go spill some gao maata cola on your head. now say thank to me 
Well no one is asking you to stop preaching but then stop getting your panties in a bunch when your illoigcal religious musings are painted as regressive in this modern world. Actually, I do have some idea of what is Islam. And it is not what you espouse. Constant waving the finger at other practitioners of your faith, is quite unislamic from what I know of this wonderful faith.
Did yu hear, Pundit AQ has declared that you won;t be stoned. He even quoted something. Learn from him…
modern world ? 
Science has proved that to drink urine is harmful for human. modern world you said ? 
you dranked too much that cola. you need now eyes. go check again who he told that.
Then why are you in constant felatio with your camel?
Looking for example at Sura 11, verses 77 and on, we see that Allah did not ask Prophet Lut to kill his people. Allah punished them and saved Prophet Lut.
This was Allah's judgement and punishment. I haven't read a reference within the Quran that suggests that we should kill homosexuals. Killing someone robs them of the to chance to change, grow, or redeem themselves. It robs them of the ability to show more good or to receive forgiveness.
Only Allah can decide if there is no hope left for them.
^ you is a smart lady...
who me ? where ? time to sleep kid 
and stop off topic stupidity
again u are missing everything.. and I repeat everything.
Here is what you need the context of:
1- Hadhrat Lut :as: was not a ruler of Sodom but only a messenger and there was no sharia (law of land given to him) at that time.
2- Islamic Punishment can ONLY be executed by Islamic judiciary government not by individuals.
Oh well, I do see you only beleive in Quran and don’t want to take ahaadeeth in consideration (All seem to be un-authentic in your opinion hence u reject them to follow!)
Clearly, just reading quran is not enough, but the total understanding of the context and background does change the meaning hence the correct interpretation.
^Your point about Islamic sharia is interesting, although if Allah is communicating with him and wants him to kill the sinners, why wouldn't he say so.
The Hadith question is a bit off-topic, so I will address it only briefly. I do believe in the Hadith. But I also acknowledge that Hadith are put together by man and are therefore subject to error and bias (intentional or not). They are not protected in the way that the Quran is. Personally, I will follow the Hadith as long as they do not contradict the spirit of the Quran. I will be increasingly cautious when it involves killing an individual -- I think this is because I have a fundamentally optimistic perspective on humans and believe in the possibility of humans changing for the better with Allah's will and godoness and human compassion.
we are told about Prophet Loot (AS) to get lesson what had happaned to his nation. the nation was comepletly destroyed. Prophet Loot (as) was almost alone. he did tried his all to bring them on the path but he failed and then he asked help to Allah and hence Allah did His job. is that clear ?
now come to Last Prohpeht Muhamamd :saw: he brought a new religion called Islam. We are only allowed to accpet the rules of Islam. what had haened before is just the history lesson to us. Prophet Muhamamd :saw: has made dua to Allah that do not give my nation any disaster like He did to previous nations. Prophet :saw: has set rules and laws of Islam according to Quran and the explaination of Quran is the Character of Prophet Muhammad:saw: and his words which we call Hadees. We get guidence from Quran, Sunnat and Hadees.
The Islamic laws are set by Prophet Muhamamd :saw: and then his companions and then Islamic scholars according to Quran and Hadees.
any question ?
I think as messengers and Gods go Buddha and Jesus had the best message that can be applied.
'love thy neighbor...'
Worry about your relationship with God and stop intervening in others' relationships
It supercedes everything that has ever been conjured up. Those guys knew what they were talking about.
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'love thy neighbor...'
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i dun wanna go offtopic but there is a hadeeth that tells that if one's neighbour remains hungry while the person sleep belly-full, he can't be a muslim.
you are easy to go. good stuff you bring this time not much impresed. you good in writing stuff. do try what you said.
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i dun wanna go offtopic but there is a hadeeth that tells that if one's neighbour remains hungry while the person sleep belly-full, he can't be a muslim.
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yaar stuff like that is around in every religion..nothing novel there. What is important is either God is the judge or muslims are. You can;t be tried twice for the same crime (if indeed homosexuality is a crime) . It is devoid of common sense. You have differnt schools of islamic jurisprudence giving different opinions on punishment, You have one view, Sahar ahs another on it That is what "interpretation" means!!!!! If you can have so many interpretationsof the same message then )as seminole put it), either the message is flawed or no interpreation is correct or all are. You can go around pontificate how yours s the right interpreation but at the end of the day, I can give you my interpretation. Then you are going toget your panties in a bunch. :)
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yaar stuff like that is around in every religion..nothing novel there. What is important is either God is the judge or muslims are. You can;t be tried twice for the same crime (if indeed homosexuality is a crime) . It is devoid of common sense. You have differnt schools of islamic jurisprudence giving different opinions on punishment, You have one view, Sahar ahs another on it That is what "interpretation" means!!!!! If you can have so many interpretationsof the same message then )as seminole put it), either the message is flawed or no interpreation is correct or all are. You can go around pontificate how yours s the right interpreation but at the end of the day, I can give you my interpretation. Then you are going toget your panties in a bunch. :)
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Matusi bhai jaan...
What I am talking about was from the Books of Fiqh, and islamic laws that is agreed upon by all school of thoughts and what Sehar was talking about is her own personal opinion and understanding without knowing the actual ruling. She is stating what she feels comfortable with.
This is the difference.
^ Yes, clearly you know everything about me and my Islamic education.
And because you have read and unquestioningly believe people who lived long ago, you must be right.
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^ Yes, clearly you know everything about me and my Islamic education.
And because you have read and unquestioningly believe people who lived long ago, you must be right.
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sorry if that was not ur personal opinion.
Reference?
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yaar stuff like that is around in every religion..nothing novel there. What is important is either God is the judge or muslims are. You can;t be tried twice for the same crime (if indeed homosexuality is a crime) . It is devoid of common sense. You have differnt schools of islamic jurisprudence giving different opinions on punishment, You have one view, Sahar ahs another on it That is what "interpretation" means!!!!! If you can have so many interpretationsof the same message then )as seminole put it), either the message is flawed or no interpreation is correct or all are. You can go around pontificate how yours s the right interpreation but at the end of the day, I can give you my interpretation. Then you are going toget your panties in a bunch. :)
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most imporant is who follow the Laws of God. Muslims or non Muslims. get it.
The difference between AQ and sehar is AQ is not doing any hanky panky, he is talking with solid reference and quotes of Quran and Hadees. He is not say 'IMO' or not saying 'I am not but I read some where bla' . get that ?
on a humanetarian note: do not think AQ is Muslim, other wise you will not lower your hate to him, but read what he want to convey. it could be hard to digest the truth for you but once in a life do try to accept the truth. i am not god so aren't you. AQ is not quoting from his own. he is bringing stuff from God's book. he is spending time ti litereate people like you. the good thing is to get the good thing not to oppose. it was a friendly reminder. and i ask sorry to you if i hurt you.