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I think we had to grow up, Hating others don't form your identity. And further we have enough enemies what we need is the friends.
To the First Post:
I think we had to grow up, Hating others don't form your identity. And further we have enough enemies what we need is the friends.
Baghal main churi dabaya huwa friend ya Asteen ka saanp friend. Ya jar katnay wala friend. Ya Ghuddar friend. Dhokay baaz friend. lol
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i know some indians who do similar stuff too. personally id rather eat at a pakistani restaurant than an indian one, the food is a zillion times better. and shop at a desi grocery store that's clean (wishful thinking) no matter if its run by indians pakistanis bangalis whatever.
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Dushman ko friend bananay say wo friend naheen bun jata. Dushman hi rehta hai.
I would love to eat, buy from a Pakistani shop. If I won't find thing I want from a Pakistani store then I'll go to other muslim store if I won't find any muslim store then go to other store.
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sahi baat hai Gr8Heera. dushman ke store pe mat jao, hamla ho sakta hai.
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Heera, aap aisa karein ke apne dil ki nafrat apne bachon ko sikhaiye. AUr phir unke chote chote haaton mein ek gun dedijiye. Phir unse kahein ke jake Indians ka khoon bahao kyun apko vo dushman lagte. Aap America mein KYUN baithe huwe hein??? Apne apne Muslims ko akela India se larne ke liye kyun chorda? Kyun ke aap buzdil hein. Isliye.
Aap jaise log India ke nahin...Musalmanon aur Pakistan ke sab se barde dushman hein. Apki vaja se Pakistan humesha duniya se peeche rahega kyun ke aage dekhne ki apke andar salahiyat nahin hai.
Baghal main churi dabaya huwa friend ya Asteen ka saanp friend. Ya jar katnay wala friend. Ya Ghuddar friend. Dhokay baaz friend. lol
Whatever you say, one had to be realistic about the limitations, this country can't afford enemies. Thats our limitation, we are a poor country with poor people we had to solve alot of real problems which people of this country face daily basis.
If you scream enemy/enemy all the time, when you will play your role as responsible citizen, all i wanted to say is that people are over occupied with this indian phenomena we have to be proactive, rather than just reactive, and concentrate on our problems.
sahi baat hai Gr8Heera. dushman ke store pe mat jao, hamla ho sakta hai.
Nah kis main himmat hai kay hamla karay. Yahan uski to aisi ki taisi. lol
Heera, aap aisa karein ke apne dil ki nafrat apne bachon ko sikhaiye. AUr phir unke chote chote haaton mein ek gun dedijiye. Phir unse kahein ke jake Indians ka khoon bahao kyun apko vo dushman lagte. Aap America mein KYUN baithe huwe hein??? Apne apne Muslims ko akela India se larne ke liye kyun chorda? Kyun ke aap buzdil hein. Isliye.
Aap jaise log India ke nahin...Musalmanon aur Pakistan ke sab se barde dushman hein. Apki vaja se Pakistan humesha duniya se peeche rahega kyun ke aage dekhne ki apke andar salahiyat nahin hai.
Yay dil ki mohabbat hai Jaanu PSquared. Apnay mulk say, apni qaum say apnay musalmanon say aap kia samjho ki watan ki mohabbat aur apnay logon ki mohabbat ko. Aap to goron kay rung main rungi LIBERAL but very religious person ho jo goron ki jhooti khubron pay yaqeen karti ho.
Aap buchchi ho is liaay zara samajh naheen sakti.
Meray buchchay Insha Allah aap say hazaaaaaarooooon darjay bahtar hon gain. Aisi ahmaqana baat naheen karain gay.
Agar ho gaay aap ki tarha to jootay khain gay aur sudhar jain gay you know "maar kay agay bhoot bhagay" Hum to BF ka bhi bhoot us ko jootay maar kar bhaga dain gay kabhi bana kar to daikhay lol.
LOL LOL LOL
Sari buchkana batain kar rahi ho munni abhi tumharay bf bananay aur larkon say saath aik chhut kay neechay reh kar unko parakhnay kay din hain jao meri munni.
Kioon kia America ko aap kay abba ji nain khareed li hai jo hum naheen reh saktay aur aap reh sakti hain aur pakistani honay ka dawa bhi kar sakteen hain wah ray Pisso tera kia banay ga LOL.
Hum pay hukum lago karnay wali aap kon hoti hain mohtarma. Hum apnay marzi kay malik hain. Akhir paisay bharay hain goron kay halaq main fees kay naam pay to rehnay ka adheekar to goray ka baap bhi naheen cheen sakta aap kon ho chai piddi ka shorba.
Apni nationality aap ko thama kay chalay jain. Munni khuwaab say jago subah ho gai. lol
Aray aisay hi thori Unki madad karain gay na maali bhi aur jazbati bhi Insha Allah. Akhir muhibb e watan hain hum koi daish drohi thora hi hain.
LOL hamaray jaisay logon ki wajah say LIBRAL laikin very religious musalmanon ko bari takleef ponhachti hai sirf baton say hi. lol
I enjoyed reading your post and repsonding lol
Whatever you say, one had to be realistic about the limitations, this country can't afford enemies. Thats our limitation, we are a poor country with poor people we had to solve alot of real problems which people of this country face daily basis.
If you scream enemy/enemy all the time, when you will play your role as responsible citizen, all i wanted to say is that people are over occupied with this indian phenomena we have to be proactive, rather than just reactive, and concentrate on our problems.
Meri munni I know all the stories about them the real stories from my parents and relative and I also visited there and know how ppl are you guys can't understand.
You nikkay baloongray you can't understand these hindus and their nature. lol Even muslims and relative muslims.
Have you ever talk to a muslim and hindu of indian about the Pakistan and see their reaction and see what they say.
Jub muslims aik hindu milk ki himmayat kar sakta hai to hum Muslim Pakistani kioon itnay bayghairat ho jain kay apnay mulk, apnay qaum aur apni musalmanon say mohabbat na karain.
You Nikki balongrion can't understand things.
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Meri munni I know all the stories about them the real stories from my parents and relative and I also visited there and know how ppl are you guys can't understand.
You nikkay baloongray you can't understand these hindus and their nature. lol Even muslims and relative muslims.
Have you ever talk to a muslim and hindu of indian about the Pakistan and see their reaction and see what they say.
Jub muslims aik hindu milk ki himmayat kar sakta hai to hum Muslim Pakistani kioon itnay bayghairat ho jain kay apnay mulk, apnay qaum aur apni musalmanon say mohabbat na karain.
You Nikki balongrion can't understand things.
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Why don't you read what i'm writing before replying. What i'm telling you is that we have to concentrate on our own problems, realities and limitations. Is it really hard to understand !
And don't act like an Old wise man your language and choice of words is clearly showing what you are. **
Trust me you can't hide it** :D
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^ :)
Why don't you read what i'm writing before replying. What i'm telling you is that we have to concentrate on our own problems, realities and limitations. Isn't it very hard to understand.
And don't act like an Old wise man your language and choice of words is clearly showing what you are.
Trust me you can't hide it :D
You buchchi dhoka khaing. lol
I'm not wise but old for sure.
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Second paragraph - where do I get this? Real life experience with Americans. Making fun of the south or mockery is like mocking Pathans or making fun of Sikhs. It is a joke. However you ever see an American speak about how the country should disintegrate? Or rip into the basic foundations of the country? You see an American insult the founding fathers or make a mockery out of their sacrifice? I haven't. Yet I have seen all this on this very Proud Pakistani website.
Regarding the Govt of India. I am sorry but the common man does not define politics or government policy. A very small few elite do. You can easily see that with Bush's re-election and the power of the people during the Vietnam war. How many presidents did that last? 3? Yeah that shows real power.
Regarding third generation Pakistanis and Indias, they are just that third generation. They are expats. They are more western than Pakistani. They have no clue what happens in reality save for the baised news sources they read.
Thirdly you spend a few months out of a couple of years there and thus don't have a full grasp of the situation on the ground. That again is reality. I have already illustrated why being in a location and living there is far more important than school book ideals.
Nah kis main himmat hai kay hamla karay. Yahan uski to aisi ki taisi. lol
Yay dil ki mohabbat hai Jaanu PSquared. Apnay mulk say, apni qaum say apnay musalmanon say aap kia samjho ki watan ki mohabbat aur apnay logon ki mohabbat ko. Aap to goron kay rung main rungi LIBERAL but very religious person ho jo goron ki jhooti khubron pay yaqeen karti ho.
Aap buchchi ho is liaay zara samajh naheen sakti.
Meray buchchay Insha Allah aap say hazaaaaaarooooon darjay bahtar hon gain. Aisi ahmaqana baat naheen karain gay.
Agar ho gaay aap ki tarha to jootay khain gay aur sudhar jain gay you know "maar kay agay bhoot bhagay" Hum to BF ka bhi bhoot us ko jootay maar kar bhaga dain gay kabhi bana kar to daikhay lol.
LOL LOL LOL
Sari buchkana batain kar rahi ho munni abhi tumharay bf bananay aur larkon say saath aik chhut kay neechay reh kar unko parakhnay kay din hain jao meri munni.
Kioon kia America ko aap kay abba ji nain khareed li hai jo hum naheen reh saktay aur aap reh sakti hain aur pakistani honay ka dawa bhi kar sakteen hain wah ray Pisso tera kia banay ga LOL.
Hum pay hukum lago karnay wali aap kon hoti hain mohtarma. Hum apnay marzi kay malik hain. Akhir paisay bharay hain goron kay halaq main fees kay naam pay to rehnay ka adheekar to goray ka baap bhi naheen cheen sakta aap kon ho chai piddi ka shorba.
Apni nationality aap ko thama kay chalay jain. Munni khuwaab say jago subah ho gai. lol
Aray aisay hi thori Unki madad karain gay na maali bhi aur jazbati bhi Insha Allah. Akhir muhibb e watan hain hum koi daish drohi thora hi hain.
LOL hamaray jaisay logon ki wajah say LIBRAL laikin very religious musalmanon ko bari takleef ponhachti hai sirf baton say hi. lol
I enjoyed reading your post and repsonding lol
Jo apne mulk ke baare mein DOOOOOR baithke ye sab kehta hai...uski baatein sunni nahin jasakti hein. These are not political views, they are kisi ki parhai huwi patti, nothing more.
Like I said before and Ill say it again...its hypocritical of you to sit here and say you're a Proud Pakistani and blah blah blah. Goron ke liye kaam karte hein aur Pakistan Pakistan cheekhte hein. What the hell is this? Where is your Pakistani-pana when you're getting and paying taxes in the US??? Where is your Pakistani Pride when you're buying a house and a car here on interest? What world are you living in? Tell me what village you came from so I can go and see more of your type. Maybe we can put you in a zoo and call you another species of Pakistanis.
Forget ABCDs people, Ive discovered a new breed: they VOLUNTARILY LEAVE Pakistan, they come to US, Canada, UK, etc, then they crap as much as possible on white people calling them all sorts of names and whatnot, go to Pakistan in the summers with their kids and run back to US like they never lived there before and still claim to love Pakistan and hate India. These are the people you see at the airport smelling like masala with a US passport that act like they've never been to Pakistan, you can smell their arrogance. And for what? They encourage violence against India BUT WILL NOT FIGHT THEMSELVES. They will put up OTHER famililes like the people living in Pakistan are cattle, unimportant and can be sacrificed without a problem. IMO, these people are cowards (Heera, that means BUZDIL).
Goron ke rang mein rangne KHUD aate hein lekin doosron par keechar uchalte hein. Goron ke baghal mein rehne ke liye zindagi bhar ki kamai dao pe lagadete hein, lekin hein Pakistani. Kahan gayi apne mulk ki muhabbat jab vahan se nikalne ke liye feesen bharra hai the? Hm? Goron ke liye marjate hein kaam karte karte, lekin "Pakistani" hein. Goron ke samne moon nahin khol sakte, lekin Pakistani hein. Humse kehte hein ke INKE bache humse behtar honge...LEKIN APNE BACHON KO VAHEEN PALENGE JAHAN HUM PAYDA HUWE. Ye humse laak darje behtar kaise huwe? Jab ye apne aap se sach nahin bolsakte? Dont lie to others about who you are and most importantly dont lie to yourself. You're no longer a Pakistani, you're a deserter.
Do whatever you want but do it with integrity.
You buchchi dhoka khaing. lol
I'm not wise but old for sure.
At least this thread helped you realize that.
Sari buchkana batain kar rahi ho munni abhi tumharay bf bananay aur larkon say saath aik chhut kay neechay reh kar unko parakhnay kay din hain jao meri munni.
I enjoyed reading your post and repsonding lol
Apki tarbiyat mein jo kami thi, vo yahan zahir karna zaroori hai kya? Aap American BF ya GF bananey aye hein? Yahi khwab dekh ke aye hein aap? Ke yahan pe saaaaaaaaaare log sirf sara din BF aur GF ke saat ghoomte rehte hein, right?
Apko jahaz se utre huwe kitne ghante huwe hein?
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Perhaps you haven't spent a lot of time with Americans, or have never been to the "South", but there are many Americans who feel that the country should disintegrate and insult the founding fathers. Many hard-core evangelicals feel that the founders were not religious enough, and did not do enough to protect Christianity in the Constitution. There is an active secessionist movement in South Carolina. There is also an active secessionist group with a large membership in Alaska (Palin's husband was reputedly a member).
Firstly Pakistan has secessionist groups. You should see Pakistani groups from Sindh demand the Pakistani Mission in New York get them consultative status as an NGO with the UN and then insult Pakistan as soon as they are in. You see US NGOs doing that?
Also you refer to those who want the old south back and can't believe they lost the civil war. I am not referring to the half crazies and the complete crazies in the bush in the US. I am refering to the average american.
Do this read through this very thread and look how many average Pakistanis take an arrogant and insulting attitude towards Pakistan. Hell look at the Pakistan Affairs forum. More importantly this very thread has examples where people think those who live abroad are the only source to solve Pakistan's problems.
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The common man eventually defines government policy in a democracy, but it takes time, more than we would like. Unfortunately once troops are 'on the ground' the reality changes and it becomes difficult to simply extract them once public opinion changes.
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Yeah that happened in the US for the past 8 years. Or that happened in Pakistan as well right. There is no concept of buying votes in our country. Government constantly defies public opinion for the sake of political interest.
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I would argue that Pakistanis and Indians living "back home" are far less informed about the realities than those living abroad. We are exposed to many more news sources and often learn the 'other side of the story' only after moving abroad. My husband never heard of the atrocities committed in Bangladesh by the Pakistani army until moving to the US and making Bangladeshi friends. You will never obtain a realistic picture of a conflict while living in the conflict zone.
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Okay. Lets put this to the test. Lets put my own the ground knowledge regarding Swizterland or Darfur compared to your sources from the media. Lets see who has a more informed and realistic picture of the on the ground realities. And I frankly love the veiled referenece that Pakistanis in Pakistan can't access these sources either. We have a far better media network than most countries on our region. Dawn AAJ have shows that rival western programmes. Take some time out and learn about your "homeland".
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I lived in Pakistan for a time and found most of our relatives to have an unrealistic and irrational view of India and Indians. When my in-laws later visited us in the UK, my mother-in-law threw away some of our dishes after a Hindu family visited. She is an educated woman. The fact is that emotions are too high among those living in Pakistan and perhaps India as well for you to work towards an amicable peace.>
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Nationalism and pride for ones nation is not an issue of logic. If it is, you aren't feeling the pangs of patriotism. Secondly they were unrealistic and irrational compared to your views which you recieved in a comfortable environment secluded from the realities.
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^ What does nationalism have to do with throwing away dishes after someone eats in them? How stupid is that? You cant be serious when you say thats an act of PRIDE!
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That I believe is issue of religion which I am not well versed on. So we will still having that discussion on the chances of Peace between Pakistan and India or did you fall for my charm? ;)
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Oh that was charm? Im sorry, silly me! Here you are trying so hard and I dont even notice!
How is it an issue of religion? Their Hindus having dinner at your house...