Re: Polygamy as a Solution to Earthquake Victims
PCG - maybe because you are not in a committed relationship yet :D I think you would think differently if you were engaged/married. It is very easy to say "yes" to hypotheticals.
Re: Polygamy as a Solution to Earthquake Victims
PCG - maybe because you are not in a committed relationship yet :D I think you would think differently if you were engaged/married. It is very easy to say "yes" to hypotheticals.
Re: Polygamy as a Solution to Earthquake Victims
ahem ms. rukhsarbibi, apparently you missed the latest news flash. And I wonder though...when we theoretically argue about the virtues of polygamy in religion (not you, necessarily rukhsar aunty)...I was just wondering how easy it would be to apply the practice in real life in a real disaster situation...which polygamy was meant for religiously in the first place...
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Yeah totally agree! ![]()
Plus who is the friggin’ first wife to complain if the man wants another ?
Huh ? :o
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NO. I will share money, time, watever it takes but not my hubby!
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:k: @ polygamy
the polyandrous type ofcourse…![]()
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Sharam nahin aati!
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Anti-Islamic.. ![]()
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Who care what you think if your hubby is into it? ![]()
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He isnt, cuz he can have whoever he wants as long as I get a divorce (Allah na kare)
Re: Polygamy as a Solution to Earthquake Victims
What about encouraging Mut'a marriage? That would help, no?
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PCG,
Your intentions maybe good, but your knowledge on the subject matter is zero. You have no idea as to what has happened with these poor ppl cause here u r opening up a shaadi online.com.
Victims of the earthquake who were lucky to survive have suffered serious injuries, most of them related to the spine ie permanent disability. There are women and men lying in hospital beds of Pakistan and UAE who will never walk again, some may not be able to even sit or move their necks.
There is this recently married girl from Balakot, she suffered spinal injury which has left her paralysed. Her husband was lucky not to suffer any injuries, but that poor girl was not so lucky. She suffered two pains, one from mother nature and the other from her admirable husband who has dumped her because she is now a LIABILITY.
How many such cases are there is difficult to estimate, but this is just one example that I have personally met. Another case involves a poor girl hardly in her twenties looked more like in her teens. She was the fourth wife of a 55 year old man older than her father. Do u know what she told my wife? This is verbatim: 'I'am worried for my husband, who will take care of him, I'l go back and find another wife who will take care both of us'. This girl suffers from spinal injuries which have left her paralysed for the rest of her life.
Do u have any idea what these poor souls have to endure? There are ppl lying in hospitals who have family that do not wish to know the whereabouts of their immediate one's. Having lost their limbs or worse their backs, many of them are left as liabilities for a terrain which is inhospitable to healthy people, what to say it wud do to those poor *******s who are relegated toa wheelchair.
Has anyone of you ever been to Azad Kashmir? Do u hv any idea what the terrain is like? What the ppl are like? How these ppl will cope once the world moves on to another tragedy? Just for a second, put yourself in a position where u are totally dependent upon a wheelchair/crutches in a mountain region with no facilities for the disabled nor a culture/tradition/knowhow of dealing with members of society who have nowhere else to turn. U cannot even start imagining their despair lil sister, these ppl have suffered unspeakabke pain, saddest part is they are the unfortunate one's who were left alive to relive that pain every day of their remaining life.
Now ask yourself the same question, will you (PCG) marry a man who has suffered spinal injuries, cannot move w/o help, has to carry a urine bag rest of his life, needs someone to change, bathe and eat for the rest of his life?
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This is called positive thinking. Thanks for a good idea.
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^ Perhaps wishful thinking...fartguru has a point...i also think the last thing these victims will have on their minds is marriage.
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^^ it was inspired by my grandfather experience...he was very sad after my grandmom passed away, but a year later on he met a widowed lady living in his village, and since then they have formed a very cute couple!
sure only time heals but it is better to think about the future and not stay glued in one's sorrow...
i mean my dad got married again one year after my mom died, cause he wanted to have a mom for me and my sis...and also a sad dad is no good exmple for children...so he overcame quickly his sorrow...though i know it is still in his heart even 15 years later...
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Fartguru, very good points. But I thought the purpose of polygamy is a form of charity. Isn't it? Or isit just reserved for those people who want another woman on the side for lustful reasons?
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PCG
You’r a smart person, u know very well polygamy as practiced in today’s society has nothing to do with charity. More importantly, polygamy had nothing to do with charity as understood in today’s terminology. Soceity back then had men dying in battles, tribal alliances being forged thu marriages and very little if no fundamental rights offered to womenfolk.
People of Kashmir need our support, moral and financial. Right now there biggest worry is the winter and their poor tortured souls who have suffered unspeakable pain.
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polygamy is a form of charity... nice.
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Fartguru, polygamy IS a form of charity. Because you're not supposed to marry for lust, and furthermore, read the polygamy verse and the Quran and the surrounding verses. The verse is surrounded by verses on charity, and I even once read a translation that suggested the Quran is suggesting to take orphans in as second, third, or fourth wives.
Yes, the society didn't offer fundamental rights to women at time. But the Quran had tried to change that, right?
Even the Prophet's wives were not the sexiest most desirable women of his time. They were mostly widows. One was a slave - Maria the Copt, who he freed.
So now, how is today's time any different. I understand that its hard to commit to spend your life with someone who is disabled, but I'm seeing LOTS AND LOTS of women in these women and children centers who were physically saved, and are OK...except they've lost family, and now they're on their own. What about them?
And by being a muslim, shouldn't we be the ones who are least repulsed with the idea of taking on someone who is disabled as our spouse? Do they deserve to not be cared for because they are disabled? I'm sure that's not what you meant, but I think that's my point exactly with this thread.
When the time comes to do things right, we still don't do things right.
Re: Polygamy as a Solution to Earthquake Victims
why do u need to marry a woman to take care of her? in modern day and age this can be done quite easily by financial help. my dad provides for two households back home that i am aware. they make monthly withdrawls and shortly will be providing for one of their daughters weddings. some of the examples we look at for guidance in islam are unfortunately outdated.
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^ True. Then why does Allah allow polygamy?
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well thats the real question isnt it. something that was allowed 1400 yrs ago... if it isnt applicable today should be discarded imprompto. but that cant happen till mullahs hijacked version of islam isnt fed without important updates.