be.. u acknowledge their sexuality, be it right or wrong.. and let Allah Mian deal with them?

it doesnt mean we agree with their behaviour.. but does that mean we MUST hate them? isnt there any grey area?
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we must hate.yes we must. why you have doubt ?

Allah hates them. Rasool hates them. why not us ?
is this not more than enough to prove how much Allah hate them that they are ordered to stone ? while keeping in mind Alalh is most merciful. are you trying to prove that you are more merciful than Allah ?
astaghfaaar.

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sadz and underthedoubt: both of u:flower1: please dun feel offended :smiley:

http://www.gupistan.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=153139#post2541944 :slight_smile:

AQ, no worries :)

Ulti Kopri.. i dont even know what to say to that

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*Originally posted by Anwaar Qureshi: *
No one is born Gay. It's all the sickness in the mind. It's against nature and only perverted minds are pro-Gay.
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I suggest you read up on medical studies which show that it is not a sickness, Dr. Qureshi. BTW, many would consider throwing people off cliffs for moral indescretions a perverted idea of justice.

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*Originally posted by Seminole: *
Dr. Qureshi.

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LOL. amazingly that happened to be my cousin's name :-)

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*Originally posted by sadzzz: *
AQ, no worries :)

Ulti Kopri.. i dont even know what to say to that
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read Quran and Hadees and decide what to say. you seems to be nice but you are not clear in some thing or may be the culture factor which stops you to chenge your already set mind. do not mind what western culture is about or our culture is. focus on what Islam says. what Allah says and what Rasool says. no one earth is better than them. what Allah and Rasool has given us. take that. and believe on that. be strong.

No Anwaar, I feel sorry for you. One day you might have a child and it might turn out the child is gay and all the love that you had given them will be turned into hate.

Who knew a religion of peace could also be a religion of hate?

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*Originally posted by underthedome: *
No Anwaar, I feel sorry for you. One day you might have a child and it might turn out the child is gay and all the love that you had given them will be turned into hate.

Who knew a religion of peace could also be a religion of hate?
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is it compulsary to have same sex being gay ?
there could be gays as you assume born gays. but do they have to do sex ?

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*Originally posted by underthedome: *
No Anwaar, I feel sorry for you. One day you might have a child and it might turn out the child is gay and all the love that you had given them will be turned into hate.

Who knew a religion of peace could also be a religion of hate?
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it's upbringing of child that will decide that.. since it is a sickness I know it aint gonna happen unless i let him/her go in a perverted company. so my friend underthedoubt, feel sorry as u may but I am damn proud of what I believe for I believe in the scripture in which there is no doubt.

Zaalikal Kitabu La raiyeba feeh.

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*Originally posted by underthedome: *

Who knew a religion of peace could also be a religion of hate?
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oh yes. it is a dangerous religion for kafir and mushrikeen. read the history. when it comes to do jihaad this religion looks very dangerous to those who are not believers. but in the war we do not kill women, children and elsers. and do not kill people who are worshiping. is it not cool ?

we hate sex and same sex. we do NOT hate gay if he/she is not commiting any sin. once they do the sin. we do hate them. and they are punishable accordingly.

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*Originally posted by underthedome: *

Who knew a religion of peace could also be a religion of hate?
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surely we can't love what God hates.

You can love gays and all and then read your gospel as a story book that talks about people of Lut and city of Sodom but then some day, it will be decided to take out those words too from the book.

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*Originally posted by underthedome: *
Rebel X, from my understanding the Church teaches its followers to "Hate the sin, not the sinner." It does not support the barbaric act of killing someone because of their homosexuality.
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underthedome, but the words here say something else - the statement talks about death to the people who have engaged in such an act.

Leviticus 20:13, "If a man also lie with mankind, as he lieth with a woman, both of them have committed an abomination: they shall surely be put to death; their blood shall be upon them."