Petraeus warns of deteriorating US-Pakistan relations

… they need us so badly at every step!! widout Pakistan they can bearly function in this region …
someone is feeling a little jealous and insecure lately, … arent they just tired of making these shallow statements .. and look wht he says in the end .. they are now pretending to recognize our sacrifices now?? oh they do realize now?? … how many Pakistanis were killed cuz of their mess … they are just buttering us up… ever since, the Iran/China talks!
same old nonsense … Pakistan needs to do more … more effort blah blah nonsense … can someone ask this guy … wht hav they achieved in the last 11 years?? is there stability in afghanistan?? are there no militants in afghanistan??? the answer is clearly no … wht a big blunder this entire "war on terror"is … its more like “war of terror” …

everything would remain the same … things would only start to get better once they leave this region! but hey i forgot … before leaving they are trying their last trick .. they are pushing afghans to start a war with Pakistan … larte reho … marte reho!!

and the award to the biggest corrupt and hypocrite country goes to … US!

PARIS: US General David Petraeus admitted Wednesday there was no option but to work on troubled relations with Pakistan, days after standing down from his job at the helm of coalition forces in Afghanistan.
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Speaking in Paris on his way to his new job as CIA chief, the most celebrated military leader of his generation said Afghanistan’s neighbour wanted to eliminate Al-Qaeda and Taliban militants but was struggling.
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“They’ll be the first to say that there are limits to how much they can do,”
said the man who headed the United States’ longest-running war for the last year, with less territory controlled by militants today but civilian deaths up.

“They have a lot of short sticks in hornets nests right now and they have to consolidate some of those gains.”
Petraeus said Pakistani anti-militant operations have been impressive but they **“clearly need further effort to deal with some of the other elements, like the Qaeda network in North Waziristan and the Taliban in Balochistan”.
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**“This relationship is in a difficult stage,” **Petraeus said, blaming WikiLeaks revelations, the arrest of CIA agent Raymond Davis as well as the killing by US forces of Al-Qaeda kingpin Osama Bin Laden in Pakistan in May.
He said it was believable that Pakistani intelligence did not know that Bin Laden was hiding out in Abbottobad, home to much of the Pakistani military establishment, when he was killed there.

“It is credible to me that they did not know. We received no intelligence whatsoever to indicate that there was any awareness that he was there.” But while “we see the Bin Laden raid as an extraordinary success, intelligence together with military forces, Pakistan sees it as an affront to their national sovereignty, we’ve got to work our way through this”.

“We know what happens when we walk away from Pakistan and Afghanistan, we’ve literally seen the movie before, it’s called ‘Charlie Wilson’s War’ (about covert US support for anti-Soviet Afghan fighters) and indeed that is not in my view a good option.

**“However difficult the relationship may be it’s one we need to continue to work, it’s one where we need to recognise what our Pakistani partners have done, they’ve sacrificed several thousand soldiers and police and their civilians have suffered substantial levels of violence.”

**Petraeus oversaw a surge of tens of thousands of troops into Afghanistan in a last-ditch bid to reverse a nearly 10-year Taliban insurgency and repeat the success of a similar surge he masterminded in Iraq.

But with Taliban leaders not currently wanting to join the political process in Afghanistan, Petraeus said US and Afghan authorities should work on what he said was militants’ creeping dissatisfaction with their commanders.

http://www.dawn.com/2011/07/20/petraeus-warns-of-deteriorating-us-pakistan-relations.html

Re: Petraeus warns of deteriorating US-Pakistan relations

The Americans dont really need Pakistan. They would find ways of splitting the country very easily and sadly if Pakistan continues to play double games then there will be a chance of the country falling apart.

Less lives woul be lost if elements within the army/intelligence did not play double games.

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Every country has it's self interest as paramount.

Pakistan got into bed with the USA soon after independence, to get weapons, tanks, planes, to fight - communism (secretly to fight India).

USA wanted to build up NATO /CENTO to contain Russia & China - and used Pakistan.

Why grumble now - this has been Pakistan's policy from the start. (Jis thali se khatey ho, usee pey thookte ho?)

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wow! comming from an Indian its like pot calling kettle black. BTW your new master in A-stan is on the run like the old one.

May you live in interesting times, goes an old Chinese curse. These are, certainly, interesting times.

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Auss and Himalaya ... yes Pakistan is responsible for everything!! Pakistan is playing double games .... Pakistan is the sole reason behind this mess ... and yes we should now suffer for the rest for our lives!! .. its all our fault!! ... hogeya lecture pura???

now keep your two cents to yourself, cuz we really dont need your biased opinion!

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I love it when Indians post. We have been close to falling apart for the past 25 years. This failed state issue comes up every 3 or 4 years and has been around since the late 1980s. Yet we still stand. Odd eh?

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and Pakistan will always remain ... inshaAllah!
we have been through alot, yet we survived!! we are truly the survivors ... Pakistanis are born with survivors instinct! ...

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You can always survive but can not do any progress. Extremism is at the peak in pakistan. Tell me any country where Killer of a governer is showered with rose petals and that too my advocates.if someone jahil does that its quiet understandable but when educated people of a country do such acts then not even god can save it.

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^chintu there are always extremists in every country, i might remind you that many people in India hail killer of Gandhi. Many Israeli showered petals on killer of their president.

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... there is always a dawn after dark!! we will rise again, just like we always do .. and will progress to .. and the world will witness that!!! ... you dont need to waste your energy!! keep your concerns to yourself!! ...

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this thread is abt Pakistan .. yet every non Pakistani loves to add their two cents!!

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As a friend I will show my concerns and as a enemy I will be happy that pakistan is in such a mess. Take me whatever way you want.

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I dont keep cents...only dollar bills!!

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Any reason why bhartis are barking? Instead of showing your concern for Pakistan worry about your poverty which is worse then Africa's and your rising Maoists who are fighting for their freedom.

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Kum as kum apna peeshab ya gai ka peeshab toh nahi peetay tumhari tarah.

Re: Petraeus warns of deteriorating US-Pakistan relations

They also bathe in it.

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guys plz... lets stay civilized! I dont wanna make this thread into Pak/indo war ... if they are saying something .. let them!! it shouldnt make a difference to us!! we know wht we are!! and plus its really not their mistake!! if on their tv channels 24/7 ... they would show Pakistan like a psycho country where every Pakistani is a extremist!! thn its really not their fault!! ... its the mindset .. busy in promoting more hatred!!

so just ignore!! :)

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Hey I am not making it up. I will not say anything if I do not have a proof about it.
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Re: Petraeus warns of deteriorating US-Pakistan relations

mirch lag gayi?

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you worry about yourself. Soon you will be converted by force in pakistan:)