Physical Relationship before marriage

[Orpheus]

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Why do you lot even post such questions, are you SO interested in what the next person is doing.

[bbung4]

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Orpheus,

I think you should stop trying to decide what others do. After all "are you so interested in what others do?"

Its a discussion forum...open discussion.

Peaple who "think" care about what others do, yes.

Sometimes, its also called compassion for others benefit..which seems to go against many "asian" religions of ANYTHING right as long as **my **lot do it.

[Orpheus]

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@bbung4

Orpheus,

I think you should stop trying to decide what others do. After all "are you so interested in what others do?"

Can you not read, and to answer your question, heck no!!!

[K4plan]

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@bbung4

Orpheus,

I think you should stop trying to decide what others do. After all “are you so interested in what others do?”

Its a discussion forum…open discussion.

Peaple who “think” care about what others do, yes.

Sometimes, its also called compassion for others benefit..which seems to go against many “asian” religions of ANYTHING right as long as **my **lot do it.

Yup.

[InformedConsent]

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@quas

I know this is haraam but how many muslims really get in a physical relationship before nikaah? I especially want to know do muslims in western countries practice what goras/goris too? Most of the westerners typically are in 7-10 sustained physical relationships before settling down- some never settle all their life. They keep changing partners or even have a long-term partner. Sanctity of marriage holds less relevance as it pre-60s in the west. This is a lame discussion cuz most of the Pakistanis dont "date" per se- they either marry or divorce(in rare cases). I have hardly met Pakistanis/muslims who had a physical relationship before marriage unless they had it under the cover or are shy to admit it. But back home, dating is not prevalent- boys and girls sleeping together with many partners before marriage is also not found. Its only the west. I am not sure about other muslims countries. A lot of young desi men feel left out when it comes to dating in the west cuz they think when others are enjoying the party they are sitting in the corner showing a nicer face when they have options.

Could you imagine here in UK state ROMAN CATHOLIC schools (half of the schools in UK are RC) are preaching to these white teenagers STAY AWAY FROM HAVING SEX UNTIL GET MARRY. They have ORATORY in these schools and and a Priest from the local church is visiting the schools. I WISH I COULD PASTE THEIR "SEX AND RELATIONSHIP PROGRAMME FOR SECONDARY PUPILS".
I am aware in non-denominational schools sex and relationship education programme is different from the one in RC.
Anyhow RC schools are trying to uphold the teachings of BIBLE, but white teenagres are still getting pregnant while in these schools, I just found 1 girl among 1000 pupils in that school.

These White teachers were appreciating our muslim cluture, that you muslims dont have Porn and Paedophiles, and you stay away from sex till marriage, you have respect and love for parents means you have family system. In comparison of this morality with a muslim they called theirselves animals.
How do you feel about that concept of modernization........ westernization? if adultry is sin in ISlam its still sin in west and the BIble.......thats what they are preaching in half of the schools in TODAY's UK because many of students are from single parent or sometimes dont possess even any parent.

[InformedConsent]

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I am aware sex education in catholic shools are quite controversial matter here in UK. I have mentioned its essence in above post.

[Cool_Breeze]

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@InformedConsent

Could you imagine here in UK state ROMAN CATHOLIC schools (half of the schools in UK are RC) are preaching to these white teenagers STAY AWAY FROM HAVING SEX UNTIL GET MARRY. They have ORATORY in these schools and and a Priest from the local church is visiting the schools. I WISH I COULD PASTE THEIR "SEX AND RELATIONSHIP PROGRAMME FOR SECONDARY PUPILS". I am aware in non-denominational schools sex and relationship education programme is different from the one in RC. Anyhow RC schools are trying to uphold the teachings of BIBLE, but white teenagres are still getting pregnant while in these schools, I just found 1 girl among 1000 pupils in that school. These White teachers were appreciating our muslim cluture, that you muslims dont have Porn and Paedophiles, and you stay away from sex till marriage, you have respect and love for parents means you have family system. In comparison of this morality with a muslim they called theirselves animals. How do you feel about that concept of modernization........ westernization? if adultry is sin in ISlam its still sin in west and the BIble.......thats what they are preaching in half of the schools in TODAY's UK because many of students are from single parent or sometimes dont possess even any parent.

exactly.
also i know that there are number of christians (inlcuding whites) in US who date but don't get physical I know its very rare but atleast there are few who follow their Bible teachings.

Its hard to keep people away from it if there is no control on media. I mean even in England where some schools are trying to teach Bible lessons, students go home and see everythig open on tv, movies etc. so how come one expects them to be all shareef and nice.

[InformedConsent]

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@Cool Breeze

exactly. also i know that there are number of christians (inlcuding whites) in US who date but don't get physical I know its very rare but atleast there are few who follow their Bible teachings.

Its hard to keep people away from it if there is no control on media. I mean even in England where some schools are trying to teach Bible lessons, students go home and see everythig open on tv, movies etc. so how come one expects them to be all shareef and nice.

Correct
Cool breeze some these female teachers told me that they had sex first time on their wedding, I was just amazed. And Head Teacher said to ME " I dont believe in girl friend stuff its just destruction". He is married with 3 sons. I know white teenagers even dont want to wait till 16 which is age of consent in uk.

[Cool_Breeze]

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^^ am happy atleast some people understand it.

[Sara516]

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@InformedConsent

I am aware sex education in catholic shools are quite controversial matter here in UK. I have mentioned its essence in above post.

Hmm that's odd, i went to Roman Catholic schools til college, and in HS, they had no problems explaining sex and biology and aids and stuff to us.

[Cool_Breeze]

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@Sara516

Hmm that's odd, i went to Roman Catholic schools til college, and in HS, they had no problems explaining sex and biology and aids and stuff to us.

I heard that some religious schools in US are somewhat conservative too.

[InformedConsent]

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@Sara516

Hmm that's odd, i went to Roman Catholic schools til college, and in HS, they had no problems explaining sex and biology and aids and stuff to us.

I tried to mention the other side of picture not in terms of explaining sex, aids and contraception bio stuff..................you know Govenment have problems regarding their preachings.......inthis regard.... especially as they modify all that stuff according to Bible.

[InformedConsent]

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yes they do explain and support....................recently Govt. issued a questionnaire regarding their sex lives, so RC schools modified it according to Bible in their schools as they were not willing to give it in its original form.

[S02]

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@SolarOceans

It’s amazing how back home is just this perfect paradise

If it really was, why would he leave? :halo:

Depends on how you define physical relationship. I don’t think that many actually have sex before marriage (tho some certainly do). Those that do have a relationship probably do some of the kissing/handholding/cuddling etc.

[Femme_Fatale]

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What I find highly amusing is that members with the most vile language, most perverted thoughts that reek of desperation, lewd remarks, who have preferred the west over their homelands to spend their lives in, who think its okay to hoot at women just for fun are the ones who come here speak of virtue, morals and ‘naik-ness’

[Orpheus]

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^ Exactly.

[Amani06]

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@Femme Fatale

What I find highly amusing is that members with the most vile language, most perverted thoughts that reek of desperation, lewd remarks, who have preferred the west over their homelands to spend their lives in, who think its okay to hoot at women just for fun are the ones who come here speak of virtue, morals and ‘naik-ness’

Well said!

[Cool_Breeze]

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@Femme Fatale

What I find highly amusing is that members with the most vile language, most perverted thoughts that reek of desperation, lewd remarks, who have preferred the west over their homelands to spend their lives in, who think its okay to hoot at women just for fun are the ones who come here speak of virtue, morals and ‘naik-ness’

Thats not only here.
A lot of people are double faced.

[InformedConsent]

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@Cool Breeze

Thats not only here. A lot of people are double faced.

Exactly

Might be they have triple faces :D

[Cool_Breeze]

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@InformedConsent

Exactly

Might be they have triple faces :D

yeah. everything is going 3D anyways :D