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The unfortunate part about human brain is that we believe that what we dont know or cannot prove should not exist.
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No, if we don't know something, we don't say it "shouldn't" exist. All we say is that yeah, we don't know. Do you prefer that when encountered with the unexplainable, we should say that "Santa" did it and when someone makes a claim that "Santa" did it, we cannot even ask you to backup that claim?
Here is how the story goes. Both you and me have this pestering question about what caused what (infinite causality) that our brains yet have no answer for.
So you ask me: "Who created the universe, who was there before big bang.".
I say: "I don't know".
You say: "Well it was God. He created everything"
Since my brain is still stuck with causality, I ask: "What is this God thing and who created this God."
You are now stuck and know there is only one way out i.e to make God immune to causality. So you say: "Well, God created everything and nobody created God, he has been around forever".
But note that you still haven't answered the original causality question. You have just replaced it with a symbol called "God"so that you can sleep better. Its another way of saying that "I don't know so I am going to assume something extravagant so that atleast this pestering question doesn't bother me anymore".
NOTE: Hopefully, both you and me acknowledge that we are just trying to find an answer that suits our minds. So hopefully we shake hands and go our own ways respectifully.
I can understand why people choose or not choose to believe in God. However, the Muslims believe in a lot more than just "There is a God". Can someone please tell me how you know or why you believe:
What are characteristics or nature of this magnificent God? I am looking for something other than "because Quran said so".
Why is this God interested in us more than any other creation? Why does this God act eerily similar to a human? Does God have emotions like humans for example anger, happiness, etc.
What makes you believe that God wanted to talk to you (humans)?
Why Muhammad and why not thousands others who claim to be the prophet?
And so on and so forth you go through tens of questions before one reaches the belief system of organised religion. Did you really believe in Islam after asking yourself these questions?
My whole point is that even if you believe in God, there are hundreds and thousands of various ways you can believe God works his magic. What we need to remember is that at the core, it is simply one's "Opinion" against someone else's opinion about a basic pestering question of life. Just because you feel strongly about your opinion (faith) doesn't mean that I would as well.
TLK
Love is an emotion, it is a biochemical reaction in the brain(can be observed by CTScan)but it is not beyond logic. You won’t believe a person on the street saying I love you but you will believe your wife saying it. The reason if you're mentally healthy and you're fairly certain that someone else loves you, that certainty is completely based on an accumulation of evidence (evidences of the trustworthiness of the person, their act of affection and care, their body language, etc).
Secondly you are claiming that God exists independently of our beliefs concerning him. In other words, that He exists in objective reality and His existence is itself the reason for your belief. This is a claim that demands empirical evidence.
TLK
Love is an emotion, it is a biochemical reaction in the brain(can be observed by CTScan)but it is not beyond logic. You won’t believe a person on the street saying I love you but you will believe your wife saying it. The reason if you're mentally healthy and you're fairly certain that someone else loves you, that certainty is completely based on an accumulation of evidence (evidences of the trustworthiness of the person, their act of affection and care, their body language, etc).
Secondly you are claiming that God exists independently of our beliefs concerning him. In other words, that He exists in objective reality and His existence is itself the reason for your belief. This is a claim that demands empirical evidence.
Humm.. Love can be seen by CT scan?
I know certain emotions can be indirectly seen by nuclear camera including solving of a mathematical question.
Sorry MRI, and yes MRI can be used to see which part of our brain is active in certain activities and emotions.
Here is picture of brain experincing love INSIDE STORY: MRI Scans
The existence of a man or a book doesn't suggest that a god exists, it merely suggests that the religion and its prophet did exist at such a date.
The existence of a book proves that someone wrote it. The existence of a man proves existence of his parents. You can see your post on this screen that proves that you exist.
Existence of this universe with all its complexities proves that there is a ever present creator.
The existence of a book proves that someone wrote it. The existence of a man proves existence of his parents. You can see your post on this screen that proves that you exist.
Existence of this universe with all its complexities proves that there is a ever present creator.
and somehow the existence of a creator doesn't prove the existance of the creator's creator?
there are books, and there are claims. the existence of man proves existence of his parents. yet people believe of faith believe in things like immaculate conception that go against this simple everyday fact.
The existence of a book proves that someone wrote it. The existence of a man proves existence of his parents. You can see your post on this screen that proves that you exist.
Existence of this universe with all its complexities proves that there is a ever present creator.
This claim raises the question of what caused God. If, as some claim, God does not need a cause, then by the same reasoning, neither does the universe.
Physics people can correct me if i am wrong, but as for as i know, physicist beleive that universe did have "birth". The evidence that exists shows that it did have a beginning. So you can't say that universe has always been there.
TLK
Love is an emotion, it is a biochemical reaction in the brain(can be observed by CTScan)
You can observe the brain activity that emotions generate, that is the effect you are talking about, not the cause. Cause has no logic.
Physics people can correct me if i am wrong, but as for as i know, physicist beleive that universe did have "birth". The evidence that exists shows that it did have a beginning. So you can't say that universe has always been there.
Icono, you are right, there are very strong evidence that Universe has a finite age and started about 13 - 15 billion years ago
