Re: People love sleeping in Pakistan and hate working...
I think this is a thread in itself so better not to discuss it. But they tests werent using plutonium from what I read.
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*Silly point 4 *
Kids go to school and always want the fast way (shortcut) on making or getting money in any way possible. They'll rob there own family members let alone a stranger which is pretty common all over Pakistan.
Oh right, kids go to school and all of them want the fast way of making money, yet refuse to get jobs - you make so much sense. *You must live in a strange place in Pakistan *
*the rest just gets even sillier..waste of time. *
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And the problem with Pakistan is people like you, who think they are better than the rest when in reality they really aren't. I've met countless Pakistanis, in person, who go on to criticize the short-comings of Pakistan as a nation, as if they are really enlightened or something. But after a while, you realize that those people are in fact worse and have no ethical or moral values what so ever. I've been burned enough times by such people to realize that anyone who goes on about "Pakistanis are so lazy, corrupt blah blah blah" is not to be trusted. I usually hate to generalize but since it seems to be the new flavour of the month, why not?
And as a self-respecting person, I think I have a right to tell you that no, I don't go on bashing Pakistan at every oppurtunity I get and no, I don't steal or do any of the dodgy things that people like you attribute Pakistanis with. Heck, I'm not even Pakistani yet I know better than to bash the country that I was born in just to look down upon its citizens and raise my self-esteem that way.
if u had read what i posted, i said its people from all social classes who are involved in corruption and whoever they maybe it doesnt hide the fact that is just wrong. and who cares about south america we're talking about pakistan. For all u ppl who r gonna say :so what have u done for pak and bla blah i can tell u that i dont lie, cheat or steal unlike 90% of the population. i
I never once said that im better than everyone else, and if u r stupid enuf to believe that anyone who critisizes pakistan is a part of the problem then u need to have ur head examined. if we know what our problems are as a nation, only then can we work to remove them and move forward, but if fools like u ppl want to be happy with things the way they are then sure, we can ignore everything, heck pakistan is a G8 member is it not?
and im not bashing pakistan why the **** is it that every time some1 points out something wrong with pakistan ppl start calling him a traitor?? and i wont hesistate to bash any country whether i was born there or not, i will call it as i see it. no exceptions for anything or anyone
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and im not bashing pakistan why the **** is it that every time some1 points out something wrong with pakistan ppl start calling him a traitor?? and i wont hesistate to bash any country whether i was born there or not, i will call it as i see it. no exceptions for anything or anyone
I'd like to see you live without stealing if you were living in a slum of Karachi. I've seen how poor those people are. They have no way to make money, what so ever. Who cares about South America? Maybe because they are humans as well, just like Pakistanis. The poor people of Pakistan (I mean the ones who live in absolute slums) don't have some kind of superhuman ability to survive without any money. Have you ever wondered why the ghettos and favelas around the world are filled with crime? Thats because they need to survive somehow. The solution isn't to criticize them for stealing and saying "Wow...those *******s should be kicked out of Pakistan since they have no values what so ever"
And there we go again "I don't lie, cheat or steal like 90% of Pakistan". I've heard that a million times before and believe me, I've fallen for that often enough to know better than to not accept it as a truth. Yes, many Pakistanis lack moral and ethical values. Yes, many Pakistanis could use a shot in the arm to change their way of thinking. But going on the internet and dissing them by saying "OMG....Pakistani people are so lazy and they sleep all the time and they don't do any work" is completely outrageous and baseless. If you agree with such stupidity than yes, you are part of the problem. Anyone who realizes what the problem is yet uses it as a platform to further bash the country is definitely the part of the problem. Such people don't want to help the country. They just want to look down upon the rest of Pakistnis and think that they are above all of those common "lieing, cheating and stealing scum" of the country.
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You know you’re the type of guy who would encourage that. All the points you’ve made so far make no sense cause you support the wrong doers. Ohhh look at those people they’re so poor…don’t blame them if they happen to loot you it’s cause they have no choice. Everyone HAS a choice - especially a muslim.
Hopefully you don’t end up mugging me one day.
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So true Afridi! If it is so easy overthere to make money why dont these people go back there and try it rather than being hated and looked down upon by the whities.
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^^ It's tougher to go from here and try to make a living there cause people here are used to honest work. Not fraud and scams of all sorts. So yea, you win.
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Just mind ur own business ..... u don t need to worry abt others....
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What exactly are you doing then by posting that comment? ^^
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Hopefully you don't end up mugging me one day.
If encouraging stealing from the more fortunate means them staying alive, than you're damn right I encourage that. They are victims of corruption at the government level. Maybe you don't feel sympathy for the poor of the country but i do. You're one of those people who blame poor people for being poor. Maybe in your fantasy world teenagers can find jobs though none are available and poor people can survive eventhough they have no money but this isn't how it happens in reality. The problems that Pakistan faces are present in EVERY DEVELOPING COUNTRY. In fact Pakistan is lucky in the regard that we don't have a serious problem of prostitution, drug abuse, alcoholism...just some of the problems that Pakistan's neighbour India faces, among many other countries.
That last sentence of your post sums up your argument pretty well. "Hopefully you don't mug me one day". All you care about is yourself. Even though I never encouraged criminal activities in ANY OF MY PREVIOUS POSTS, what I was doing is pointing out the fact that Pakistanis aren't some sort of degenerates who are the only people in the entire world involved in commiting criminal activities. If you can somehow prove to me that other developing countries in the world don't have to face similar problems as Pakistan does that I will agree that you're right. Other wise, your argument is outrageous and completely baseless.
And oh by the way, you're the one who makes absoltuely no sense. Your stupid points have been refuted by not only me but others as well and you seem to have no counter argument for that.
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if u had read what i posted, i said its people from all social classes who are involved in corruption and whoever they maybe it doesnt hide the fact that is just wrong. and who cares about south america we're talking about pakistan
Silly really probably from some overweight pus ridden student who's never seen sunlight, let alone Pakistan, solaced only by the confines of his anal cavity. How is it possible for a poor person in Pakistan from low social class to be corrupt if they live below the poverty line? To be corrupt you need to have some money in the first place, and if 25% are below the poverty line, your figure of 90% corrupt Pakistanis is a mathematical IMPOSSIBILITY.
Now that it's been established that the higher social classes COULD be corrupt, these account for a small amount of the population. Note, the introduction of NAB into Pakistani Law since 2002 has convicted a number of high profile corruption cases. This is a start.
Then there's the middle class which is now emerging. Why do you consider all middle class Pakistanis to be corrrupt and white light to shine out of your moon-sized ass? There are some corrupt middle classes in Pakistan, and some that are not, have no need to be, or dont have the means to be.
Noone said Pakistan is corruption free. The points being made are that 1) Pakistanis are not 90% corrupt 2) Pakistan has not had the resources to enforce laws properly, perhaps until recently. An improving situation has emerged, though there is more to be done, like any developing country that is finding its feet after a long period of subjugation.
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For all u ppl who r gonna say :so what have u done for pak and bla blah i can tell u that i dont lie, cheat or steal unlike 90% of the population.
I never once said that im better than everyone else
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Even someone as stupid as yourself must be able to see the sharp contradiction in that. "You're not saying you are better than anyone else, but you dont lie, cheat or steal unlike 90% of the population" - is this not a clear statement that you are morally superior to other people. Now let's say I take away all your cakes and chocolates that you use to power your brain cell and maintain your fat cushions, you want some food. In order to get your cakes you need to bend a house rule and launder the spare refrigerator which is strictly off purpose. Being the fat kid you are, you cannot resist as the stomach ache gets too much for you. This is human nature, even you must be able to see this. Now say a guard is posted by the refrigerator so you cannot get your fat fingers in there. Now there's no cake stealing. Perhaps you might see the point.
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, and if u r stupid enuf to believe that anyone who critisizes pakistan is a part of the problem then u need to have ur head examined. if we know what our problems are as a nation, only then can we work to remove them and move forward, but if fools like u ppl want to be happy with things the way they are then sure, we can ignore everything, heck pakistan is a G8 member is it not?
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You dont seem to realize your generalizations are incorrect. You are comparing developed countries to developing countries and this is an inappropriate comparison.You can make this comparison when Pakistan is a developed country with enforced laws only.
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Im not going to bother trading insults with a retard like you who thinks they’re ‘standing up’ for their country. Let me just point out, that you dont need to be a rich man to be corrupt, the definition of corruption is :
**lack of integrity or honesty (especially susceptibility to bribery); use of a position of trust for dishonest gain. **
http://dictionary.reference.com/search?q=corruption
now explain to my pus ridden face how money is need in order to be corrupt??
I wont say anything further, but I would just like to know how you would feel when
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the hard-earned money which u invested in a business deal turns out to be a fraud and the other person just vanishes with it
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you work day and night to get a degree so that you can get a decent job only to find that some incompetent person gets the job u applied for because he happened to be related to someone influential and u end up unemployed
-you study your ass off for an exam to barely pass whereas others were busy partying and pass the same exam with flying colors because they bribed the examiners and got the answers beforeahand
-you drive out your brand new car out of the showroom only to be rid of it at gunpoint a few miles down the road
-you buy bottled drinking water believing that it would be safer to drink only to find that the water in it is just ordinary tap water with a label on it
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someone you love dies because they were sold fake medicines by a pharmacist who knew very well that they were dangerous to use but couldnt resist making more money.
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the people who work for u and whom u treat like a member of ur own household, run away with ur money and steal valuables from ur house
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you pay tens of thousands of rupees to private schools for ur children to go to, but find out that the teachers cant be bothered to teach anything or show up in class because they are more interested in making extra money from giving private tutions ( despite the fact that they are earning a respectable salary)
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the business proposal that u had been working on for days to give to ur boss is rejected on the grounds that there is no opportunity for him to take a cut-back in it
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you take ur computer for repairs to a shop only to find that the original parts have been stolen and replaced with fake chinese ones
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you have booked a flight for an urgent meeting and ur seat is taken because some VIP cudnt find a seat and he had to take urs
-your mother or sister is robbed at gunpoint for her jewellery in broad daylight with a policeman looking on in the background
- you get hepititus B because the restaraunt which u ate in cudnt be bothered to boil the water they used.
i am in no way saying that these things dont happen elsewhere in the world and only in pakistan. they happen to be on a larger scale in pakistan.
let me remind u that these are all incidents that happen to ordinary ppl from all social classes not just the slums which u talk about, and these are done by people who make ample money and know very well what the consequences of their actions will be.
Let me say once again that these problems EXIST and they need to be RECOGNISED before anything can be done to solve them, ppl like u who deny their existence are pakistans worst enemy.
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If its any consolation - things are exactly same in India.
Middle class & rich kids are spoilt and the naukers do everything. Naukers are spoken to rudely. If I spoke well with them or tried to teach them something - I was told I was spoiling them!! If I tried to get my own water, I was told " what are they for??
Corruption is everywhere - the government office is the worst!! They start late, their rude, they go for long lunchs and leave early. Anything which is owned by the Government - banks, insurance companies, postal service, airlines, are the worst!! They think they are doing you a favour.
Most kids(middle & rich) think its below their dignity to work in part time jobs in Pizza hut etc. Even to take up a job - has to be an Officer, Doctor, Engineer - too much emphasis on this, no wonder they will sit idle doing nothing if they don't get these jobs.
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what ever you have said is so true.. coz ive seen naukars do everything for my cousins..when i go to pakiland and since we go from here canada/usa and other countires and were use to doing our things ourselves .. so if we get water as u said dey say what are the naukars for?.. pakistani rich/middle kids r spoiled and the parents/kids busy wid parties, weddings, and alot more
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Thanks for making valid points. Should I make fun of you and point out that all your comments are silly and that you simply hate Pakistan with a passion?
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No, you should instead counter the arguments made by me and others. I’ve already refuted ALL OF YOUR RIDICULOUS POSTS IN DETAIL and you seem to be pretty good at picking and choosing one line out of 80, completely out of context and comment on them as if you’re pointing out a flaw in my logic.
Prove to me that your original post is true and don’t try to deviate from that. Here it is just for your convenience:
**No wonder everything is a slump there. Teens here start working at age 16 - just to bring in experience even if it’s not for the money…people there use the school excuse or just chill at home sleepin all day.
We need to help them in this issue cause it’s our way out of a future that has no future.**
I’ve proved the statement above to be baseless and if you could somehow prove that my argument is wrong, don’t even bother posting at all. Thank you!
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You havn't proven anything at all. The fact still remains - PEOPLE NEED TO STOP SLEEPING ALL DAY LONG and start doing something.
STOP SLEEPING and START WORKING. What don't you get about that?
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STOP SLEEPING and START WORKING. What don't you get about that?
What don't I get about that? The fact that this is your opinion based on no grasp with reality what so ever?
Just because you have lazy relatives back in Pakistan doesn't mean they represent the entire country. I already told you why kids can't jobs in Pakistan. So really, your original point is down the way of my lunch.
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it's true to some extent...everytime i talk to my cousins in Pakistan. they are complaining about studies but all they really do is complain and sit around...
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Au Contraire, ma queer amie. Rather than standing up for a country, I like to see all countries treated with parity and equity, not one country given an unfair commentary
Right..I’l explain this Kindergarden style just for you. A person has no money, no food. He has no job, he has nobody that has put his trust in him to give him a job. This represents 25% or some 40 million people in Pakistan. This is even by the very own definition you quoted. Going up the scale, you have people who have some money, work poorly paid jobs, who can just about get enough food. They have manual jobs (agriculture was quite common for a while), so what position f trust do these people have? None whatsoever, and these were the major part of the workforce till recently. These people would represent the majority of Pakistanis who were in fact below the poverty line (till recently was about 33%) as well as those doing manual jobs. The lucky few were those who had better paying jobs, but were the minority in the country. These people had positions of power, and a sad fact is that in a country that was so poor as Pakistan, there simply were not the resources to provide adequate accountability and enforcement of laws, until recently. The situation is not solved as yet, but it’s getting better, much better, but part of the problem is spastics like yourself not acknowledging this improvement in Pakistan that can galvanize support in the right direction as you stuff your overly bloated face with chocolate cakes.