Peace overture: PTI caravan for Waziristan

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Yes. He did achieve this feat. As Saleem Safi was saying, he succeeded in proving why drone attacks are necessary. Imran showed to the world that Pakistan has no control even in Waziristan. And this is the argument America uses to justify its strikes there.
It is this lack of government control which made FATA the militant hub and training center for militants from all over the world.

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Oh I see, so it's basically Imran behind the drones attack in Waziristan. Good that America and Salim Safi showed us the truth!

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It has also shown that there is no military solution to the problem as well. The "military" had claimed three years back that they have cleared the area (SWA) of militants and now building a model town in Kotkai. If they still cant assure security there, we can well imagine what the situation would be in the other agencies.

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Waziristan to Waziristan hota hay Shamali ho ya janobi
وزیرستان تو وزیرستان ہوتا ہے شمالی ہو یا جنوبی
Maheena to Maheena hota hay September ho ya October
مہینہ تو مہینہ ہوتا ہے ستمبر ہو یا اکتوبر
March to march hota hay Aik hazar ka ho ya Aik Lakh ka
مارچ تو مارچ ہوتا ہے ایک ہزار کا ہو یا ایک لاکھ کا
But these 1000 people returned back from Tank according to the plan .Tank is the most peaceful district of the area .
Well played .

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So when your leader is going to Tank — "the most peaceful district of the area?"

Even if they are 100 men out there, they were more brave and practical than you and me as they left their homes and their families to go to the place where it all happens that we bemoan from the coziness of our bedrooms with a cup of coffee in one hand and remote control of TV showing T20 final in the other hand while airconditioner's remote control laying nearby.

There has to be a point when vice and virtue should not mix.

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What about whom ,who announced about more than 100,000 people .
Drivers , musicians , servants , about a hundred journalists were included in this 1000 .

Look at them
**Change through bullet proof land cruisers purchased from Zakat and chanda money .**http://dawn.com/2012/10/07/peace-rally-was-drama-staged-by-pti-khawaja-asif/

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Where are the leaders who are riding bullet proof cars with looted money, cheated money, cheated "will" (wasiyat), have they visited Waziristan?

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Read it again.

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PTI peace march: Fears dissipate as rally gathers momentum

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Yes you are right .
Where are the leaders who are riding bullet proof cars with looted money, cheated money,
No one of them including Imran visited Waziristan .
People knew this much before so they were saying like this .

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atleast they started, they are moving, what about jiyalas? The real dacoo, cheaters, fakers are sitting in government, which of the biggest dacoos (Zardari, Gillani, Nawaz) has visited? oh wait, why will they protest, they have to make money from the drones.

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Aap hi apni adaaoN pe zara ghaor kijeeye
hum kuch arz kareiN ge to shikayat ho gi

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One went shopping with that money…

Zardari goes shopping | DAWN.COM

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is there a single journalist who is pak & saaf in PTIs simpletons ?

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PTIans, brothers, its not really your moral and ethical responsibility to religiously defend every single thing done by Imran and party. Lets not be like Jialaas and A-Z Leagers and MQMers. For me, this whole wazeeristan rally thing has raised more question about imran and PTI rather than improving PTIs reputation in my view.

Outright rejecting every single concern raised by others is no smart thing to do... many of the questions people raise are very valid and need proper response, rather than just saying "oh this is media trying to defame imran" and "oh ganja shareef bought the media and now doing propaganda".

I believe Imran had good intention, but this has been executed poorly, blunder after blunder. PTI needs to get serious about it, episodes like this march and departure of sheerin mazari are not good signs.

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PTI peace march: Western voices add swagger to rally – The Express Tribune

PTI peace march: Western voices add swagger to rally

Lauren Booth, sister of Blair’s wife, one of many foreign activists that came with PTI’s Peace March. PHOTO: REUTERS/FILE

TANK:
Few sights would be more peculiar than seeing former British premier Tony Blair’s sister-in-law walking in main Tank Bazaar.

Lauren Booth, the sister of Blair’s wife, Cherie Blair, was one of the many foreign activists that came along with the PTI’s Peace March.

With the convoy stuck in a jam in Tank, Booth, who recently converted to Islam, decided to take a stroll.

Having spotted her, The Express Tribune and TV One caught up with her for a chat – albeit a brief and frenzied one.

“[The people] are saying thank you, thank you for remembering Waziristan,” said Booth, wrapped in a white dupatta.

Will this march achieve the goal of stopping drone attacks, asked journalists.

“What is the option? Do nothing, sit at home and let people die,” responded an irked Booth.

“When we ask negative questions we have to consider the options. The option is: We oppose oppression because we are Muslim,” she said, much to the delight of a small crowd that had gathered around, which obviously found a Western woman making such a statement quite novel.

But what about the genuine terrorists that may be in these areas?

“I can’t believe that when thousands of people are dying, you are taking the American line,” she snapped. “It’s offensive.”

“I’m here for the people who are Muslim. We don’t want anyone to die, but we are here to protest drone attacks, not Pakistanis,” she said, storming off.

Special jalsa

Booth was not the only novel participant in the rally.

The PTI jalsa in Tank was made special not only because of its location, but because it was addressed by an American, in English. And got cheers.

The head of American non-profit organisation Reprieve, Clive Stafford Smith, said he was an American who did not support drone strikes.

He said he brought a message from his mother who had suffered at the hands of Hitler – and that she too felt the pain of drone victims and their families.

US peace delegation

The PTI rally was also attended by Joe Lombardo, coordinator of the US peace delegation and co-chair United National Antiwar Coalition (UNAC).

Speaking to The Express Tribune in Islamabad before the march, Lombardo said he wants the US government, his people and the rest of the world to realise that drone strikes are counterproductive.

The UNAC co-chairman believed that the US government was well aware that their (military) campaigns were creating more terrorists.

“In order to justify something called war on terror they need terrorists. It allows the US to keep the war long,” Lombardo said.

Commenting on embarking on a journey to Waziristan, Lombardo said: “Yes I am a little afraid (going to Waziristan). But then there are lots of dangerous places even in New York and other parts of the world.”

Lombardo said his delegation did not come to support Imran Khan or his party.

“We are not endorsing his (political) campaign. We will love if all parties join us,” he said.

Speaking on the war in Afghanistan, Lambardo pressed for a dialogue with the Taliban.

The UNAC chairman added that there is no shame if the US quits Afghanistan today.

“The right-wing in US might feel ashamed but I do not because I think US was on the wrong side in this war,” he added.

(With additional reporting by Umer Nangiana in Islamabad)

Published in The Express Tribune, October 8th, 2012.

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Zardari should be ashamed of himself....what has he done regarding drone attacks except giving a speech in UN?

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Imran Khan

Imran Khan’s Tank

Let’s get some things straight.

Will Imran Khan peace march to South Waziristan, which ended in Tank, succeed in stopping drone attacks? No.

Will the march bring immense relief to the victims of drone attacks and lead to a deluge of international support for them? No.

Will Khan now be able to change the political dynamics of this region and force other parties to ape him? No.

Will the march change the contours of the national and international debate on drones? No.

Is then PTI’s peace march nothing more than a political stunt? No.

The much-publicized rally, which was originally meant to culminate in North Waziristan, ultimately did so in Tank. Amid rousing sloganeering and cheering, Imran Khan delivered his victory speech, thanked his supporters (and the police) and headed back. Everyone heaved a sigh of relief that no untoward incident took place. It’s very rare in Pakistan for a crowd of thousands to have a face-off with law enforcers and avoid a clash. A good precedent was set.

The inevitable question however is: what did Imran Khan achieve?

Achievement is normally weighed against targets and objectives. Khan’s stated objective was to highlight the plight of drone victims and get the world to focus on the havoc that drones are wreaking on innocent men, women and children in North and South Waziristan.

Measured against this specific objective, what he was able to achieve was modest. Sure, the media coverage of the event brought the issue of drones to the fore, but this coverage was clearly not a game-changer in any way. The event dominated local airtime over the weekend, and also got covered in foreign newspapers and TV, but let’s be honest, it did not really have a mega-impact that would affect hard-nosed policymaking. And plus the focus of the coverage was less the victims of drones and more the trials and tribulations of the journey, the obstacle-crossings and the suspense of whether Khan would reach Kotkai or not.

The media, both local and foreign, and the international participants were also not able to meet drone victims since they were not allowed access to South Waziristan. So if anyone was expecting the victims’ faces and the stories to be splashed across the world media, that did not happen. The victims remains blanketed in cruel anonymity despite Khan’s march.

The march then achieved nothing concrete. Perhaps it was not meant to, since marches usually don’t lead to policymaking. The government, and the army, will not face increased pressure from the public, and the public is not much the wiser about the issue in any substantive way since Khan left Islamabad for the journey.

So what did the journey then actually achieve?

Quite a bit, actually.

For starters, it proved that Khan’s opponents never really had a convincing argument against this initiative and this reflected their ill-formed ideas on reacting to a not-so-complex political manoeuvre. The rally was a bold political move that could not be countered with equally bold arguments.

More importantly however, was the fact that an emerging national party like PTI was successful in generating national-level political activity all the way from Mianwali to Tank and a bit beyond. Thousands thronged the roads, cheered the cavalcade, joined it from adjoining areas, honked, cheered, sloganeered, waved flags, removed barricades and generally pumped some serious physical and political adrenalin that traversed through cameras and beamed across the nation. This wasn’t your typical political stuff – jalsas, corner meetings and press conferences – no this was heart-pumping, in-your-face, made-for-TV kind of activity that generates hype and discussion for days and weeks.

In other words, it was brilliant politics.

Some PTI purists may be horrified. How can you reduce something as noble as an anti-drones exercise to petty politicking, they may protest. But they miss the point that this is the kind of politics that strengthens democracy. Such politics is inclusive, not exclusionary. The success of Imran Khan is that he penetrated these areas with the point of his political spear, bringing in excitement, enthusiasm, vigour – and oh yes, the cameras – to shake up things and remind Pakistanis in big metros that this region needs national focus. Yes focus, not just for drones, but for improving the lives of the people who live here.

Khan did not say all this, but he did not need to. Politicians from here guard this turf of theirs jealously. The traditionalists among them have their constituencies where the gravy train flows thick and fast. An absence of constant media attention here ensures the deficiencies remain un-highlighted, unlike what happens in say Karachi or Lahore or Islamabad.

For one weekend however, these towns were the focus of national attention. And by bringing this attention here, Imran Khan will reap political dividends. Those thousands of youngsters we saw on the screens running alongside the cavalcade and removing barbed wires and parked containers, all these enthusiastic youngsters may not be PTI voters but they surely saw one politician come here with thousands in tow to speak to them. This in itself may amount to a lot.

Imran Khan is neither the first nor the last politician to engage with them. But he picked an issue which appeals to his base – and of others – and he succeeded in bringing it to their doorstep more effectively than others have. Maulana Fazlur Rehman should lose some sleep.

Drones will keep raining death as per American policy. The Pakistani government will keep on sporting an ambiguous posture as per its policy. The army will keep on engaging the Pentagon and CIA to bargain on drones as per its policy. And Imran Khan will keep blasting everyone as per his policy. Nothing really will change.

Except one thing: Political parties will now be under greater pressure to appear bold and go where they normally don’t. As an unstated objective, that’s not a bad achievement for Imran Khan.

The writer is the host of “Tonight with Fahd” on Waqt News. Email: [email protected] Twitter: @fahdhusain

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He managed this all .
Great contribution indirectly