Promiscuity

[redvelvet]

DD---in having a relationship.

and REDVELVET learn to have some tolerance of mens issues instead of selfishly efforting to end it. Your not the Boss. If you want to dominate go elsewhere. OR b prpared for a return bashing yes.

Thread starter would like more HONEST comments from girls on amans past lifes importance. THanx

"more HONEST".........so you think that any girl who gives you an opinion that you don't agree with......that she's not being "HONEST"????

To my knowledege there is no limit to the number of posts one can contribute in a thread. And besides......I took the time out to analyze your issue from different angles........hence the multiple posts.......which you take as "dominating". I never said I was the boss..........however if you perceive me as the "boss"..........that's your insecurity.

"Efforting"????? I'm not "efforting" on ending men's issues, lol. Look, Deela/Chap/Threadstarter.............it's not just me okay. Other women who have responded to your thread have shared similar views...........so don't give me all the credit in being the "bad guy" here and not being able to come up with an explanation that would justify your desires.

Why are there so many men who get away with zina? Okay.....then if that's the issue that one is so consumed by.........then commit zina. Why are there so many people who steal/commit fraud and get away with it? Okay.......then go ahead and do the same.

Why worry about how some girl is going to view a guy's past full of zina? The girl is not the one whom you'd ask forgivness from in the first place. What else would one ask approval of next?

I don't claim to be an Islamic scholar. My advice was straightforward and simple. For a person who is internally frustrated........they will blind to even simple advice and will search for loopholes.

Why are you going to bother addressing my religious narrations..........when YOUR OWN QUESTION is sooooooooooooooo FLAWED in many ways that you refuse to reconize it after so many women on this thread have pointed them out.

1) You are comtemplating whether or not you should screw around based on what OTHER women think. Why not base it on what YOU think?

2) You're indirectly trying to gain women's justification of your desires because you're so frustrated seeing other guys losing their virgnity without little consequence. Well.............people break the rules all the time and get away with it.................but that doesn't mean that rules and boundaries should be eliminated all together. If that were the case...........civilization would not survive......there would chaos. See..........are you happy now? I've eliminated GOD from the equation. But even common sense would tell you that moral rules and boundaries are needed regardless of how many people break them.

The sad thing is that you're sucking up to the women on Gupshup by calling them "gentle" and "generous".............but when they take the time out to analyze your issue from various angles and come up with ideas that GO AGAINST your lower nafs............you start accusing them of being the "boss" "domineering" and doing "gundagardi".

You create a thread on a public forum........then be open to various responses. And the type of responses you recieve will to some extent mirror the quality and content of the threadstarter's question.

[Orpheus]

@PyariCgudia

Tell him to keep it in his pants, or offer to cut it off for him, alleviating his need to ruin people’s lives.

[redvelvet]

@marwah

first of all, why do you keep referring to yourself as the “thread starter”? we know it’s you.

secondly, you keep saying that you “just want to know” xyz, everyone here told you a billion times already, what more are you looking for?

thirdly, i’m beginning to think YOU’RE the “chap”. people here have given you very detailed “HONEST” answers as to how they feel about this issue and yet you ask the same question over and over and over again. this is really important to you, isn’t it? i wonder why.

Now…Deela…Marwah also wonders if you and chap are the same person. As I’m sure others have already had doubts as well (seriously who are you trying to kid…or fool here?). But even if SEVERAL women say that you might be the “chap” in question…you will still give ALL the credit to me for making you look bad. People are not stupid…they can put two and two together…so it’s hardly fair to give all the credit to only one person for being observant. Changing names to ask the same questions and repeat the same mistakes is not going to give you any new answers…and in the process…you’re only “revealing” yourself more.

And I agree with everything that Marwah has said. What more are you looking for? I think that you just want an answer that fits your needs as opposed to something that others feel is honest.

And let’s take a look at your more recent but oft-repeated question: Since to the big contrast to men, so many pakistani, virgin girls give themself/go out with men who disclose he is not a virgin/made past mistakes, so is the indication this lends correct, that women do not mind a mans past much as long as he is nice and sincere now.

Okay…so let’s assume that ALL the women tell you that a guy’s promiscuous past is no big deal for them. So what would you do with that information? How would such an answer affect you? How would such an answer impact your life. If MAJORITY of the women here say that a guy’s past won’t bother them…would you take that as the golden permission to commit zina??? It that’s the case…then one would naturally urge others to keep “God” out of the equation…because the very root of the intention/neeyat in seeking an answer to such a twisted question is not a good or clean one.

[sweefs]

@Milly

I am suprised so called chap hasnt discovered his hands.

LOOOLL.

oh wow.

[Deela]

LOl at REDVelvet. To me you still are biased and also are more frustrated than anyone else here . You accuse my thread 'twisted'; Well be fair and Look at the other 'awkward' and 'trivial' and 'twisted' topics being discussed on life1. You dont seem to go on rebeliion fueled rampage there do you- oh yeah because most of those topics are of your fellow girls.

You fail to understand life1 is here for people to discuss thier problems, insecurities and frustrations. Everybody has unique issues; and no-ones should be looked down on. Your stance is aggresive to my topic because maybe you are not a man and can never understand the issues that that surround 'us'.

This thread seems awkward, but atleast its the truth, and its better for Some of us Men to be honest about ourself instead of doing things now or later on that will hurt others. Maybe 'I' or 'chap' am still not serious about lossing my 'virginity' but just trying to gather some knowledge on the topic.

Although, I can classify and reply to each of your rants, unlike you i have other more important things to do, so pls forgive. Nevetheless, a person making thread is supposed to be 'confused'. But a person giving 'advice' is expected to be sure what they are talking about, and most of your' 'islamic' stances are actually cointradictory to what the truth is.
Clearly, you are a women and do not quite understand the male make-up.
Shaming or being aggresive towards men will not supress thier make-up, and often you see when people do this the accusant starts doing thing behind backs.

AND- If you had read my posts properly, which you obviosuly couldnt. Is that 'I' was not referring to only 'ZINA', 'I' made clear of the many 'legal' considerations of furfilling the 'ahem, ahem' in perspective.
And 'I' made clear that the 'My' intention to preserve virginity was more for the sake of an equally entitled future virgin girl I desire. And notthing is wrong in thinking.

So before REDVELVET goes bonkers get your COMPREHENSION right.
However, Thanx for your wider angled views. You have said more than enough, and I think you now need rest from this thread.

Moving on:

I would appreciate other guppans to speak thier minds freely on my this topic, your honest and full thoughts/beliefs which would be very valuable to hear-
(Also note losing virginity does not entail having committing Zina).

P-squared, Deeba, Milly, Mehnaz.....c'mon no jokes.....I just want to seriously know if a man feels he has those instinctual polygamous tendencies is it better to perform them before or after marriage.

and the original question is:

Since to the big contrast to men, so many pakistani, virgin girls give themself/go out with men who disclose he is not a virgin/made past mistakes, so is the indication this lends correct, that women do not mind a mans past much as long as he is nice and sincere now.

I know it slightly off-key, but c'mon I need to know it.. Thanx

[redvelvet]

Since you mentioned that there were other more halal ways of doing ahem....ahem. So why can't you just come out and say the word? The *ahem....ahem** word is SEX. When one is going to ask a question that is fairly taboo on a conservative forum........then one should also be bold enough to say the word. Ab sharam kyoon aa rahi hai?

Anyhow........if you DO KNOW.....of HALAL/LEGAL ways to do ***ahem...ahem.....then why are you bothering to seek approval for something you already know can be acheived through legal means? Whatever means you pereive as LEGAL (temoprary marriage/mutaa, etc or mutiple marriages or slave girl).......go and fulfill your desires instead of asking the question over and over again. GO.....follow the Nike Slogan.*

**********I do understand GENIUS that Life 1 is for discussing problems. Advice is given when there is a problem or question. And....I have found some threads posted by FEMALES to be a little strange. I don't support a person just because they share my gender. I look at the content of the post. Blaming me for "only siding with the girls" is yet another weak and whiny argument. If a female poster was to go around asking the same question under different names over and over again refusing to understand the answers and criticizing the responders for being "bosses" "ghundas" "ring leaders" "domineering"............even that female threadposter would recieve crticism from members. A post seems "angry" when it doesn't mirror your own desires.

[redvelvet]

Re: Promiscuity

Psquared.......Mehnaz.......Deeba......Mistral......Halwa....Nadz...Sadzzz...

Do tell us......it is better for chap to l*egally* do ahem...ahem" (hump multiple women) **BEFORE* he ties the knot with the future luckly lady........OR........AFTER marriage?

I say he should do it **AFTER **marriage..........that way maybe wife might be convinced for a threesome.

[princessjojo]

Since to the big contrast to men, so many pakistani, virgin girls give themself/go out with men who disclose he is not a virgin/made past mistakes, so is the indication this lends correct, that women do not mind a mans past much as long as he is nice and sincere now.

Ok here's a straight answer to the question: I do mind a man's past regardless of how nice and sincere he is now.

[nadz123]

@redvelvet

Psquared.......Mehnaz.......Deeba......Mistral......Halwa....Nadz...Sadzzz...

Do tell us......it is better for chap to l*egally* do ahem...ahem" (hump multiple women) **BEFORE* he ties the knot with the future luckly lady........OR........AFTER marriage?

I say he should do it **AFTER **marriage..........that way maybe wife might be convinced for a threesome.

as long as its ok for women to ahem ahem hump multiple men, before, after, in between, during, tieing the knot......and im assuming this knot they are tying is around the mans ahem ahem...

[redvelvet]

@nadz123

as long as its ok for women to ahem ahem hump multiple men, before, after, in between, during, tieing the knot…and im assuming this knot they are tying is around the mans ahem ahem…

[InToXiCaTeD]

Re: Promiscuity

chhi chhi chi … gandi larkiyan

[zena_uk]

Re: Promiscuity

This guy sounds like the type of guy who will never ever be satisfied, even if he married 50 miss worlds.
His best option is to save all his money and make sure he can afford to be a 'proper' polygamist (not keeping 4 wives in social housing and claiming benefits). He can approach the masjid and ask to be put in touch with women who want polygamous marriage (there are many around- they can’t be asked to deal with man drama alone).
Then he can hook up with some of the other polygamous guy and trade the wives they get bored of. Disaster obverted.

[redvelvet]

Re: Promiscuity

^ See.......chap has received the opinion of many females (myself, Nadz, Psquared, Marwah, Zena, Dildirani).........but he still persists in seeking out HONEST female opinions. He thinks we're lying about our responses. This is because he hasn't heard the answer of his dreams yet. See, he already knows the answer. He just wants us women to give him the** "GO SIGNAL"** and tell him that he has our blessing in either having multiple sex partners BEFORE marriage or AFTER marriage.

[zena_uk]

Re: Promiscuity

What I find rather amusing is that this guy thinks there are women out there willing to be 'test run' by him, that he will even have the opportunity to be promiscuous. He doesn’t even know if he is any good at satisfying a women sexually hahaha.

[chanda_kh]

Re: Promiscuity

i would be completely surprised if this "chap" hasnt already done the deed or rather deeds....the mother of all deeds..every deed in the "How to" deed book...etc etc....so on and so forth..he is just here to play dumb and provoke the ladies..go figure.. :)
dude its all in your head, even the ultimate psychotherapist Dr. Freud couldnt figure himself out, you sir are nothing but a mere fish in a ginormous sea...go find your way on your own.

[McPendo]

@zena_uk

** ‘proper’ polygamist **

Got to get this printed on a shirt!

[zena_uk]

@McPendo

Got to get this printed on a shirt!

lol you know what I mean though, too many guys with secret gori wives living in council houses while there import wife lives with their mom, no-one knowing about the other. Asians in the UK just don’t do polygamy properly, they are giving it a bad name!

[_WiCcA_PrInCeSs]

Here is a question i have for your chap:

Should a clean **women, **intending to marry, who however is irresistebly attracted to multiple men, indulge in her desired promiscious needs before marriage and ‘hopefully’ get it out her system, or practice them after marriage?

The **women **fears if she does not 'explore’ himself beforehand she may end up compelled so afterwards.

Lets just us say that this women is his future wife.

So What should this girl do?

[redvelvet]

@zena_uk

lol you know what I mean though, too many guys with secret gori wives living in council houses while there import wife lives with their mom, no-one knowing about the other. Asians in the UK just don't do polygamy properly, they are giving it a bad name!

I've heard the word "chap" being used more commonly by the British......although I'm sure that it is has been used in American literature as well.

I wonder if the "chap" is from the UK?

[Mabrook]

Re: Promiscuity

chap should read lots of Taooz(Ayoozu billah....) n Istaghfaar if he's muslim. may b gtting married after all won't b bad idea. thats wat marriage is for to help u not going astray.