or God or supreme being.
Those who do not believe in Allah have their chance to prove that no God , or no Allah exists.
How do you console yourself when you are hit by some calamity ? What calms you down when you are desperate and things are not going the right way ?
We the believers believe that Allah has something better planned for us and that is very soothing and calming.
In your stressful times what helps you cope with it ?
If you do not believe on the day of judgment then what is the force which stops you from committing crimes ?
What about the frameworks society has imposed on you which society has borrowed from religion ? Why do you follow them if you do not believe in the religion from which those rules and laws have been derived ?
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Me too waiting for the answers of this post..
I believe more than everything that Allah is everywhere. Near to our veins.
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me to.
Prove to me that there is not Allah
that's like asking, prove to me that BigFoot doesn't exist, or prove to me that city of Atlantis didn't exist, or prove to me that Unicorns don't exist. So I don't think that this is a valid question.
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And as to your point on "If you do not believe on the day of judgment then what is the force which stops you from committing crimes ? ". I think theres already a thread asking if morality can only be derived from religon. So that question is better suited to that thread.
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the burden of proof lies with the believer. if you believe strongly in something, you should be able to prove it. or be willing to accept the fact that others may not believe in what you can't prove, without feeling offended or challenged.
the burden of proof lies with the believer. if you believe strongly in someth.
True!
the burden of proof lies with the believer. if you believe strongly in something, you should be able to prove it. or be willing to accept the fact that others may not believe in what you can't prove, without feeling offended or challenged.
Exactly ... so one who believes there is no God must prove his belief as well not just the one who believes that God exists.
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its just semantics, USR. if you had to prove the things you believed didn't exist, you wouldn't have time for much else.
Mirch bahi this is not a new debate and for centuries philosophers of religion have tried their witts around this argument for and against God's existance. If it is not yet another attempt to ridicule atheists and agnostics and you are truly curious to seek knowledge and an intellegent answer then I suggest pick up a book about philosophy of religion and you will get a staisfactory answer.
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you cannot prove a negative.
the burden of proof lies with the believer. if you believe strongly in something, you should be able to prove it. or be willing to accept the fact that others may not believe in what you can't prove, without feeling offended or challenged.
Actually I disagree with the first part.
The believer has faith and doesn't need proof. The atheist on the other hand needs the proof. These proofs or non-proofs are not however seen with the scientific methods. These are matters of the heart and a higher understanding.
These second part is true. If a non-believer doesn't see things the way you do...then so be it. After all not all will ever agree on everything in this world..no matter how clear or how vague something it.
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If god did exist Mirch, I am sure he would not want you to be in such a twist over differing opinions and views of others.
The believer has faith and doesn't need proof. The atheist on the other hand needs the proof.
i understand what you are saying; but the original poster is asking for a logical proof, and he isn't an atheist - his belief is faith-based. there is no logical claim made in faith which has to be disproved.
if someone believes in a certain concept which isn't obvious to others, the onus of proof is on the person making the claim. saying "i cant prove it and choose to believe in it without any proof, but if you won't believe me, i demand proof for your claim" is not acceptable. and that is the originally poster's stance.
It's a question TLK Bhai.. when everything has already been written by Allah swt, why is the person (catalyst) punished and blamed for it? Why isn't he pardoned as it was Allah's will?
When a loved one dies people say "It's Allah's will" if a person commits zinnah who's will is it?
if it was in the hand of a human, he/she would never want to die. Because its not in our hands, hence we say its Allah's will. As long as we are living, we have the choices to make. Allah has given us the options.. committing zinnah is something in ur control, while dying can never be.
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worst analogies ITT.
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actually OP makes a good point. What do atheist do when they are in trouble? I might not be religious and my faith in religion can be said skeptical but ive never lost faith in God.
the burden of proof lies with the believer. if you believe strongly in something, you should be able to prove it. or be willing to accept the fact that others may not believe in what you can't prove, without feeling offended or challenged.
I am not offended with your lack of faith. It is not my business what you believe in or do not believe. Atheists always demand from believers to prove existence of a God, atheists should be able to prove non existence of Allah too. But I have many other related questions , if you like to answer those that is fine if you do not that is fine too.
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The very fact that we cannot create life from scratch or prevent death is proof enough that some superior power exists. But then I suppose some people could say oh boom, one fine day everything was created out of nothing, all by itself. Oh well.
It is not just one question , there are many other related questions there, if you care to attempt to answer them that is fine , if you do not fancy that , it is fine with me too.
They are perfectly legit questions too.
Well if you read my posts, I already refferred ur question of morality to another thread where that discussion is taking place.
Now to your question of what people do when they face challenges? who they can turn to for some support? I agree with you. Mentally, it's a huge boost when you can think that Allah is with you and whatever happens Allah will make sure it's best for you. That way you can withstand adversity with a smile, knowing that it happened for a good reason. Less stress that way :) On the other hand, I think this kind of thinking lulls you into a false sense of security, afterall, if Allah has everything planned out for me, why do I need to put in a whole of effort? So you just might be tempted to wallow in your misery, and being contend that this is what Allah has ordained for you.
So I can see pros and cons. Overall, I suppose, you know how they say that ignorance is a blessing and its good to live in a fools paradise, so I agree that having strong faith in God is probably a good thing when dealing with uncertainties in life.