Re: Polygamy as a Solution to Earthquake Victims
But its in the Quran. Do Quranic verses come with expiree dates? Or is there a verse that allows you to annul verses that are no longer "applicable"? And then if so, who decides what is or is not applicable today?
Well, that's not the point of the thread. But some side questions to consider.
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pcg, interest isnt allowed in islam either. so should we stuff our cash in our pillows... and ride horses into battles like taliban did against B52 bombers?
i hope u agree the answer is no. we muslims will have to accept the reality islamic laws are outdated.
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yes really. and not something that can be cured with besan and pakoray either. :)
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great another new age islamist.......
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Gist of the message was to provide social security, justice, equality and a balanced society. Then, it was acceptable for men to take as many women as their wives/slaves/concubines and yet no entertain any responsibility or social obligation. To transform that society, changes had to be made which related to the times then. Basic gist of the message remains true today also, provide justice, social security, equality and balanced soceity.
Charity as understood today does not explain what the Quran is saying. God’s message does not make others (takers) lesser than those who provide assistance (givers). Unfortunately, charity as explained today assumes someone doing something for others for a worthy cause. In ISlam, it is our duty to provide help to others especially the widowed and orphans ie the under-privelaged and socially weak segment of the population.
How does that apply to our situation in Kashmir and Northern areas? We have number of options available:
There are numerous ways of activating civil society, Iam sure u must have done much pf this already. But, marriage is not something which is on top of the agenda for the victims or those who are providing assistance. First things first.
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^^ it was inspired by my grandfather experience…he was very sad after my grandmom passed away, but a year later on he met a widowed lady living in his village, and since then they have formed a very cute couple!
sure only time heals but it is better to think about the future and not stay glued in one’s sorrow…
i mean my dad got married again one year after my mom died, cause he wanted to have a mom for me and my sis…and also a sad dad is no good exmple for children…so he overcame quickly his sorrow…though i know it is still in his heart even 15 years later…/QUOTE
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That is what I am trying to convince gharwali. Wo samzhati nahi. For me m’utaa would be ok too.
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Abbay yeh kiya bak bak hai?
Sahee urdu bool! 
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Blitz, you don't know what mu'ataa is?
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From what I know, beauty should not be factored into the equation at all. There is a hadith on this also that says piety should really be the only factor - wealth and beauty, etc should not be part of the equation. Attraction is important, but it does not always come from beauty, otherwise beautiful people would have the best marriages. Obviously, celebrity marriages suck.
Secondly, the Quranic ayah that talks about polygamy, is juxtapositioned next to ayahs on taking care of orphans. There are some translations, which suggest that polygamy, for this reason, is highly encouraged for people who are in need. Various Islamic apologists have suggested this, because to suggest otherwise is saying that polygamy is only for satisfying sexual lust. This can’t be possible since the Quran asks you not to be lustful, or at least to control your lust. And lust is definitely not something you should use when deciding on a spouse. Even common sense tells you that’s a wrong approach.
I’m not sure of this Ansar story you’re telling me. I know of the incident where the Prophet encouraged a man to at least see a woman before marrying her. But nowhere does Ansars with weird eyes come into factor there. By the way, didn’t the Prophet marry an Ansar woman? How come the weird eyes didn’t play into factor there. And I doubt that avoiding marraige with people with weird eyes qualifies as Islamic…
I’m not sure about this whole concubine issue, because some scholars say the Prophet did have concubines, and some say he never had even one and always married the woman he decided to sleep with, slave or no slave, since they usually converted to Islam anyway. I’ve raised the question of concubines here before, and guppies with reasonable knowledge of Islam have said that this whole concubine deal is nonsense, but I’m sure God knows better than that. As for allowing unlimited concubines - that is simply ridiculous, and whoever is interpreting Islamic verses to mean that has some serious issues. Read the Quranic ayahs and it talks about having intercourse with concubines in a marriage sense. Its pretty pathetic that people think its Islamic to sleep with unlimited women. 
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:omg:, i dont understand where is this hole from which they keep coming out.
answer to solution is
Polygamy is only req’d/used when the number of men in a given society are less than Women.
side note: Excellent post fartguru 30
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You mean they should marry because they need someone to support them right? What about teaching those females, if they are able to at least, something so they can take care of themselves, some sort of trade so they can take care of themselves and can waite with the marriage until their lifes are back on track.
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itsme, so what to do if there are more men than females? should a woman be allowed to have multiple male partners?
sadya, unfortunately most of the families impacted by the earthquake are hesitant to go back to their homes. i dont blame them. they are settling in different parts of pak and restarting their lives. what will help more than the govt is people in rest of pak opening up to help them. 50 yrs after the existance of our beloved land i think we should all realize counting on GOP to do anything is a waste of time.
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Why is there no support for mut'aa in this thread?
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and there are more men in pak than women that’s why no need for polygamy over there:D
Pakistan’s population is 47.5% female and 52.5% male
source:http://www.fao.org/sd/WPdirect/WPre0111.htm
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overall, there are more women than men. The percentage is only messed up in 'tupid nations such as Pakistan and esp. India (where Pagan tradition of killing daughters still exist)
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Here is an article on Polygamy:
http://www.answering-christianity.com/polygamy.htm
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Polygamy and Prophet (PBUH)**
http://www.answering-christianity.com/islam_polygamy.htm
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Well isnt it true that although you can marry 4 wives and you are supposed to be just to all 4, even if you have one you can still never be just?
I heard somewhere and I cant remember for the life of me that polygamy isnt really encouraged because a man cant be just to even 1 wife let alone 4.
BTW I agree with fatguru, I think monetary support or support in the form of education, medical help and so on would be more beneficial. I highly doubt the first thought that came to mind was marriage when the earthquake hit.
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desperate victims resorting to marrying into survival......the whole thing reeks of prostitution (in multiple ways).
