Re: Parents of daughters: School Uniforms & Modesty
But that’s the thing, Indian girls dont wear saris. In fact, their uniforms are either skirts or shalwar Kameez also. Saris are put aside for the mature girls or the married women, which is what I meant by chador-style dupattas being enforced on these girls as young as 6. I know most these schools are in the Northern areas or rural areas because the city schools or convents usually have dress pants, skirts and in some cases shalwar kameez. I love shalwar kameez and never go anywhere w/out my dupatta, I just dont see why little girls have to take on womanly responsibilities and wear chadors IN SCHOOL, and they’re as young 6. I find it disturbing.
Also, shorts are worn as well, the ones I have seen were usually slightly above the knee and in the more metropolitan areas but still, they are worn.
Um, who is talking about brands and what is in and out? I think uniforms are great and help kids be “one” without parents having to worry about being able to afford expensive/brand name clothing. I just have a problem with the overtly woman-fying the little girls. Why cant they wear dresses/trousers/shalawar kameez without having to cover their heads in oversized chadors? Why cant they just run around and be kids and not have to worry about adjusting their chadors and having the freedom to not think about “male nazars” and all that? Now I know schools in Pakistan do not have a head-covering policy except the Islamic ones and these restrictions are usually in the rural/Northern schools BUT still.
Again, the issue is NOT with shalwar kameez. It’s with the undeclared rule that even little girls have to wear chadors. That is the look I am against. They can wear chadors or cover their heads when they hit puberty if that is what they decide, why do they have to worry about such things at such a young age? Again, this is NOT in all schools. Also, I wear shalwar kameez all the time, in fact that is what I wear mostly at home. I have no problem with shalwar kameez, it’s the thought that these girls dont get to be girls.
Re: Parents of daughters: School Uniforms & Modesty
Yes, I am fine with girls wearing knee-lenth skirts to school and they have socks which cover most of the legs anyway. Second, swim suits (not the ones with undies, but with shorts) are fine. It’s for a sport, I dont see what the issue is. The girls are on the Pakistani swim teams wear swim suits (one pieces) and these girls are not from elite families, just regular everyday-Pakistani families and they’ve made sense of the fact that it’s a sport and thats it.
Like someone said, pedos dont care how children are dressed. Second, this isn’t to look fashionable.
Did anyone bother reading what I said? It has nothing to do with shalwar kameez. And personally, I think you’re taking it too seriously because ypu’ve taken on the burden of being modern and still Islamic. Just be yourself, who cares what the people in pakistan want to do or not do? When I go back home, I’ve talked with a few of my cousin’s burger bachi friends and yes, they only talk in English even if I reply back in Urdu. Makes me laugh and possibly cringe but I’m not gonna be up in arms because they (they being a selective group of youth) choose to be like that.
Re: Parents of daughters: School Uniforms & Modesty
I remember using an app and it was crap. I don’t think there is one for windows phone, so I must have used it for the iphone which didn’t work as well since I couldn’t see any thread in new subforums etc.
As for swimming, it makes me remember of some burka women who were floating in the pool as they didn’t want to take off their burqas yet wanted to swim as well! One doesn’t have to be in a string bikini, but you have to realize you will expose skin by swimming (nature of the activity).
Re: Parents of daughters: School Uniforms & Modesty
exactly. My parents decided to have us stop wearing shorts/skirts/tanks after 5-6 because they wanted modest dress code to be “ingrained” by the time we got older.
Re: Parents of daughters: School Uniforms & Modesty
But still, why cant they be schooled on confidence rather than treated like women who need to do purda and be covered to such degrees? Of course not even the rural schools have these kinds of enforcements and often the chador comes from the parents, but still. I find it sad.
This, IMO, is perfect:
Now although this is rare and not in every Pakistani/Indian school but just a tiny bit scary, I almost confused it for…Afghanistan but schools in Northern Pakistan or in India close to the Himalayas tend to have uniforms like this or in some cases chadors:
Re: Parents of daughters: School Uniforms & Modesty
There is nothing wrong with those values. This “fear of the chador” which initiates such threads is probably absolutely absent in these young girls whose uniform is inclusive of a chador. For them, it is just headgear. And it does not take away from childhood.
What it DOES do, is ingrain proper dressing sense in them from the beginning. It removes the “fear” of the hijaab. I’d happily send my daughter to such a school.
I think uniforms are great and help kids be “one” without parents having to worry about being able to afford expensive/brand name clothing. I just have a problem with the overtly woman-fying the little girls. Why cant they wear dresses/trousers/shalawar kameez without having to cover their heads in oversized chadors? Why cant they just run around and be kids and not have to worry about adjusting their chadors and having the freedom to not think about “male nazars” and all that? Now I know schools in Pakistan do not have a head-covering policy except the Islamic ones and these restrictions are usually in the rural/Northern schools BUT still.
One doesn’t have to be in a string bikini, but you have to realize you will expose skin by swimming (nature of the activity).
