I know this is haraam but how many muslims really get in a physical relationship before nikaah? I especially want to know do muslims in western countries practice what goras/goris too? Most of the westerners typically are in 7-10 sustained physical relationships before settling down- some never settle all their life. They keep changing partners or even have a long-term partner. Sanctity of marriage holds less relevance as it pre-60s in the west.
This is a lame discussion cuz most of the Pakistanis dont “date” per se- they either marry or divorce(in rare cases). I have hardly met Pakistanis/muslims who had a physical relationship before marriage unless they had it under the cover or are shy to admit it. But back home, dating is not prevalent- boys and girls sleeping together with many partners before marriage is also not found. Its only the west. I am not sure about other muslims countries.
A lot of young desi men feel left out when it comes to dating in the west cuz they think when others are enjoying the party they are sitting in the corner showing a nicer face when they have options.
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You need to go back home and find out how much of dating is happening
forget dating man what bout wife swapping.
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It's amazing how back home is just this perfect paradise
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The last time I was there, dating was being referred to ‘Kachay Gosht ki Dawat’
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theres a lot of dating in pakistann
and i dont see y a perosn has to hv 7-10 relationships b4 getting married
gay.
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really:confused: …well i guess pakistan has changed a lot in past 6 years:o …
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wat does kachay gosht ke dawat meannn????
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Things are not as bad in Pakistan as are in west.
I lived in Pakistan for 23 years and it has been just 2 years that I am in UK.
but I see things in UK much worse then in Pakistan.
Problem in Pakistan is that such things are not considered as per norms so if any such things happen it gets every ones attention and then people start saying oooooooooo look how much Pakistan has changed.
Just as a rough guide out of 25 people in my batch only 4 had GF means
out of 100 = 16%
and I am sorry to tell u that in my 2 years in UK all people that I have met(Pakistani desi) I am yet to find a virgin male.
and no one is married as yet.and problem is not that I am meeting wrong people they all are highly educated and cultured but are westernized.
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^ Erm if you’re living in teh west, you’re gonna find westernized ppl..makes sense naaa :halo:
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lol:D
what I meant to say was that they dont care much abt islamic values
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Not caring about Islamic values isn’t the same as being westernized..
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no matter what u ppl say in pakistan girls are not that shamless that they will go hand in hand with a guy:halo: … like pakistani girls in west:halo: …
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^ well in pakistan u see grls making out with guys in parks under their dupattas
and in net cafee...
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i don,t know …were they caught? …do u have prove? …most of the time its just rumour and nothing more…sharam hiya hai na and thats what count cuz what they did or not u don,t have prove only god knows that but girl here do it openly:) …they go and tell ppl i have a boyfriend and he so handsome blah blah blah no shame what so ever:halo: …
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the dupatta thing my cuzn has seen while driving there
and i agree with u on the sharam thing to an extent
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Please get out of the house more often. Even most villagers are effed up.
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and u live in pak thats why u have so much knowledge about what kind of habit ppl have:rolleyes: ?ppl living in west just search for execuses :halo: …
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every country has their sets of pakistani men and women who date/have physical relationships. Saro I think your hanging with the wrong crew if every male u isnt a virgin...maybe change ur group and you will see that not all pakistanis are sexually active...please dont stereotype :)
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Oh, I have lived in Pakistan 
Do not worry for me, I don’t sit where I am at and dream of trapping an innocent being just so I can move abroad
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and yeah ..pakistan is not too far behind from the western world. Being sexaully active before marriage is something very commen in Pakistan..then again..it depends who/where your with ! Its all a matter of the location and the particular people you speak too