* proud to b muslim*

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:slight_smile: i wasnt going to.. but i felt that i should share this so i did…
every1 has thier own opinion.. i respect them… m not here to argue with any one…:slight_smile:
yeah.. but i learnt alot :slight_smile:

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:)

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Punjabi Kuri:

Do you realize that the story you wrote on that 1st post…and then what you wrote on the 2nd quote above…the situations are COMPLETELY different? If you 2nd quote is accurate, then your mother left you and you brother (and her husband). You, your brother were unfortunately abandoned by your mother…not abducted by your father. And this is completely different from the other thread…where according to that thread started, the girl was taken by the father without the mother knowing. According to that OP, the mother did not abandond that 10 year old girl.

I’m glad you’re happy with your life…but going by your 2nd quote above…your situation is nothing like what the OP wrote on the other thread about that 10 year old girl. You never met your mother…only saw her picture. The 10 year old girl in the other thread was raised by her mother, she knows her mother, and has memories of her. So fortunately for you, you did not go through what that girl (and children in her situation) go through because unlike her, you have had a relationship with your mother.

As for everyone else who wants to indirectly attack me for what I wrote previously:
I don’t post on GS to win a popularity contest. I don’t agree with many opinions I read here…and I certainly don’t expect everyone else to agree with me. I wrote my opinions/thoughts based on OP’s original post…and if I had to do it all over again, based on the information given at that time, I would not change a thing. I stand by my words and my opinions. If you don’t like it, agree with it, think I’m too harsh etc…I’m perfectly ok with that b/c you have every right to your opinion. As for the personal attacks, if its going to make you feel better, then by all means continue to do so. But please don’t think it’s going to somehow upset me or make me change my opinion.

Oh and as for the jab about my need for further education…I will be the first one to proudly declare that I need more education. No matter what degree a person has, I believe everyone needs to continue their education as long as they live. No one ever gets to the point where they can say “Ok, I’m done learning…I don’t need any more education”. So yes, despite all the years of college and post-graduate work, I will continue to need education until the day I die.

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^ Right the critical issue in the first thread was the kidnapping. That's irrelevant here, but it's a key detail that should definitely have been included.

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this is what we are still unable to understand... every one says that my kidnapped us.. but my dad says when he took us to pak at that time she was out with her bf for world tour...
i understand.. but i am also confused about all this... since we grown up.. we have been hearing all different kind of stories..my bhai is a boy he busy himself with other stuff he isnt bothered about all this.. but i am so confused... i n believe always felt k my papa is right...

aur jitna is baray main sochon khud ulajh jati hun...
diff ppl sed diff things.. papa wrong.. mama right.. or mama wrong papa right..

but for me according to my knoweldge n my thinking my papa is right..

rest Allah knows better.. :)

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you seem like a sweet girl PK, I'm glad you've made peace with your situation, it can't be easy...best of luck always

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So you do not have any facts...only the information other people are giving you. Since you were so young when you got separated from your mother, you don't have for a fact what she herself has to say about that situation.

Look, honestly, in a way you were blessed b/c you didn't experience the heartbreak (due to your age at the time of separation). I don't mean to be rude when I say this....but honestly, you have no idea what that 10 year old girl feels. I have personally seen custody situations where children are abducted (children who're old enough to have memories of parents)....and it can be devastating. I know of 2 situations where children were abducted by one parent.....and then were found later and re-united with the lost parent....and it really destroys them mentally. And yes, it really destroys the parent who "lost" the child in the 1st place (I know several other cases where the mom/dad are still searching for their abducted child).

Going by your above post.....you don't know for a FACT whether or not your mother abandoned you...or whether or not you were abducted. Do you know for a fact that your mother moved on with her life and doesn't still wonder whether or not her 2 children are alive or dead? Or is it that other people just told you that she's married and moved on? Just because she may have re-married and had other children....that doesn't necessarily mean that she stopped loving you and your brother (ie. didn't want you guys in her life).

What I think is irrelevant. If you're mentally at peace with your life...that I'm happy for you. But if this is something that bothers you....then once you become an adult (I don't know how old you are right now)............you may want to consider contacting your mother and hearing from her mouth directly as to how she feels about you and your brother. That way you don't have to be confused anymore or live your life wondering whether or not she still thinks about you.

But no matter what....please consider yourself blessed that you weren't taken from your parent at the age of 10.

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we had her contact info.. but now she left that place... no idea where she is

after reading what all you guys said i am confused somewhere

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The best part of the story is u ur bro ur father n ur mum all r happy n contended in their respective lives

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Sorry but you could have stopped after finishing first sentence but decided to rub it in.
Th issue was not controversial from the beggining untill some evil minded and jugmental people to take a shot and started throwing stones on this poor OP without even knowing what the detail of the situation was.

**A child does not have to live with a woman who cares ONLY about her life and runs away with a BF after a year of marriage and trying to fool a man by artificially changing the religion just to get married and even after having have kids.
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OP did not realize she was dealing mean and ugly people online also.

I f she really cared for her kids, she would not have been running around. OP had no idea that people would judge her post based on mean and preconceived ideas.

Yes.

Your reaction is sooo silly. Why could you or anyone ask simple questions to get the right story before jumping the gun?

Do you know what kidnap means? There was someone above who came on high horse and used “Stockholm Syndrome” from his part of ‘his’ body where sun does not shine. :slight_smile:

Kidnap is not what should be used here.

Did you miss the part where she said her father married her after she converted?

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^ The OP suggested that her situation was the same as the one in the other thread, which involved criminal behavior and deceit. It is only later that she posted additional information about the context.

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Please show me where she said exactly where she suggested her dad was involved in criminal behavior.
She said

"i hv been through ths situatio... my father did da same dat guy did... he took me n my elder bro to pak widout telling my mom (non-muslim german)..."

*All it could mean she was taken by her father from her mother. Period.
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First, a crime is only when someone is legally indicted as a criminal. He does not seem to be from her post.

Your word of using 'criminal behavior' is not acceptable.

Her mother knew why he left. And she did not pursue the case. And he turned out to be right in the end.

Both parties are happy, she is happy, .......... but femanazi blood raging act has no boundary which is seen here in this thread.

Somehow he is criminal when his **adulterous ex-wife does not even care for her children or husband.

She Never did by the way as OP suggested.**

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UM. Diwana, your own quote answers your question. It says that her father did what the father in the other thread did, which is kidnap the child and take her to Pakistan without the mother's knowledge. THAT is the criminal behavior I was referring to. Later posts clarified what happened and provided more details about the mother's behavior.

But seriously, you're kidding me right?

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^ :rotfl:

I think he meant “show me what your quote is referring to”. Otherwise, he really did answer his own question.

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:hmmm:

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Look Sahar!

I am not kidding you I have no reason to.

I quoted OP post knowingly.

All I am showing here that calling someone or suggesting someone criminal is wrong unless something is proven.

You used the word criminal behavior without even knowing what it entails.

I even said what it means to be criminal in BOTH threads.

In first thread we do not know and never been told if man left without the consent of his ex-wife.

And in second thread we still do not see if OP's mother even cared to pursue the case.

So the case of abduction or even as some naive people keep using the word of kidnap does not even come in to play.

Hence OP never said her father had criminal behavior.

Some people just assumed and jumped the gun. (in both threads by the way :) )

P.S. Please read carefully.

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Diwana: Also, my use of "criminal behavior" to refer to kidnapping is inappropriate and offensive according to you, but your use of "feminazi blood raging" to describe complex points that you lack the intelligence to comprehend is laughable.

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I can only go by the information that the OP gives us. The OP in the other one characterizes what happened as kidnapping. By stating the issue was the same in this one, this OP led many to believe there was kidnapping involved here too. So of course they reacted. It was only later when she clarified, and others responded to her clarification. Others have understood the nuances and complexities of the situations. Why can't you?

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So what is the verdict?

We both are correct or we both are wrong? Make up your mind. :)

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My friend I just told you no evidence of kidnapping was there in first thread.

I even mentioned in that thread, kidnap and abduction are two different things.