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That’s your opinion, the question might be important for some people. Present is just a moment, its the past that makes a person, and no one has seen the future.
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Are we being sarcastic here? I am little confused. Anyhoo, I just presented what I know. I don’t want to argue about it.
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:k:
This is the kind of khekhekhe type thing that people are probably going to receive if they actually start telling.
Admit their mistakes to who? How hard can it be to admit their mistakes to their Allah? Not hard. To a human being just as sinful? Its stupidity because its not their place to forgive, judge or even be admitted to.
This is what I mean…its as if people have started considering themselves God. You know…someone who has the right to question people.
AP uncle asked me to ask Jolie if she thinks that IK came clean about Sita White with Reham before marrying her?
Not my question. AP is asking 
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If I were to reveal everything I’ve been up to in the past, I would be looked at like something you’d scrape off the bottom of your shoe! Luckily, no one knows except me and the big guy upstairs, I’ve repented and won’t be going back to said lifestyle - although I know that all I have to do is flick a switch if I really wanted to, which is kind of scary.
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LOL, I think he did. He does not have to shout from mosque, but he and her previous wife said, they were ready to take in Tyrian, that should suffice. I also have not heard him denying the relationship.
And again… if the question is asked… it deserves an honest answer. No one is promoting lying. Islam says we must be honest… but the thing is.. when looking for a partner, why should their past sin matter? We’re talking abt normal ppl .. not rapists and murderers. Why must a generally good rishta/person have to confess their ‘badness’ in order to be deemed ‘good’?
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See, IK doesn’t deny his past at all. He says that his past is in front of everyone and so is his transformation and present life. He’s sensible and follows the basic teachings of Islam by not boasting about his colourful days, but at the same time he’s not stupid enough to deny anything or lie ‘in the name of Islam’.
AP is an idiot for thinking that IK owes any explanation to 180 million people, but I’d like to hope that he had come clear on some things with Reham before marrying her. Or maybe she knew everything already, just like AP.
Ok Jolie aur Icono tou serious hee ho gaye. 
aray i was joking
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You seem to come in circles. Well there may be people who may not be able to look past a persons past sins, they should be told, its best for both parties.
You seem to come in circles. Well there may be people who may not be able to look past a persons past sins, they should be told, its best for both parties.
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If it’s a dealbreaker for someone they would probably stress its importance when looking at a rishta. Ppl who don’t tick those points would not pursue the rishta then. Confession still isn’t necessary.
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To each their own…
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Ofcourse its not necessary, a person can just say, I would not like to answer this question, if asked.
In the past, every person was considered/expected to avoid major sins and no one asked such questions, but, a past relationship coming to light by default was considered deception. Now people are more open and would ask.
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I also find that most people who stress the past are not doing so well themselves on the moral scale.
So people who demand to know so much about your past usually have insecurities and telling them about your past only amplifies them. Secure people don’t give a damn…they know their value/worth. This is something I’ve seen happen 100% of the time - every single time. Jealous women/men have a need to dig into others’ pasts. Telling them anything - even something small - results in an avalanche of questions followed by lots of suspicious behavior and at the end distrust no matter what.
Having any kind of past = distrust for majority
Allah swt knows human nature a bit too well.
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Let’s get realistic for a second, no one goes around ‘confessing’ how many girls or boys they had slept with in front of strangers they’re meeting for the first or second time. I’m serious. Normal people don’t do that. But the question eventually and most naturally comes up in later discussion and at that time, I expect complete honesty. I don’t care what Mullahs say about this.
Whether a person should be rejected on such issues is individual’s choice or what’s the word - preference. I was told by others to respect other’s preference. But yes, most normal people without any strong beliefs or requirements are normal enough to use their own judgement and make a reasonable choice - I hate giving prescriptive advice.
Unless, I’m madly and hopelessly in love with someone or just desperate to settle down coz my age is going through the roof, I would not marry an ex alcoholic, ex gambler, smuggler, defaulter etc. Sorry, past does matter. How about instead of passing judgements and preaching sickly wishy washy pseudo-religious fluff, people respect other’s ultimate preference and decisions? Respect others and just be honest with them when they ask you something - simple as that.
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A bad student always comes up with excuses. Those who have successfully navigated their life through desires and lust might like to find a similar partner, but ofcourse, those who have not will find a way to look down upon them and term it insecurity.
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Have I just been away from Life1 for too long or has it been a while since we’ve had a thread like this? 
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I should leave now. AP must be waiting for me in PA. Need to check how many Facebook profiles he had copied and pasted in the meantime.
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That’s not always true…in fact its never true. I have always seen people who dig into their spouse’s past end up with more issues than they started out with.
Of course its insecurity that leads to asking and probing of someone else’s past. What does it matter if they are qualified, presentable, come from a good family and seem to fit your criteria? Most of the time, people don’t get honest answers anyway…so why ask? Who in their right mind will say “yeah…i was an ex womanizer”?
You’re not arguing with me - you’re arguing with something that is discouraged in Islam.
People are only Muslims until they find something they disagree with - then they’re just people.
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I am not arguing about religion, or I would have brought up some religious qoutes. A person who is secure, upright and has integrity will not try to dodge others. Its the insecure one who’ll try to hide away.
My opinion is that if someone values piousness and has herself/himself been modest and expects his spouse to be the same, then its fine for him/her to seek one like that.